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Old 01-31-2011, 09:10 AM
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Hey guys,

I swapped out my sister's 2002 Civic EX with one from a 2003 EX. I dropped the subframe and pulled out the transmission and engine. I separated the two, put the new engine on, swapped over all the parts and put it back together. At first, the starter clicked and nothing happened. I put the battery on the charger and tried again. The ECU was making some noises... like a buzzing, and the lights were flickering. I tried a couple more times and the same thing happened, then some smoke came from the glovebox area.

Halp!!

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I tried a new starter and battery, neither worked.
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then some smoke came from the glovebox area.
That's never a good sign. Is the ECU even good anymore?


No offense meant, but I think you should seek professional assistance before something else goes wrong.
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Not sure, honestly. I think it's fried, but I don't know. All I did was remove the old engine and install the new one, and they're identical. Not much coulda gone wrong.
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Default Re: 1.7 Civic Swap Gone Bad! Help!

The smoke could be from a fried fuel relay as well, which is much cheaper by comparison to the ECU. It is blue in color.

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^ nice! Where's that located?
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Default Re: 1.7 Civic Swap Gone Bad! Help!

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^ nice! Where's that located?
If you remove your glove box lid, it'll be on the frame that has the hinges for the glove box lid. It is blue in color.
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Originally Posted by toyomatt84
The smoke could be from a fried fuel relay as well
Let's keep those fingers crossed.

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Where's that located?
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If you remove your glove box lid, it'll be on the frame that has the hinges for the glove box lid. It is blue in color.

To further what Matt said; Just pop the "stops" out of the sides of the glove box and let it fold all the way down. The relays are right behind it.

Visual aid:
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what kind of battery charger is it? some types are not intended to be hooked up to a car directly because the charging voltage may be higher than what the car's electronics can handle
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Thanks for the input guys. I tested the above pictured relays for continuity and they both checked out. I made sure I had the grounds connected and the battery is putting out the correct voltage. I removed the ECU and inspected it, but I see nothing out of the ordinary. I ordered a new (used) ECU online and I'll be bringing down to the Honda dealership to get reprogrammed. The green key was flashing on the dashboard.. =/
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I found one for $50 shipped... not bad considering the JUNKYARD wanted $185!
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But the dealer wants $100 to reprogram

Any way around that?
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But the dealer wants $100 to reprogram

Any way around that?

Nope.
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Default Re: 1.7 Civic Swap Gone Bad! Help!

Your electrical wires could be hooked up wrong some where, I've done that before... A ground missing for the starter etc. I did it on a 93 celica. To make sure it was that i hooked up power to the started to crank it over and it worked, so i knew the engine was good, so i narrowed down the electrical problem and fixed it..

Electrical problems are probable the worse thing to run into when swapping a engine. Good luck tell us what happens.
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