253k new for me car AC issues
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253k new for me car AC issues
So I bought the car and needed a new motor, I took out AC system when I did that since it was empty, no pressure.
So I put the system back in and started filling it with fluid and oil. Once there is enough r134a the clutch kicks in and it starts to schreik. Really noisy and it disengages and engages and once it engages it almost stalls the engine.
Also it won't take up any more refrigerant even though it only took about 8oz if not less. And it shows the low pressure side being over pressurized.
Any thoughts? Seized compressor? Any way to diagnose symptoms before I throw parts at it.
So I put the system back in and started filling it with fluid and oil. Once there is enough r134a the clutch kicks in and it starts to schreik. Really noisy and it disengages and engages and once it engages it almost stalls the engine.
Also it won't take up any more refrigerant even though it only took about 8oz if not less. And it shows the low pressure side being over pressurized.
Any thoughts? Seized compressor? Any way to diagnose symptoms before I throw parts at it.
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Re: 253k new for me car AC issues
Cars in the category of 92-00 Civic/Del Sol have many similarities, but enough differences that car information is required. In addition, many cars in this forum have extensive mods, so this makes things even more complicated.
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An empty A/C system that you know nothing about should be flushed. In addition, prior to adding oil and refrigerant, the receiver/dryer must be replaced and the system must be placed under a deep vacuum for at least 30 minutes and leak tested. Only then should oil and refrigerant be added (specific volume and weight, respectively). See service manual.
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It should result in a functioning system, not optimal by any means.
I've done this before.
Last thing I want to do is pay a shop 150 bucks to flush and charge my system only to have an AC compressor failure or a massive leak.
I've done this before.
Last thing I want to do is pay a shop 150 bucks to flush and charge my system only to have an AC compressor failure or a massive leak.
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...prior to adding oil and refrigerant, the receiver/dryer must be replaced and the system must be placed under a deep vacuum for at least 30 minutes and leak tested. Only then should oil and refrigerant be added (specific volume and weight, respectively). See service manual.
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Im cheap--but even I let the shops worry about the a/c needs.
Then again OP is in AZ so you probably rely on A/C a tad more then I do in NY.
Then again OP is in AZ so you probably rely on A/C a tad more then I do in NY.
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Ron is right. It's tantamount that the system be pulled under a vacuum AND EVACUATED BEFORE adding refrigerant. And all of it should be done with a manifold gauge set so you can monitor both high and low side of the system to insure optimal pressures.
And for what it's worth, eg and ek civics with US-spec r134a compatible systems should take approximately 1.2 lbs of Freon. You added .5lb and the system locked up. Take the time and replace all the right components so you don't have to do it more than once.
And for what it's worth, eg and ek civics with US-spec r134a compatible systems should take approximately 1.2 lbs of Freon. You added .5lb and the system locked up. Take the time and replace all the right components so you don't have to do it more than once.
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