F2D / H2D F20B swap build thread for my 94 hatch (now H23VTEC)
08-17-2009, 11:17 AM
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Re: F2D / H2D F20B swap build thread for my 94 hatch (now H23VTEC)
awsome thread..ive been thinking about doin a f20b swap in my eg coupe..its just not common around here thats y i want one..seems like a cheap build n swap as well..is it worth it tho? n are the parts really hard to find?
08-20-2009, 08:38 AM
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Re: F2D / H2D F20B swap build thread for my 94 hatch (now H23VTEC)
Updated.
Engines:
1. Original CX engine, d15b8. Removed for next engine.
2. Turbo GSR engine, b18c1. Stolen.
3. CX replacement engine d15b8. Cheapest replacement available. Same engine that the car came with, but not the car's original engine.
4. DX 16 valve cylinder head from d15b7. Valve chipped.
5. HX VTEC-E cylinder head from d16y5. Removed for GX replacement engine.
6. GX CNG d16b5 engine. Removed. Pre-ignition detonation.
7. D15B VTEC engine. Removed, seller failed to mention that it was damaged.
8. D15B VTEC engine #2. Removed for replacement engine.
9. F20B DOHC VTEC. Over revved, valve floated on #1 causing cylinder head and cylinder block failure.
10. D16A6. head replaced for d16y8 head
11. D16Y8 Head swap on D16A6 block, removed because I knocked a rod through the block.
12. D15B VTEC engine #3. Current engine in my car.
Engines:
1. Original CX engine, d15b8. Removed for next engine.
2. Turbo GSR engine, b18c1. Stolen.
3. CX replacement engine d15b8. Cheapest replacement available. Same engine that the car came with, but not the car's original engine.
4. DX 16 valve cylinder head from d15b7. Valve chipped.
5. HX VTEC-E cylinder head from d16y5. Removed for GX replacement engine.
6. GX CNG d16b5 engine. Removed. Pre-ignition detonation.
7. D15B VTEC engine. Removed, seller failed to mention that it was damaged.
8. D15B VTEC engine #2. Removed for replacement engine.
9. F20B DOHC VTEC. Over revved, valve floated on #1 causing cylinder head and cylinder block failure.
10. D16A6. head replaced for d16y8 head
11. D16Y8 Head swap on D16A6 block, removed because I knocked a rod through the block.
12. D15B VTEC engine #3. Current engine in my car.
10-25-2009, 12:58 PM
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Re: F2D / H2D F20B swap build thread for my 94 hatch (now H23VTEC)
it was a good read though. and i was wondering where he found the time for all this in the first place.
11-22-2009, 09:29 AM
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Re: F2D / H2D F20B swap build thread for my 94 hatch (now H23VTEC)
Looking back on this thread, I realized that I never really posted a conclusion as to what happened with this build. As this was my largest build that was a composite of several other components that I worked on.
I kinda wanna address why it just fell off. This project was a fun project, although I didn't finish every goal I had with it, I got far along enough to where the "proof of concept" was complete.
As one pursues the exciting hobby of car tuning, digging around and reading up on the message boards will always leave one with a lot more unanswered questions. I was hungry for the knowledge but I was not in the right learning environment. I simply got to the point where I could no longer learn from the message boards. This ultimately led me to other books that I found. These books were able to answer my questions, however they were written for those that had a large foundation in a mechanical engineering curriculum. Needless to say, it was at this point where I decided to bail out on my car projects and get a stronger foundation in mechanical engineering.
I sold everything and used it for money while I was in school. Although at first glance it may sound like I have given up on the build. In reality, what I wanted from the build is much more than I was capable at the time of building.
I'm not done with car tuning, I just took a side step. What's in store for the future? I'm not sure. I keep debating on all these wild ideas. And no car projects seem to really offer 100% of what I desire. Who knows, maybe i'll end up doing something like the kimini project one day. Not sure, but the only thing I'm sure of is that it will definitely be ***** 2 the wall bense style
As my mother used to talk trash to my father "if a little bit is good, a lot must be better!" Well I guess I have inherited my father's "shortcomings" hahahahhahahahahaha
I kinda wanna address why it just fell off. This project was a fun project, although I didn't finish every goal I had with it, I got far along enough to where the "proof of concept" was complete.
As one pursues the exciting hobby of car tuning, digging around and reading up on the message boards will always leave one with a lot more unanswered questions. I was hungry for the knowledge but I was not in the right learning environment. I simply got to the point where I could no longer learn from the message boards. This ultimately led me to other books that I found. These books were able to answer my questions, however they were written for those that had a large foundation in a mechanical engineering curriculum. Needless to say, it was at this point where I decided to bail out on my car projects and get a stronger foundation in mechanical engineering.
I sold everything and used it for money while I was in school. Although at first glance it may sound like I have given up on the build. In reality, what I wanted from the build is much more than I was capable at the time of building.
I'm not done with car tuning, I just took a side step. What's in store for the future? I'm not sure. I keep debating on all these wild ideas. And no car projects seem to really offer 100% of what I desire. Who knows, maybe i'll end up doing something like the kimini project one day. Not sure, but the only thing I'm sure of is that it will definitely be ***** 2 the wall bense style
As my mother used to talk trash to my father "if a little bit is good, a lot must be better!" Well I guess I have inherited my father's "shortcomings" hahahahhahahahahaha
11-22-2009, 02:47 PM
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Re: F2D / H2D F20B swap build thread for my 94 hatch (now H23VTEC)
Bense, ive come to the conclusion that I will NEVER have a car that will offer 100% what I desire. No car will ever be exactly how I want it or have every feature that I want. oh well, what the hell can you do.
