Can Accords do well at the track?
11-12-2009, 03:20 PM
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Re: Can Accords do well at the track?
you can buy a lot of integra of civic for 6k. some salvage title type R's have even sold around this dollar amount. it wouldn't be hard to find a nice GSR with good mods for 6k
11-12-2009, 06:43 PM
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11-13-2009, 01:57 PM
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genius, OP asked if accords were worth doing anything but DD. if the track is where it's at, why would you pick a heavy platform like the accord when the civic and integra are lighter and have better engine options?
11-13-2009, 05:01 PM
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stock for stock, the accords out handle civics. the chassis is stiffer. and power-wise(once again, stock for stock), have more power AND torque than the D series. if you plan on just tracking the car, you'll put less money into a F22a motor to get 12-13s out of than you would out of a D-series.
with light mods done to the suspension(Tokico Illuminas and Eibach Sportlines, Progress rear sway bar, Poly bushings, good tires) will have you handling really well compared to a Civic or Teg. look at Bisimoto's car.
F22a motor is pushing 400+whp N/A. he made a header for the F22a motors that makes 27whp on a bone stock motor. with that header, exhaust, intake, cam, P&P'd head, port matched intake manifold, chipped ECU, and a good tune, you'll be pushing above H22 numbers.
what makes it better is that you'll have all that power and STILL have the torque to match. unlike the Civic motors(D series or B series) which will have 500whp but 250ft-lbs of torque.
out of all the vids ive seen of Best Motoring, the Accords seem to hang with or even out handle the Civics or Tegs. theres even a few vids of the CD5 from JTCC over taking a Skyline and a Ferrari.
11-13-2009, 06:37 PM
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stock for stock, the accords out handle civics. the chassis is stiffer. and power-wise(once again, stock for stock), have more power AND torque than the D series. if you plan on just tracking the car, you'll put less money into a F22a motor to get 12-13s out of than you would out of a D-series.
with light mods done to the suspension(Tokico Illuminas and Eibach Sportlines, Progress rear sway bar, Poly bushings, good tires) will have you handling really well compared to a Civic or Teg. look at Bisimoto's car.
F22a motor is pushing 400+whp N/A. he made a header for the F22a motors that makes 27whp on a bone stock motor. with that header, exhaust, intake, cam, P&P'd head, port matched intake manifold, chipped ECU, and a good tune, you'll be pushing above H22 numbers.
you have too much fail listed to even comment back on. go post this in the autocross/roadrace section and see what people tell you
what makes it better is that you'll have all that power and STILL have the torque to match. unlike the Civic motors(D series or B series) which will have 500whp but 250ft-lbs of torque.
out of all the vids ive seen of Best Motoring, the Accords seem to hang with or even out handle the Civics or Tegs. theres even a few vids of the CD5 from JTCC over taking a Skyline and a Ferrari.
with light mods done to the suspension(Tokico Illuminas and Eibach Sportlines, Progress rear sway bar, Poly bushings, good tires) will have you handling really well compared to a Civic or Teg. look at Bisimoto's car.
F22a motor is pushing 400+whp N/A. he made a header for the F22a motors that makes 27whp on a bone stock motor. with that header, exhaust, intake, cam, P&P'd head, port matched intake manifold, chipped ECU, and a good tune, you'll be pushing above H22 numbers.
you have too much fail listed to even comment back on. go post this in the autocross/roadrace section and see what people tell you
what makes it better is that you'll have all that power and STILL have the torque to match. unlike the Civic motors(D series or B series) which will have 500whp but 250ft-lbs of torque.
out of all the vids ive seen of Best Motoring, the Accords seem to hang with or even out handle the Civics or Tegs. theres even a few vids of the CD5 from JTCC over taking a Skyline and a Ferrari.
11-13-2009, 08:31 PM
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hey if im wrong. correct me. but then again, most on H-T would like others to bask in their own stupidity instead of correcting them. but ok.
point still remains. you come onto a thread with the title "can ACCORDS do well at the track" not "recommend another car that will do good at the track". instead of recommending some other car, why dont you stay on topics and offer advice. have you raced an accord before? have you rode in one with a modified suspension to see how they handle? have you or any of your friends been to the track in an accord and ran and did good? if not, the your imput is NOT needed...
