Water/meth injection... what's your kit?

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Old 02-14-2011, 08:31 PM
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2) Nope. The methanol/water solution will absorb additional water over time since methanol is hygroscopic, so it will make your AFR less rich or more lean as it absorbs water and thus injects less methanol per volume, but that won't significantly diminish the anti-knock qualities of it, since the water is best for that anyway.

3) Very safe. I've run my 70% methanol mixtures all summer under the hood, no problems. After the impromptu flammability tests I did in the driveway though, I can tell you that I'd feel safer with 50/50 mix in there. . .
im running 100% meth. is that not save?!!
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im running 100% meth. is that not save?!!
its just extremely flammable lol
Old 02-15-2011, 04:10 AM
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Exactly. The stuff is extremely flammable, you won't see the flames when it's burning, and it is poisonous. On the other hand, it's VERY nice for your engine! LoL...
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So any buddy using this in place of a IC????
Old 02-15-2011, 08:40 AM
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FWIW, I'm obviously a big proponent of the water/methanol injection, and I'm not sold on the idea of it being as effective as an intercooler. To be fair though, I haven't tested it that way, and they say the W/I injection gains effectiveness with additional temp in the compressed air it's being injected into. I guess I shouldn't be so quick to judge...

Back in the day when people were injecting pre-carb, I think the W/I had a better chance to get well atomized and well distributed when it went through the venturis. Injecting it into the airstream that is heading for an intake manifold designed for dry flow just seems a little less than confidence inspiring.
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I still would prefer an intercooler over meth/water injection as well because it is more reliable and alot easier to control.
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Anybody know where to pick up another nozzle for a coolingmist kit aside from through coolingmist themselves, or another option? $35 seems like a lot...
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Default Re: Water/meth injection... what's your kit?

Im looking for a meth kit, going for 400whp at around 22psi. There are so many options on both Devils own and Coolingmist website, i want a trunkmount setup that can do 400whp and has fail safes, im also running S300 if that makes any difference. Thanks for any help!
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Is the 5 gallon AEM kit over kill? This is all new to me...I want a good setup. I just don't know how fast I'll be going thru the mixture. thanks
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Default Re: Water/meth injection... what's your kit?

Don't see too many Aquamist users.... plenty of failsafes with their products too.
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Default Re: Water/meth injection... what's your kit?

hi am building a all motor b18 with 13.2:1 pistons and stage 3 cams and valves and i was i should check in to a water/methanol kit because of the quality of gas in atlantic canada isnt so great and i was woundering if its worth it
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Default Re: Water/meth injection... what's your kit?

Originally Posted by 98b18hatch
hi am building a all motor b18 with 13.2:1 pistons and stage 3 cams and valves and i was i should check in to a water/methanol kit because of the quality of gas in atlantic canada isnt so great and i was woundering if its worth it
High compression and low octane fuel in your area...of course its worth it. What kind of octane pump gas are we talking? That is high compression to run on pump without meth period.

E85 or pump gas+meth/water is definitely a good solution. Not only will the car make more power but the boost in octane will make it safer based on the compression and fuel octane.
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im pretty sure our high octane pump gas is 85 or 89 percet
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as anyone here used water/meth injection while running E85? I tried it this weekend but couldn't tell if it affect anything negatively, but since I am basically mixing 2 different alcohols. but I noticed a temp a drop of 35 degree F. it was a hot weekend, ECT temp was running high, oil temp was rising but not too bad. right now I'm looking into ducting options.
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Default Re: Water/meth injection... what's your kit?

Originally Posted by rudebwoy
as anyone here used water/meth injection while running E85? I tried it this weekend but couldn't tell if it affect anything negatively, but since I am basically mixing 2 different alcohols.
Not really. The point of meth/water was to act as both an octane booster and cylinder chamber cooler. Those of us that use it tend to avoid E85 anyway.. which is why users prefer it over E85
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Default Re: Water/meth injection... what's your kit?

had a coolingmist kit on my K20Z4 to help getting me some more power on my intercooled TTS Performance Rotrex C30-94 kit with no luck!

Now i got an AIS kit with my C38-81 but still nothing...water meth thing isn't for me and can't tell why!!
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Default Re: Water/meth injection... what's your kit?

Originally Posted by Alex_FN2R
had a coolingmist kit on my K20Z4 to help getting me some more power on my intercooled TTS Performance Rotrex C30-94 kit with no luck!

Now i got an AIS kit with my C38-81 but still nothing...water meth thing isn't for me and can't tell why!!
How did you retune the car after you installed the kit?
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Default Re: Water/meth injection... what's your kit?

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How did you retune the car after you installed the kit?
with coolingmist on my C30-94 setup had a no 7 nozzle pre TB and after fine tuning got this

thin line is without w/m



exactly the same on my new c38-81 with AIS kit,had 1 nozzle pre s/c and another pre TB.

i'm in contact with Rodney trying to figure it out why this is happening,i'll make some tests on September with different nozzles.
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Default Re: Water/meth injection... what's your kit?

I'd try just ONE location into the TB only. You might not be gaining much because AFRs may not be adjusted for both locations, or it may be trying to compress water.

Talk to your tuner, use one location
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Default Re: Water/meth injection... what's your kit?

yes i know this is an old thread. Some good info in here, thought i would keep it going as this is relavent.

I am in the process of building a custom 2 stage kit, with fail safes(low pressure).

Those who have a pressure switch set up as a failsafe, how did you wire it into your Hondata s300? I am planning on 2 nozzles, one post IC(comes on early), and one pre turbo(comes on later). With 2 pressure switches, how would i go about wiring them both so they work independently?

One area i lack a lot of knowledge on is electrical :-/ but really want to build this myself.
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Default Re: Water/meth injection... what's your kit?

Has anyone used the FJO kit? It looks nice but I haven't heard of anyone using it.
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