11-10-2011, 09:06 AM
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Re: F2D / H2D F20B swap build thread for my 94 hatch (now H23VTEC)
07-04-2013, 09:54 PM
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Re: F2D / H2D F20B swap build thread for my 94 hatch (now H23VTEC)
I've recently returned to this build in which I still have many stones left unturned.
Internal rhymes are intentional.
Internal rhymes are intentional.
07-05-2013, 12:48 PM
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Re: F2D / H2D F20B swap build thread for my 94 hatch (now H23VTEC)
hey, bense. i got my h2d in my car and when i try to drive it. the driver side axle keep on breaking. it seem like the driver side axle is a little short.
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Re: (Bense)
Updated.
Engines:
1. Original CX engine, d15b8. Removed for next engine.
2. Turbo GSR engine, b18c1. Stolen.
3. CX replacement engine d15b8. Cheapest replacement available. Same engine that the car came with, but not the car's original engine.
4. DX 16 valve cylinder head from d15b7. Valve chipped.
5. HX VTEC-E cylinder head from d16y5. Removed for GX replacement engine.
6. GX CNG d16b5 engine. Removed. Pre-ignition detonation.
7. D15B VTEC engine. Removed, seller failed to mention that it was damaged.
8. D15B VTEC engine #2. Removed for replacement engine.
9. F20B DOHC VTEC. Over revved, valve floated on #1 causing cylinder head and cylinder block failure.
10. D16A6. head replaced for d16y8 head
11. D16Y8 Head swap on D16A6 block, removed because I knocked a rod through the block.
12. D15B VTEC engine #3. Current engine in my car.
Transmissions:
1. Original CX transmission for engine #1
2. GSR transmission for engine #2
3. CX transmission for engine #3
4. 96 CX transmission (just like 96-00 HX transmission) for engine #4
5. Hybrid transmission #1, used on engine #5
6. "Bense" mfactory/quaife transmission used on engine #6/7/8. Removed off engine #8 for clutch housing damage.
7. d16y8 transmission used on engine #8
8. "Bense" transmission with new replacement housing, used on engine #9
9. Hybrid transmission #2. Used on engine #10 while "Bense" transmission was revised.
10. "Bense" transmission with HX final drive + custom Gear-x 1st gear. Removed because more testing was required.
11. Hybrid transmission #3. Used on engine #11. dx 1-2, zc 3rd, vx 3rd as 4th, zc 5th, ex final drive, obx lsd
12. Hybrid transmission #4 Used on engine #12 DX 1-2, ex 3rd, zc 4th, zc 5th, dx final drive.
13. Revised version of #10 trans.
Engines:
1. Original CX engine, d15b8. Removed for next engine.
2. Turbo GSR engine, b18c1. Stolen.
3. CX replacement engine d15b8. Cheapest replacement available. Same engine that the car came with, but not the car's original engine.
4. DX 16 valve cylinder head from d15b7. Valve chipped.
5. HX VTEC-E cylinder head from d16y5. Removed for GX replacement engine.
6. GX CNG d16b5 engine. Removed. Pre-ignition detonation.
7. D15B VTEC engine. Removed, seller failed to mention that it was damaged.
8. D15B VTEC engine #2. Removed for replacement engine.
9. F20B DOHC VTEC. Over revved, valve floated on #1 causing cylinder head and cylinder block failure.
10. D16A6. head replaced for d16y8 head
11. D16Y8 Head swap on D16A6 block, removed because I knocked a rod through the block.
12. D15B VTEC engine #3. Current engine in my car.
Transmissions:
1. Original CX transmission for engine #1
2. GSR transmission for engine #2
3. CX transmission for engine #3
4. 96 CX transmission (just like 96-00 HX transmission) for engine #4
5. Hybrid transmission #1, used on engine #5
6. "Bense" mfactory/quaife transmission used on engine #6/7/8. Removed off engine #8 for clutch housing damage.
7. d16y8 transmission used on engine #8
8. "Bense" transmission with new replacement housing, used on engine #9
9. Hybrid transmission #2. Used on engine #10 while "Bense" transmission was revised.
10. "Bense" transmission with HX final drive + custom Gear-x 1st gear. Removed because more testing was required.
11. Hybrid transmission #3. Used on engine #11. dx 1-2, zc 3rd, vx 3rd as 4th, zc 5th, ex final drive, obx lsd
12. Hybrid transmission #4 Used on engine #12 DX 1-2, ex 3rd, zc 4th, zc 5th, dx final drive.
13. Revised version of #10 trans.
06-12-2016, 05:51 AM
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Re: F2D / H2D F20B swap build thread for my 94 hatch (now H23VTEC)
Project migrated to this. I wound up going 'H23VTEC' in an Accord.
https://honda-tech.com/honda-accord-...hread-3215149/
But I've got the itch....
https://honda-tech.com/honda-accord-...hread-3215149/
But I've got the itch....
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