Shinny

Welp 4,200 later and the Civic's mine. I may make a thread to keep a tab of what all I have to do to keep a swapped older civic running everyday. Looks like it is the tune though. Got it up to 6,000rpm at as light of throttle as I could before it started to stumble. Let the engine brake back down and did WOT VTEC didn't kick in with the initial stumble, but when it caught up for a second it engaged just before it stumbled again. I would think VTEC either works or it doesn't. Will be getting with the tuning shop Monday. Just gotta do some more reading on what plug grade and heat range to run. Find the valve adjustment specs and get the missing door panels fixed. That should be it until I've ready to tackle the A/C. Only got to drive it for a minute but I absolutely love it. Can't wait to have it running 100% (for an old civic). Thanks for all the info guys hopefully I can give some helpful tips too down the road. I only have hand tools and it seems a lot of guides just suggest power tools.

CERTIFIEND

Any input on this car? 99 Civic Si, all stock.
Clean title
177k miles
AC/PS

The only real bad things I can see are the fender needs painting, driver side window off track and the windshield has a crack in it. And the body has like a pinstripe down it (not my taste) Guy wants $4500

NotARaCist

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<p>Fucked up fender, quick release on the bumper...there's some **** going on there. &nbsp;Wouldn't go over $3500, at most.</p>

B20VtecVillain

True story. I bought my EBP Si bone stock with 109k, clean title, no rust, paint/clear in great shape, no body damage etc for 5,000. If you do want to buy it, take someone with you that is very familiar with automotive like a mechanic friend or shop buddy etc, have them fully look over the car. Ask the seller to Pop the quick release and see what that does to the body lines. (Does the bumper just fall/sag when undone, etc) then make a decision. I wouldn't pay $4500 for it though, that's like what it would be worth if the body was 100% straight.

purgat0ry

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1$ says thats an EX Clone...
Look at the VIN, check the block stamp, block VIN plate and Transmission VIN. they all should match if its actually "Bone stock"
The rear bumper isn't OE, it's missing the SI badge, mud skirts, front bumper doesn't match the paint in the engine bay, front lip missing.

B20VtecVillain

Check the chassis code and see if it's EM1 which is what 99-00 USDM si chassis are. Regardless though at this point and in that condition who cares if it's an Si or an EX with a swap. Get it for like 3000-3500 or don't get it IMO

hondur

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what are po6 ecus worth?

ek9_beast

$40-$50 unchipped

hondur

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close nuf lol 2 4 75 is fair rite?

B20VtecVillain

Two for $75 if they're working stock ECUs isn't bad I would say.

ek9_beast

Yea that's $37.50 each so if they're good ecu then yea it's a fair price. A lot of people buy the p06 cheap and convert it to a p28 so they're easy to sell.

sharpie11

hey all, new here, i think this is the right place to post it.

looking at a 93 civic eg hatch, its been sitting for about 4 years on jack stands (front only) after owner damaged the driver side, broke the axle, rim, etc. hasnt ran since, wasn't properly stored either, but its been garaged. has b18 swap, coil over setup, password jdm front strut bar, and a fair amount of other suspension parts (upgraded control arms, etc) needs paint, 160,xxx, needs a tire, battery, and a couple other fixes here and there too. clean si interior, straight pipe, wont pass deq because of that, the engine was also previously turboed (is that a bad thing as a 2nd hand buyer?)

my question is how hard would it be to get it running and put back into daily driver mode and things i should expect. a few months ago we agreed to $1000 as it sits right now.

any suggestions would be great, im new to this honda thing. thanks!

pityocamptes

Thanks. I don't think it is worth fixing... at some point I'm sure something else will fail... though it does **** me off that I just replaced all the struts and springs...

If I sell to a private party and NADA is saying the car is worth $2K, what would be a fair price to someone, while letting them know that the HG has some issues? Tires are fairly new (couple years old), car has 102k miles, and I religiously have kept up the maintenance? Thanks.

ek9_beast

Keep on moving buddy. That's not something 99% of us would touch with a 10 foot pole. The car being turbo previously is certainly a horrible thing because it puts that much more stress on the motor which is the only thing worth any amount of money. BUT it hasn't run in 4yrs. That's crazy and those cylinder walls are most likely rusted. DO NOT buy

NotARaCist

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<p>Wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole. &nbsp;There's nothing wrong with a previously turbo'd car, if you know what went into it at the time, but you obviously don't. &nbsp;Only way I'd consider buying that is if I was getting it for $500, and had a primary car to drive while I was unfucking that one.</p><p>So @pityocamptes, you're going to sell the car with an easily fixed head gasket issue, to buy a car that will, for what you'll get in a similar price range, develop a rod knock in short order? &nbsp;NADA doesn't mean dick when you have a blown head gasket. &nbsp;$1000, tops.</p>

