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Old 03-03-2013, 03:55 AM
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It's imperative to make sure that you use the screws to hold the rotor in place. Just put some brake grease on the threads when you tighten em so that they don't bind to the hub when you need to replace the rotors again.

I used to think that you didn't need them but what happens at high rates of speed when you brake is that if those screws aren't there then centrifugal force will cause the rotor to sway away from the hub and warp the rotors faster.

I just put the screws on about a couple weeks ago and my braking has never been this good since I did the conversion.

Also, make sure whenever you change your pads that you are removing the caliper slider bolts and putting grease all over them and reinsert them back into the caliper. Try to remove as much of the old grease as possible if this is your first time cleaning them. They just pop right out and slide right back in.
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Default Re: for those with rotor over hub (roh) conversion...

And I always thought those screws were to hold the rotor in place at the manufacturing plant. Next time I do my rotors, I will add those screws but I haven't had problems since I did my ROH since 2010.

Also, good tip on the slider bolts.
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Default Re: for those with rotor over hub (roh) conversion...

Thanks for the heads up!



I just did mine like 3 weeks ago. Doesn't have the rotor screws, but I'll scoop two sets of those on Friday. Going bigger rotors and Legend dual pistons calipers soon.

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Default Re: for those with rotor over hub (roh) conversion...

your lug nuts hold the wheel on, which pressed against the rotor, then to the hub, there's not way the rotor will wobble unless all 4 lugs come loose, which they shouldn't. The screws are just used to hold the rotors on during assembly, for brake maintenance.
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Default Re: for those with rotor over hub (roh) conversion...

Originally Posted by Fliptard
your lug nuts hold the wheel on, which pressed against the rotor, then to the hub, there's not way the rotor will wobble unless all 4 lugs come loose, which they shouldn't. The screws are just used to hold the rotors on during assembly, for brake maintenance.
It's true that the wheels bolts down the rotor tight against the hub, but at a high speed or quick halt will cause the brake rotor to sway out of place as the pads quickly bites them down and the lug studs trying to force the rotor in one direction.

I don't think you understand what the OP's trying to say.
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Default Re: for those with rotor over hub (roh) conversion...

hope you guys are not putting that grey or black grease on the caliper bolts for Christ sake
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Default Re: for those with rotor over hub (roh) conversion...

Nobody puts grease on the bolts. You're only supposed to put brake grease on the sliding pins and the back of the brake pads.

And I drive my car harder than anyone and I am certain there is a difference when you put the rotor screws on. I'm certain of it.
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Question why do this ?
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Default Re: for those with rotor over hub (roh) conversion...

You would do the roh conversion to more easily be able to replace the rotors over time. The stock accords have the rotor behind the hub assembly and it's considerably harder to replace the rotors. When you do the swap the rotors sit in the front of the hub instead of behind it and in that case you need to use rotor screws to hold the rotor against the hub. The stock accords need not worry about rotor screws because they are behind the hub and held in place perfectly.
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Default Re: for those with rotor over hub (roh) conversion...

Yup, by doing ROH doesn't require you to remove the whole knuckle nor press the rotor/wheel bearing unit off just to replace the rotors and better yet. Slides right off like a Civic.

I don't know why or who would grease caliper bolts. Lol. I grease the slide pins using Sil-Glyde.
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Default Re: for those with rotor over hub (roh) conversion...

How do you do this? Sounds like a good idea
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Default Re: for those with rotor over hub (roh) conversion...

lol cause i've done it...why do you think i made this thread
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Default Re: for those with rotor over hub (roh) conversion...

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Question why do this ?
Because you can run better rotors, especially if you go to 5-lugs. Like the 300mm rotors off an Acura RL.
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Default Re: for those with rotor over hub (roh) conversion...

Cool
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Default Re: for those with rotor over hub (roh) conversion...

Search. There's a DIY on here.
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Default Re: for those with rotor over hub (roh) conversion...

Originally Posted by holmesnmanny
Nobody puts grease on the bolts. You're only supposed to put brake grease on the sliding pins and the back of the brake pads.

And I drive my car harder than anyone and I am certain there is a difference when you put the rotor screws on. I'm certain of it.
i know i meant the sliding pins. he said he put grease on them
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Default Re: for those with rotor over hub (roh) conversion...

Had a shop do my ROH conversion (good thing cause it took their guys forever to disassemble the knuckle on one side, I guess one of the bearing bolts snapped, complete pain and I'm glad I didn't have to deal with it) and they wouldn't do it without putting the bolts in. Guess it's just as well I've left them then huh?
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