fcluddington

You have to wonder how you got a complete type R so cheap. I mean it could be a stipped ITR engine-crank,cams,missing.everything but the pretty red VC. All BS aside if you have the real deal they are excellent motor to boost, run a compression check see what your numbers are. What are your fuel options, if you are a 11.1 think about meth injection, Or someone who has tuned before.
surprised you guys dont make ethanol out of sugar their.

fcluddington

This is very put!

nealnanoHX

I am going to get a go auto kit as well. Nice kits.

slowtegkauai

I could sell it or swap it for a GSR with some cash on their side. But If I do it that way I may as well strip the whole block and build it with forged internals. All Im looking for is a simple kit to bolt on to my motor and call it a day. I will be lowering the compression with a thicker head gasket but that would only make it around 10.5-10.8:1 Much better than 11.1:1

Is the ITR bottom end just as strong as a GSR? As in sleeves and they both have girdles on the crank journals right? Its just the High compression that makes it a night mare to boost?

As for it being a real Type R motor, I opened up the valve cover to see for my self and there is gree markings on the cams and valvetrain and by the distributor as well. I had 250psi #1
255psi #2
255psi #3
255psi #4
This was with the throttle wide open and 5 cranks. All shot up past 90psi on the first crank.

I also did a leak down for the hell of it and since the plugs were out but had a hard time to hold the crank. So I used a breaker bar to hold each piston at TDC while testing.
7% leak down CYL #1
5% leak down CYL #2
5% leak down CYL #3
5% leak down CYL #4
This was also done with the engine warm but not hot since this was done after the compression test. I opend the throttle body to listen for any hissing and all was good. I checked the exhaust for hissing and nothing. Opend the oil cap and could hear the air so to me that is normal because every engine has blow by. I have not tested one motor yet that the rings could seal 100% and not let any air excape.

slowtegkauai

Nice! Is your turbo water cooled too? Im tring to stay away from running coolant lines to the turbo. What are your HP goals? Im just looking for a fun street car to drive, nothing crazy. I also have A/C and power steering, would the tubular manifold work for us? I know for sure the Log one will. I will put the FPR last on the list but will add a fuel pressure gauge just to keep an eye on. I guess it would be better not to touch fuel pressure, instead add bigger injectors. I think ID 1000cc injectors are to big for my goal. But I will look into it. Thanks for your help, at least I can feel safe when ordering from them as I have never bought anything from them before.

4cylfiend

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The Go-Autoworks kits are really nice and really good quality plus the fitment is perfect. Greg's customer service is really good too. I also think you should switch to a garrett turbo as well.

here are some pics of my Go-Autoworks stuff:







The manifold, downpipe, dumptube, intercooler and piping, and catch can kit were all from Go-Autoworks

racebum

those are excellent results.

as for your other questions. yes the itr bottom end is as strong as the gsr. both are cast on p72 blocks, cranks and rods are similar strength and both use cast pistons

slowtegkauai

Cool, why would you reccomend swithing to garret? Is that an option from Go Autoworks? Remember I need this kit to be A/C and P/S compatable. Also not looking to go over 300HP Is the turbo that they supply with their kit too small or something?

racebum

go auto can provide garrett. if you're after 300whp the two turbos that pop in my mind are the garrett 50 trim and precision 5431e cea, either with .63ar. the precision flows a couple lb/hr more and has that billet cold side wheel. i actually tested one of the 5431E's on the same engine you have and it made 280whp on 3.5 cylinders and a .6 bar spring. cylinder 2 lost a lot of compression, most likely during tuning {my guess} response was more or less instant, no lag, felt like driving a larger motor more than a turbo 4cyl

strongly suggest meth injector or e85. i'm not saying it isn't possible to make work on pump alone, just saying more than a few of us have damaged jdm itr's with pump and boost even with excellent tuners

Whiterice-gsr

x2 for the .63 a/r and the smaller turbos 57 trim is as big as you would want to go but if u will be happy with 300 then go with all the response u can get, racebum loved the response on his 5431 i seriously debated buying it from him but alas i have been bit by the turbo bug and wanna shoot for 450 - 500hp. so i need a much bigger snail.