11-14-2009, 12:02 AM
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hey if im wrong. correct me. but then again, most on H-T would like others to bask in their own stupidity instead of correcting them. but ok.
point still remains. you come onto a thread with the title "can ACCORDS do well at the track" not "recommend another car that will do good at the track". instead of recommending some other car, why dont you stay on topics and offer advice. have you raced an accord before? have you rode in one with a modified suspension to see how they handle? have you or any of your friends been to the track in an accord and ran and did good? if not, the your imput is NOT needed...
point still remains. you come onto a thread with the title "can ACCORDS do well at the track" not "recommend another car that will do good at the track". instead of recommending some other car, why dont you stay on topics and offer advice. have you raced an accord before? have you rode in one with a modified suspension to see how they handle? have you or any of your friends been to the track in an accord and ran and did good? if not, the your imput is NOT needed...
11-15-2009, 07:11 AM
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Re: Can Accords do well at the track?
I think really it depends on what track the OP is talking about. At the dragstrip, sure, anything's possible, but it'll take a lot of money. On a ractrack, such as a NASA event, then no, probably not. At an SCCA Solo event, then maybe, depending on what class you were in. I would tell the OP to do only enough mods to keep him in the Street Touring class for Solo and have fun. I think most people would be surprised to see that only about 15% of racing in Solo is what you have into your car, while the other 85% is driver skill.
Do you have a link handy that goes to a build thread or anything like that? I find 400+ N/A whp to be a little unbelievable.
Do you have a link handy that goes to a build thread or anything like that? I find 400+ N/A whp to be a little unbelievable.
11-15-2009, 07:52 AM
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I think really it depends on what track the OP is talking about. At the dragstrip, sure, anything's possible, but it'll take a lot of money. On a ractrack, such as a NASA event, then no, probably not. At an SCCA Solo event, then maybe, depending on what class you were in. I would tell the OP to do only enough mods to keep him in the Street Touring class for Solo and have fun. I think most people would be surprised to see that only about 15% of racing in Solo is what you have into your car, while the other 85% is driver skill.
Do you have a link handy that goes to a build thread or anything like that? I find 400+ N/A whp to be a little unbelievable.
Do you have a link handy that goes to a build thread or anything like that? I find 400+ N/A whp to be a little unbelievable.
yeah. i dont think the OP ever made it clear as to what kind of track he wanted. some low boost(like between 8-`0psi), a good suspension set up, and some good tires and he can do 13-14s at the drag strip for under $2200.
and if you need a link, look up Bisimoto. he's on this site. he has the 400+whp N/A F22a.
- 1988 CRX Unibody, F22A full race:
9.81 @ 139mph - 2006 Insight Unibody, F22A:
9.42, 150mph
11-17-2009, 08:10 PM
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Re: Can Accords do well at the track?
I think really it depends on what track the OP is talking about. At the dragstrip, sure, anything's possible, but it'll take a lot of money. On a ractrack, such as a NASA event, then no, probably not. At an SCCA Solo event, then maybe, depending on what class you were in. I would tell the OP to do only enough mods to keep him in the Street Touring class for Solo and have fun. I think most people would be surprised to see that only about 15% of racing in Solo is what you have into your car, while the other 85% is driver skill.
Do you have a link handy that goes to a build thread or anything like that? I find 400+ N/A whp to be a little unbelievable.
Do you have a link handy that goes to a build thread or anything like that? I find 400+ N/A whp to be a little unbelievable.
What can I say. Im a skeptic.
too.
11-18-2009, 08:18 AM
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Re: Can Accords do well at the track?
I think really it depends on what track the OP is talking about. At the dragstrip, sure, anything's possible, but it'll take a lot of money. On a ractrack, such as a NASA event, then no, probably not. At an SCCA Solo event, then maybe, depending on what class you were in. I would tell the OP to do only enough mods to keep him in the Street Touring class for Solo and have fun. I think most people would be surprised to see that only about 15% of racing in Solo is what you have into your car, while the other 85% is driver skill.
Tell that to all the JGTC accords that took trophies. Or the Realtime TSX's. . .
Given those cars are big bucks, they win races.
11-18-2009, 11:51 AM
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Nobody said anything about JGTC race cars, the OP made a vague reference to "the track", and I was just making reference to some common sanctioning bodies that the every day guy can drive in.
11-18-2009, 11:58 AM
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Re: Can Accords do well at the track?
like stated above stock civic > stock accord all day everyday. and back to the accord being good at the tracks? yes, if tuned right. take a 2003 accord v6 6speed, slap a supercharger on that beezey, and tell me that's not a fast car. shoot, dont have money for the supercharger, but a 6speed v6 accord is fast already, STOCK. let me see an integra try to beat that one.
