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Old 12-12-2011, 06:18 AM
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I have a 1997 Honda civic Ex with a bone stock D16y8. The car is getting gas, and spark. All the plugs have checked out, distributor, fuel pump, injectors, etc etc.. I have ruled out most any mechanical problems and now I am wondering if it could be a sensor?? I honestly believe it is the crank position sensor but I am not 100% and would greatly appreciate help or advice
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ALSO the car was running fine right before it cut off.. It would not start back up, however it will turnover and act like it wants to start it just won't crank
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Exactly what do you mean by "checked out"? What did you do exactly to "rule out" other issues? What color is the spark? Are you throwing any CELs?
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It was running fine, then shut off and wouldn't start? Check the timing belt before you bend some valves

People have said the rotor screw in the distributor comes loose and their car stops running, have you checked that?
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Check your battery's voltage, 12 volts with key on at least.

Check the coil.

I think a crank sensor would set off a code.
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Default Re: 1997 Honda Civic Ex NOT STARTING

Originally Posted by USDM DUH
ALSO the car was running fine right before it cut off.. It would not start back up, however it will turnover and act like it wants to start it just won't crank

Is there a kill switch in the car or an alarm? This will make it feel like it will start but will not. I would double check voltage (14v) and that its not the starter for sure.
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Default Re: 1997 Honda Civic Ex NOT STARTING

most any sensor that would cause the engine to not run would either control fuel or spark in some way. youve either missed something or tested something incorrectly(not being a smart ***).

The engine cranks over when you hit the key, but wont fire. you either dont have spark, fuel, compression, or timing. i assume you can check spark so I would do a compression test next to rule out mechanical issue again. if timing is off far enough to cause a no start you would probably have bent valve ie, no compression. make sure you have fuel pressure, and make sure your injectors have power at all times with the key on, and a ground pulse signal when the engine is cranking over.
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Exactly what do you mean by "checked out"? What did you do exactly to "rule out" other issues? What color is the spark? Are you throwing any CELs?
It is getting gas, spark plugs are new and the spark wires to BUT they have been taken out and checked twice. The spark was just a normal color spark I would guess, it was white and all 4 had spark. I have taken the VC off and timing belt and timing are still OK I hooked up the scanner yesterday and it gave me 6 codes.. p0301-p0304 which are all cylinder misfire codes and I got a p1300 which didn't have a DTC in the scanner and the last code I honestly forgot but it said Misfire on any cylinder

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It was running fine, then shut off and wouldn't start? Check the timing belt before you bend some valves

People have said the rotor screw in the distributor comes loose and their car stops running, have you checked that?
Dizzy check out, and was replaced just incase anything happens down the road

Originally Posted by motegicivic
Check your battery's voltage, 12 volts with key on at least.

Check the coil.

I think a crank sensor would set off a code.
It did throw a code but nothing about a crank sensor.. I'm not sure what it could be

Originally Posted by DCSportEJ1Civic
most any sensor that would cause the engine to not run would either control fuel or spark in some way. youve either missed something or tested something incorrectly(not being a smart ***).

The engine cranks over when you hit the key, but wont fire. you either dont have spark, fuel, compression, or timing. i assume you can check spark so I would do a compression test next to rule out mechanical issue again. if timing is off far enough to cause a no start you would probably have bent valve ie, no compression. make sure you have fuel pressure, and make sure your injectors have power at all times with the key on, and a ground pulse signal when the engine is cranking over.
The only thing that has went uncheck would be the compression. I will go check that after I reply to these messages. Like I said up top the timing belt and timing are timing gear are still in timing when set to TDC. Haven't check the injectors either but this is my buddies car and I am trying to help him out and I am at a loss right now. I will update this when I get the compression checked out
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Default Re: 1997 Honda Civic Ex NOT STARTING

replace dizzy, then check your timing
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