B20VtecVillain

Agree on both counts! Take this advice people and save yourself some money. To the 93 hatch potential buyer, that thing sounds like a nightmare. Buy it for what it's worth as a shell, as in, pretend you know for a fact that motor and trans are junk, and bid on the chassis itself. You didn't mention which B18 it had either. Especially if it's just a run of the mil B18a/b and LS tranny, which in perfect running condition is maybe $600-700 package, and you don't know the status, just tell yourself from the gate it's dead and don't risk your hard earned cash.
As for the person selling their old Civic cuz it needs a head gasket, is the rest of your car mechanically sound? Any other car you get for under $4-5000 is going to be questionable at best. The car you have you already know the history and said you have maintained it very well. A lot of people selling cars for a few thousand dollars do not keep up on their cars for ****. If all your car needs is a head gasket, spend $45 on an OEM Honda, grab your Haynes manual and get to work. If you haven't done it yet, this would be a good time to do your water pump and timing belt as well. At the end of the day, your not gonna get **** for your car as it sits, maybe a grand or 1200 and then what are you gonna buy? Someone else's clapped out nightmare is what. Keep it and fix it until you have the funds to buy something that is truly better

B20VtecVillain

Also stay away from
ALL of that "fix in a bottle" crap. If you have a bad head gasket, replace it! If you have a leaky radiator, replace it or get it mended! If your seals/gaskets are leaking, replace them! See where I'm going with this? All of those bottle fixes are band aid solutions that will ultimately cause more problems down the road. Nothing is free in life, and you can't get something for nothing. Only actually fixing the problem will give you a repaired vehicle. Pouring a bottle of metal flakes in to melt in all the nooks and crannies of your engine block isn't the way to fix anything.

pityocamptes

Looks like I am going to get the HG fixed, shop said they would do it for $750, which includes the head, etc.

Figure I will sell the car to a family member for school for $2200.00 and then go buy a new car. Hyundai has some very good offers currently. Getting to the stage in my life where I just have no desire to continue to work on cars that nickel and dime you to death... would rather have a 10 year warranty, than constantly fiddle with things...

I assume the $2200.00 is a fair price for family on a well maintained vehicle with 102k miles and a fixed HG? Thanks.

B20VtecVillain

Meh you get what you pay for with Hyundai man, and they're not much cheaper price wise than most other manufacturers these days either, but the quality is still far from a Honda/Toyota. My fiancé made the mistake of getting rid of her 2009 Altima and getting a 2014 Veloster turbo. After keeping it for 12k miles she sold it and bought an Accord Sport for about the same price tag and it is a MUCH better vehicle. The Hyundai seemed nice, at first, but it was very cheaply made and the lack of quality craftsmanship started showing as soon as the car began to break in. By 5,000 miles there were interior flaws, and warranty. Brake work, by 8k there was a slight bumper sag and road noise increase, by 10k the trans was feeling sloppy and the interior paneling continued to peel and otherwise show flaws, and she was just very upset by the overall experience. We have had a few customers who brought in Sonata & Genesis 2.0T cars for parts/upgrades and have said they regret buying the car they did. Strangely from what I have personally heard, the Kia branch seems to have a better "fit & finish" & attention to detail, but I still would never purchase either Korean brand. Drive ability wise, the new models aren't terrible. The Veloster I spoke of earlier was a pretty fun car; fairly peppy 200hp DI 1.6L turbo, 6 speed, good handling for a 3 door space ship on wheels. But the quality just was not there, especially considering she paid 26.5k for the damn thing!

pityocamptes

Yea, I hear you. The Elantra does not look bad, though... better than a 15-16 year old vehicle that is starting to wear out...

As far as the price, does that seem fair to help out a family/college person? Probably make $1400 on the sale, after HG repair... oh, well, guess I got my money out of it over 15 years...


Hyundai dealer called saying that with all the kick backs and rebates I could get a $21k elantra for around $13500...

WreckedTeggie

EDIT. it's a 98....I have the opportunity to buy a Civic DX auto . It runs, but "needs repairs" body is in decent shape as are wheels.. should I jump on it?

eghatch9295

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nope. send me the seller's contact info

NotARaCist

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<p>My thoughts are that you are a lazy, inconsiderate ****, who doesn't know how to read before diving straight for the ******* &quot;create new thread&quot; button. &nbsp;Unfuck yourself.</p><p>https://honda-tech.com/honda-civic-d...-cost-3215879/</p>

silum2k6

Look guy, I'm well aware of what the cars are...I was however, asking for opinions on this specific car.. glad to see the honda scene hasn't changed being full of immaturity.

I'm not asking for value...or what you think it's worth...just, is it something to buy? Cost isn't the issue...but looking at what it is, mechanically (photo of engine included and specified no AC) what would someone (not yours) elses opinion be?

eghatch9295

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question is what they stole, and what the stolen parts were replaced with. OEM? aftermarket body parts? shitty paint job (like maaco, etc)? 3750 is about the cl price of an average SI in our area, but they are becoming harder to find.