salmaan

Hi,
Just a quick one, there is a distributor with part no. 30100-P1K-E01 (its a CIVIC UK 1.6 91-98 OBD1). can it be used on my F22b SOHC VTEC?

as this is a 1.6 D16 dizzy so can i use it on my F22b Sohc vtec with D16 firing order?

hondamark35

they both have the same firing order. that doesn't mean it will bolt right up and work though.. you will at least be able to get one bolt hole to line up and get the shaft to lock into the cam. but there are three bolt holes and the timing (phase) would need to be confirmed. if you have the resources (tools, documentation, mechanical aptitude..) it can be made to work right without too much trouble.

salmaan

i have this dizzy on my f22b sohc vtec, problem is that car is not idling properly, it miss fires too much. its the cylinder 1 which is giving me a problem cuz when i put plug wires off of cylinder 1's spark plug. there is no change in engine state. so this is the problem.

I've checked everything, even took off the head and everything was in excellent. no leakage or problem. compression across the cylinders is 190 +- 5. wiring is ok, timing is spot on, triple checked it. i only have one code i.e. IAT sensor which is not connected (its broken and soon to receive IAT from a friend)

so i checked and found that dizzy is off a d16 obd1, can anyone post up a picture of their f22b and its dizzy so i know the firing order?

GhostAccord

Firing order is 1 - 3 - 4 - 2

Here is how the distributor and spark plug wires are hooked up.



The red arrow is pointing to the No.1 cylinder position on the distributor cap. The No.1 position should be marked on the distributor.

salmaan

my engine is different!
its a black top with spark plugs in front and its does not has any external coil, its a internal coil based.

GhostAccord

The firing order is still the same and the no.1 cylinder position is also the same. Just forget about the external coil wire.

salmaan

attached is my engine bay pic and dizzy pic. plez help me sorting out this issue.

i've been having this idle problem since i did this swap.

GhostAccord

Imagine that the valve cover is black.....



This is all I have. I've never run a D16 distributor on an F22B, I'm not sure if the timing phase is the same between the two. Someone else will have to chime in....

94EG8

Never personally tried that particular combination, but the timing is often different between different distributors.

hondamark35

i have a D15B2 (DPFI) housing bolted to my F23/F22A project motor.. i could take a look at the timing phase for that. i guess it still wouldn't guarantee anything for the OP, but could be some nice trivia

salmaan

@ghostaccord!
currently on my f22b with 30100-P1K-E01 dizzy wires are opposite, instead of 1,2 (as shown in your pic) i have 3,4 and 1,2 instead of 3,4 (in your pic). if i change the firing order/plug wires as per your pic then i cant start my car, it only misfires.
i'm totally confused! never thought this could be the issue. i thought all odb1 dizzy are the same as far as they match the bolt pattern, mine is spot on each bolt match perfectly but its a d16 dizzy and i'm having this idle prob since quite long.
only suspect now is this distributor.

anyone with similar experience or one who used d16 dizzzy (internal coil) on f22 plz chime in and let me know learn from your experience.

salmaan

anyone?
if i change my dizzy, the firing order will be changed automatically? or do i need to change a few wire here and there as well>?

salmaan

@ghostaccord!
the pics you've shown is of internal coil dizzy or external coil?

GhostAccord

The first pic I posted is of an OBD2 F22B2 external coil distributor. The second is of an OBD1 F22B1 internal coil distributor.

If you get a replacement F22B SOHC VTEC distributor the wiring should be the same as the two that I posted above. As long as the distributor you get is in good working order you can at least scratch that off the list of probabilities. As for the timing it will be as shown above 1-3-4-2 and the No.1 cylinder wire should be marked on the distributor cap.

salmaan

@Ghostaccord
in the pic above (the one with obd1 dizzy) why arent you using the stock map sensor which in mounted on top of the manifold?

GhostAccord

That is not a picture of my car. This is a picture of another members Accord. It is an F22B(1) VTEC head swap into a 1990-93 CB7 Accord. The owner is using the stock, 90-93 Accord, MAP sensor that is mounted in the vacuum box on the fire wall.

The distributor pictured on the F22B(1) above that I posted is not a SOHC F22B(1) VTEC distributor. It is an F22A* distributor, therefore the wiring is not the same as the F22B(1) I am sorry for the confusion. The post made by Redbull-1 shows that the SOHC F22B VTEC (F22B1) distributor cap & wiring is different than the SOHC F22B Non VTEC (F22B2)