flesh199

^^^^^

your crazy man...Get yourself a s300 lol.Your stock type r engine with a small kit will be enought for you to start.

TheShodan

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You can do that with an aftermarket AEM EMS. You will not be able to run any turbocharger setup with an obd2A or OBD2B stock ECU. I'm sorry, it just won't happen.

You'll need to answer my question about your emissions laws by checking with your state to see if failure is based upon not seeing a signal, or an actual error code only.

You're overthinking and making this difficult again.. *sigh*...

Good luck to you.

raverx3m

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Come on mang im not that big of a noob.
I donno where you see that im trying to drive the car with a turbo and obd2b ecu

raverx3m

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the k-pro if that works out is a missing link for me
It has wideband built in
Distributorless setup
And maybe even pass emissions
The guy said the obd2 port works with the scanner already
Our emissions read sensor responce
But im guessing just a basic and maybe cat efficiency from the rear sensor . Sensor present/no codes-good to go. Because that civic wouldnt pass if they red it any amount of time it was barely running but still passed lol

BLU CIVIC

Find more information searching and cross referencing first so you can ask an informative question vs something that's been covered 1000 times over. At least that's what worked for me and my build.

raverx3m

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I am. I was just confused after I started reading into turbo setups. and he answered a lot of the questions that I thought I had right

is there a thread with stock motor turbo setups(that are done and dynoed) here or on b20vtec forums?
I'm looking through the dyno section but a lot of them are far from stock and stock block dyno thread is mostly not stock also

every thread about stock type-r turbo I found is an argument about how much boost you can run on stock motor with my buddy references and not **** for information or any setups or dynos lol

I see now what you mean about the PSI vs the power motor makes I didn't get that for a while either.
just remembered to check evans tuning dyno section again. I never stalked their turbo section lol didn't want to see the numbers compared to the b series all motor section made me cry all the time

BLU CIVIC

Since you have mention GSR, this is a good thread:
https://honda-tech.com/forced-induct...501150/page45/

When I started at zero knowledge, I searched everyones set-up looking for stock engine and what kit they used or what they used to piece it together. I then made an excel file and listed everything. Switching out parts for better units as I searched. Took me some months to finally get it finished and this was my set-up for a few years:

B18c1
Skunk2 intake manifold
Omni Power 70mm throttle body
Garrett T3 turbo (60 hot, 48 or 52 cold)
550cc Chrysler injectors
Omni 2.5bar map sensor
NGK BKR7E spark plugs
Blox cast manifold
2.5" downpipe w/ Tanabe exhaust
Tial wastegate w/ 10.1psi spring
GReddy Type S bov
Stealthmode oil pick-up/return lines
ATP oil restrictor
Precision 350hp intercooler
Go-Autoworks 2.5" intercooler piping
Go-Autoworks vacuum block
Endyn catch-can
Mishimoto 80° fan switch
Zirgo 12" pusher fans
DA dual core radiator
GReddy Full Auto Turbo Timer
GReddy sandwich plate
Walbro 255 fuel pump
DEI Reflect-A-Gold heat wrap
DEI Titanium exhaust wrap
turbo blanket
PLX Wideband
HRTuning Tunerview II
Tuned on Neptune

I post this because a lot of it I got from just looking at other peoples set-ups. That and there are some things listed that I didn't need and/or no longer available. It took a while longer than buying a kit, which I'd probably do if I bought another Honda. IMO piecing it together just makes you more knowledgeable. And that's my 2 cents.

2kdrift

Simple some ppl are 'dumb' or living in the past or the post is old, we have learned that it is not a good metric and moved on

all motor is a joke compared top boost, a D16 with a SMALL to medium turbo would smoke a Type R Non Turbo any day

Type R motor is NOT ANY DIFFERENT FROM ANY OTHER B18 or BSERIES FOR THAT MATTER, as shodan has already stated multiple messages back. The issue with running a OEM internals Type R motor is the stock pistons combined with high compression ratio which will limit the power you can make safely. If you had upgraded pistons and rods then you will raise the capability as far as how much power you can make safely (you can run same compression as factory type R). I could be wrong but from my research type R and GSR use same crank and rods so we are only talking about the pistons here which running a high compression ratio is FINE but please get forged aftermarket pistons as the OEM will not hold up well.


Nobody cares about PSI as it related to your current question, ITS MEANINGLESS IT IS NOT A GOOD METRIC. 10 PSI on one turbo (lets say gt28) is not the same as another turbo (say GT35) it is completely different power wise and the amount of air seen by the motor. It cannot be used to determine anything relevant to this thread. Instead of asking about or referencing PSI we want you to reference HP instead.and no your Type R motor does not have PSI limits or anything but it does have HP limits given the engine internals.

did you use that link I provided earlier? as I am quite sure there is at least one type R dyno in there


its really not that complicated:

Do you want over 300 HP?

NO: you can run a type R internals or GSR both would be fine and any increase in power would be very marginal but type R would be a bit better

YES: BUILD THE BLOCK, High comp is fine as long as you build it right and get a GOOD TUNE

Your not the first person that had to deal with emissions on a boosted honda, see what they did I cannot offer any more then that on this subject as I dont need to deal with it....But hey you could always just Move states

2kdrift

1969 Mini Cooper - 295whp/225tq - NepTune - Dyno Graph

raverx3m

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type-r crank and rods are different from gsr. usualy better balanced but as many pointed out irrelevant in turbo setups

after looking at evans tuning I found few stock setups and many are making over 300whp as well.

again the whole reason for sticking to usdm ITR spec is emissions...
that's the only limitation I have... and was trying to work with it and see whats possible

if the obd2 port doesn't work they get very suspicious and try to go under hood to"connect the battery cables" I don't know if what they see under it actually affects how the perform the test or not but I would rather just get in and out quickly with a passing paper and no headache.

Boost happy94

Useful thank you bump for you.

raverx3m

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is there a good reliable ebay turbo kit ? so I don't have to piece one together?

sorry I just had to put it out here. had to get it out of my head lol

cruizinmax

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No. I feel like all of the no-name kits are a crap shoot. Some people have great luck and others fail immediately. I would rather follow the motto "do it right or do it twice."