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Old 10-26-2009, 02:53 PM
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Noobie question: Is there a recognized term/name for this F22 head F23a bottom creation?
Old 10-26-2009, 03:05 PM
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How was your clearence v/p.
Old 10-26-2009, 03:31 PM
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Why did you port out that IM to less runners? I feel like u may have lost some low end mid torque in the process of gainin top end... But im not hating ha love that torque curve and im sure u enjoy the added Top endd haha
Old 10-27-2009, 11:06 AM
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Congrats on finishing the build man! Looks like you tried to put together a lot of good parts here.

Originally Posted by FunnyVictor86
not to burst ur bubble but seriously ... 200ish hp with all that work? i do admire using the variety of oem parts for your build ... i must admit i love oem myself
I'm wondering the same myself. I know Bisi has helped along quite a few similar builds, which attained upwards of 260whp. Perhaps they had quite a bit more compression? I can't recall what their torque numbers were, but doesn't 156ft/lb seem a bit low for 2306cc of displacement at 11:1cr? Maybe Bisi has some input on that.

Also, if I'm calculating correctly, 97x87mm, ~50cc combustion chamber, 0.00cc dome piston, and .010" milled head should put you around 12.2:1cr. Your thoughts?


Originally Posted by Whats Up DOHC
W/Bisi's stg 2 cam, H23 IM & crap I/H/E ppl make like 170whp (up from like 100whp stock. not bad at all)... good to see what extra compression + displacement can do. I'm curious to see what a high compression F22A can do with the more streetable stg 2 cam. Somehow I think this motor has a **** more power to be unleashed up top.

Good build though man.
I agree, there's got to be more potential to tap from that engine. Any reason you didn't go higher compression with that level 3 cam? I'm hoping to bump my compression up from 9.9 to 12.4 soon and see how she likes that, but that's a story for a different thread.


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How was your clearence v/p.
x2. I'm curious as well.
Old 11-02-2009, 06:57 PM
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that's a seriously messed up torque to hp ratio on such a long stroke motor. There are several other F series builds on CB7TUNER making more torque with less hp on the F22 bottom end. Props, however, for building an F!
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Never spent much time in the Accord forum, so I never noticed this. 202 is pretty good. I'm kinda surprised how low the torque is. If it's making power to 8k and beyond then there probably is a restriction someplace.

Thank you for sharing. This is the first 200whp+ NA SOHC cam dyno I've seen on H-T.

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Default Re: F23a Bottom+ F22a head=202hp

Originally Posted by PirateMcFred
Never spent much time in the Accord forum, so I never noticed this. 202 is pretty good. I'm kinda surprised how low the torque is. If it's making power to 8k and beyond then there probably is a restriction someplace.

Thank you for sharing. This is the first 200whp+ NA SOHC cam dyno I've seen on H-T.

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hey pirate. google anything f23 related and you pop up in the thread and not only on this forum.

2 year bump. just wanna see whats happened to this build since then.
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Im really interested on how this turns out, im thinkin the same kinda build but around 12 CR, lookin to get around 250whp N/A\
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How much money did you spend on this?
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i cannot believe i never found this thread before. 202whp out of that setup in 2009 is good. are you still driving this?
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Originally Posted by jdm92_accorn
i cannot believe i never found this thread before. 202whp out of that setup in 2009 is good. are you still driving this?
+1 where the **** have I been??
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Originally Posted by kingyeddi
+1 where the **** have I been??
+1 agreed. wow.
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Originally Posted by jdm92_accorn
i cannot believe i never found this thread before. 202whp out of that setup in 2009 is good. are you still driving this?
He was trying to sell it just after hitting this mark. that was 3 years ago and I haven't seen this user post anything since. I'm not sure if he is still around? Might have a new user name!
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Default Re: F23a Bottom+ F22a head=202hp

i still need to get up with you about the head. i should have the money soon, pm me on cb7tuner. im getting a new cam from DDtech and going with crower maxi-lite rods and oem 2009 TSX pistons.
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