11-18-2009, 01:02 PM
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like stated above stock civic > stock accord all day everyday. and back to the accord being good at the tracks? yes, if tuned right. take a 2003 accord v6 6speed, slap a supercharger on that beezey, and tell me that's not a fast car. shoot, dont have money for the supercharger, but a 6speed v6 accord is fast already, STOCK. let me see an integra try to beat that one.
anyway. having a CD5 myself i have noticed a few things. yes stock for stock a civic or integra will smoke an accord, however, i feel the accord has much more potential. having SOHC it will be good for some higher torque numbers than that of the b series engines. and although the aftermarket is not as deep as that of the civic or integra, many of the parts to build the car are relatively cheap. you can find an F22b1 block in the junk yard for really cheap and build it while driving the car daily. the fight back and forth about boosting on a stock block is a little silly. the stock bottom end is forged and there is already relatively low compression so it is very susceptible to boost. also, having gone on a cruise yesterday with my friends 99 impreza rs, the car has a ton of potential for suspension tuning. i could take corners just as fast as he could and my suspension is stock. if i had some good springs and shocks and some more rigidity, the car would be a track trophy. the car is low and wide to begin with so it makes it perfect for handling.
11-18-2009, 01:59 PM
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Since my under 20 post count didn't tip you off, yes, I'm new. Me not hearing about some high hp n/a honda doesn't have any bearing on the amount of knowledge I have for motorsports in general.
Nobody said anything about JGTC race cars, the OP made a vague reference to "the track", and I was just making reference to some common sanctioning bodies that the every day guy can drive in.
Nobody said anything about JGTC race cars, the OP made a vague reference to "the track", and I was just making reference to some common sanctioning bodies that the every day guy can drive in.
WOuldnt you say???
Put another way... I should have a SHITload more than the post count I have,,,, On this account....
Some people have 632976396394639264396365329 posts and cant figure out "WAZZZ better... F22 boosted or H...
11-18-2009, 02:09 PM
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I dont put stock in peples post counts.... Rather. WHAT they post is more accurate an indicator.........
WOuldnt you say???
Put another way... I should have a SHITload more than the post count I have,,,, On this account....
Some people have 632976396394639264396365329 posts and cant figure out "WAZZZ better... F22 boosted or H...
WOuldnt you say???
Put another way... I should have a SHITload more than the post count I have,,,, On this account....
Some people have 632976396394639264396365329 posts and cant figure out "WAZZZ better... F22 boosted or H...
Join Date/Post Count are but small factors in what each member brings to the community
As far as the topic at hand
Any car can do well....bring money
11-18-2009, 02:30 PM
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ok folks. the OP asked if an accord can do well at the track for $6k. not if a civic can beat an accord. not what other car he can buy for $6k that will do better than an accord at the track. he asked if it would be worth it to put money into an accord. to solve it for the OP.
YES you an accord can do well at the track and for well less than $6k. an N/A H22a(with a tune after some cams an other light mods) with some spray or a boosted F22a(i would prefer to do this. less money more power) and the right suspension set up and you can do well at any track. course or drag.
YES you an accord can do well at the track and for well less than $6k. an N/A H22a(with a tune after some cams an other light mods) with some spray or a boosted F22a(i would prefer to do this. less money more power) and the right suspension set up and you can do well at any track. course or drag.
11-18-2009, 04:52 PM
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Re: Can Accords do well at the track?
this will help a accord doing 11.3 at the track that is the fastest i seen
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1...ord_634175.htm
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1...ord_634175.htm
11-18-2009, 05:40 PM
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Re: Can Accords do well at the track?
this will help a accord doing 11.3 at the track that is the fastest i seen
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1...ord_634175.htm
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1...ord_634175.htm
civic beating an accord stock? are you serious. i beat so many civics easily, like taking candy from a baby.
back to the OPs question, yes 6k is plenty to work with , use it wisely
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Re: Can Accords do well at the track?
this will help a accord doing 11.3 at the track that is the fastest i seen
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1...ord_634175.htm
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1...ord_634175.htm
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Re: Can Accords do well at the track?
I'd say it seems rather silly to ask someone with a post count of less than 20, "What are you new???" I'd say it's also rather silly to question someone's general automotive knowledge, based solely on whether or not they know about one single car in particular. But I guess that's just me.
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Re: Can Accords do well at the track?
this will help a accord doing 11.3 at the track that is the fastest i seen
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1...ord_634175.htm
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1...ord_634175.htm
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