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Old 01-18-2006, 09:50 AM
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Default alignment numbers, tell me what you think.

Front Left and Right

Camber - -1.6 and -3.2
Caster - 0.1 and 0.0
Toe - -0.01 and -0.11
SAI - 12.5 and 13.4
Included Angle - 10.9 and 10.2

Rear Left and Right

Camber - -0.3 and -0.5
Toe - 0.12 and 0.16

Anyone know why the camber is so much off from the left and right? Also, what is the SAI and Included angle? Thanks.
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Default Re: alignment numbers, tell me what you think. (rodvang)

looking at your front camber left/right something is bad.
something is bent most likely on the right side. they should be within a few points of one another.
the toe on the right is also far from spec which is bad as well. did you get into an accident mostly on the right side of the vehicle?
if nothing is damaged on the suspension could be a bent frame.

only thing that can be adjusted on our cars is the toe, you cant adjust camber or caster without a kit.

sai is steering axis inclination.

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Default Re: alignment numbers, tell me what you think. (IVI)

what part of the suspension could be damaged? I'm not sure what i should be lookin for. The guy asked if i had hit somethin or gotten into an accident also when he was doin my alignment
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Right camber is WAYYYYYY off. And toe is as well. In fact the entire right side is F'ed up. If you have coil-overs make sure all corners are the same height. Other then that your car may have been in an accident. Also how low is your car lowered. This can sometimes affect your numbers.
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on second look you rear toe is jacked bad. That's going to seriously affect your steering, handling and tire life. You want your values to be as close to the same R2L as possible.

For street and occasional track.
Front
. . . . . . . . . R ----- L
Camber: -1.00 * -1.00
Caster: 0.0 * 0.0 (not factory adjustable)
Toe: 0.0 * 0.0 (negitive toe is okay in VERY small amounts)

Rear
. . . . . . . . R -------- L
Camber: -.75 * -.75
Toe: 0.0 * 0.0
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Default Re: (badboypolar2)

car is only dropped on tein s.tech and kyb struts, front and back. roughly 1.8 drop all the way around.
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so these numbers that you posted are the after the mechanic did the alignment?

if so something is very wrong.
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was he not able to get the toe within spec?
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yes, those numbers are after the alignment. He didn't mention anything about not being able to get the toe in spec. Only mentioned that he wouldnt be able to change the camber or caster which is normal and wasnt expected. I got the lifetime alignment from Firestone so I will probably get another alignment after I find out what I need to change. Something could be bent or somethin as IVI mentioned. I think I might bring it into a shop to see if they can see what is wrong with it so I can fix it.
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im curious. does your sheet have the before spec also listed?

i want to know what the toe was before that he has it set to -.11 in the front and .16 in the rear.

only the left front looks ok.
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yea, before specs are as followed.

Front Left and Right

Camber - -1.7 and -3.1
Caster - 0.1 and 0.0
Toe - 1.13 and -.71

Rear Left and Right

Camber - -0.5 and -0.5
Toe - -0.08 and 0.18
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holy smokes that looks horrid.... I also want to know why the guy did not set it to spec. If it wasn't possible to get it into spec, I cannot believe he would not have said something. Unacceptable in my book.
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