Whiterice-gsr

if u really want to make this safe u could add some aftermarket pistons and bring the compression down to say 10.5 and change out the rods while youre in there.

If i were u i would pull the r motor and sell it. with that money i would buy a usdm gsr drop it in and boost that. u could put the extra money left over into better parts for your build. the gsrs can take a **** load of abuse trust me lol. there was a guy on here making 488hp for a pretty good long time before he nuked the motor. i do not recommend that. with a gsr u will def be more reliable and to make for the lost compression u can add some more boost and sit at 300-350 reliably. just my .02

ek_si808

No the turbo isn't water cooled! Well I'm shooting for the same 300-350. All I need is itr cams which I'm swithing out real soon. Same here, my car is my daily driver!!!!! I think te tubular would work of we didn't have ac etc.... Go bigger injectors to support the compression and power of te turbo. Fuel is always key to having your car run cherry! Without fuel you'll loose/not make any power. Yeah it was my first time ordering from them as well! The kit should take 3-4 weeks to come in. Mines took 4 cuz I added a handful of parts that Greg had to wait on...

I'd say just run the s200 turbo. Or get the new batmowheel s200 street X kit that greg is putting together! I would have went with that kit if he unleashed it a week before I ordered mines!

ek_si808

I'm surprised we dont either! Lol

slowtegkauai

Off topic but I heard some here talking about a new Batmowheel turbo. What the heck is that? Any one here care to explane? haha

slowtegkauai

Im now considering getting rid of this ITR motor and use that money to buy a Golden Eagle sleeved block. You see what you guys do, now if that happens.. well I guess I should shoot for 600HP right? Will a stock GSR head with some turbo cams alow for that? Or would 500HP be more realistic? Is that possible with a single fuel pump?

ek_si808

Google the batmowheel turbo. It spools faster than the s200 Borg Warner turbo! Same turbo different wheel.

Don't go for turbo cams, use itr cams. My mistake in getting pro 1 cams... And your gonna need double after 500.. Correct me if I'm wrong.

slowtegkauai

The pictures I seen of those turbos looks like the wheel sticks out further than normal. Looks like new technology. Any one here using those turbos?

fcluddington

yea you are probably right to just sell it if you want 500plus whp. even with forged internals, 500 is alot on stock sleeves. 400 no problem. Make sure you clean it up Lets see a picture before you get rid of it.

slowtegkauai

clean up the ITR motor? I just bought the car and the previous owner took care of the car and motor. He has used OEM oil filters and changed oil every 4k miles. Also how do I post pictures? Do I have to upload it to Photobucket first?

racebum

read the gsc turbo thread. if that's your power goal you would have an easy time copying myles setup

Whiterice-gsr

i think before u go crazy spending money hand over fist u should see what 300 whp feels like alot of ppl are more than satisfied with that amount of power. 500whp on a street car is up there man. like i said swap that motor for a usdm gsr use the left over money to buy your go auto kit and tune it to 300 and see what u think. u will be surprised how fast 300 is in our cars.

or just bolt a turbo to your existing itr and get a reputable tuner that knows hondas well and tune it to 300 and see what u think.

slowtegkauai

will consider doing that first as it will leave me with more pocket money haha. And if I want more, then I could upgrade the turbo and injectors then retune. This build may take a while, depending if someone buys this motor. No one here actually knows much about honda jdm motors. The guy I bought it from didnt even know the value of this motor haha.

racebum

the engine only with those compression numbers with all sensors and whatnot is worth $2400-2700

that goes a long way toward a sleeved setup

slowtegkauai

I should keep the transmission right? Its a s80 and has LSD stamped on the top

racebum

i would. it's the best and strongest of factory transmissions. the short gearing might get to you if you really crank the power up but that's a ways down the road.