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Old 02-19-2007, 02:33 PM
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Default Re: How hard to reach 12's? (zeimbo)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zeimbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

they mean that if you have to ask a question as simple as that damn muffler crap, you have no business telling anyone how to do anything on a honda. you might as well have made a post like "will my cluster from my 4 door civic fit in my 2 door civic?".</TD></TR></TABLE>

I meant outside of the EJ-chassis, what muffler would work (because they are harder to come by around here). Sorry for asking a question about stock mufflers, I should really try not to ask things like that, since stock mufflers and turbo setups have such a huge correlation.

Just a quick by the way, did you have anything in response for my post at the top of page 2 or no? I mean I'm apparently far more stupid than you are so I just can't wait to hear what your take on that is.
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youre still not getting the point. youre acting like youre so knowledgable and like youve researched this or something, but you asked a question that even my brother (a guy who can barely tell the difference between a carbuerator and a valve spring) knew.
i wasnt even going to acknowledge your idiot response. if you think you can look at some generic *** pics you found off ebay and say that theyre the same, then you obviously have no business trying to educate anyone on anything.
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Default Re: How hard to reach 12's? (zeimbo)

heres the exact specs from my timeslip : CAr# 600
ov/un : 12835
R/t : .314
60' : 2.133
330: 5.591
1/8 : 8.383
mph 89.77
1000: 10.795
1/4 : 12.835
mph: 110.49

thats from maple grove raceway aug 11 06
Old 02-19-2007, 03:03 PM
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Default Re: How hard to reach 12's? (zeimbo)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zeimbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">youre still not getting the point. youre acting like youre so knowledgable and like youve researched this or something, but you asked a question that even my brother (a guy who can barely tell the difference between a carbuerator and a valve spring) knew.
i wasnt even going to acknowledge your idiot response. if you think you can look at some generic *** pics you found off ebay and say that theyre the same, then you obviously have no business trying to educate anyone on anything.
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lol, thats uncanny that your brother who can't tell the difference between a carburator and a valve spring knows all of the mufflers that honda ever made that will fit onto an EK hatch. ******* incredible.

As for the other thing, I don't know how to make it any more plain for your stupidass, they are the same ******* manifold. They are all shitty, they are all made by the same company.
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nice times what tires were you on seems like you could have dropped you 60 time and been mid 12's .. The only thing i don't see is how this was done on stock injectors? I thought they would have been maxed out way before the power you could make would give you those times? What motor was it on again? Either way good times.
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oh ok, obviously youve never cut all or any of them open and looked at the welds (me and my friend cut his ssac open after it took a dump). but just off the top of my head, the ssac doesnt have wastegate and has smaller runners, the obx and tsudo have the wastegate on different sides and the obx has much better quality welds and has welds about 3 inches off the head flange (the ssac and tsudo dont). also, on the tsudo and ssac manifolds, the #1 runner flares out and it doesnt do so on the obx. also, if you notice that obx also makes a tubular manifold now and those are actually decent quality.
you can try to make things as plain as youd like, but there is a difference between apples and oranges, despite the fact that they are both fruit. either way, my point was that ebay manifolds are beyond shitty and <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by . a d a m &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> They are all shitty </TD></TR></TABLE>. go buy yourself "hondas for dummies" , at least that way you might seem you like partially know what youre talking about when you try to speak to someone who has been in the game for years
Old 02-19-2007, 03:21 PM
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Default Re: How hard to reach 12's? (zeimbo)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zeimbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> my point was that ebay manifolds are beyond shitty and . go buy yourself "hondas for dummies" , at least that way you might seem you like partially know what youre talking about when you try to speak to someone who has been in the game for years</TD></TR></TABLE>

Guess where I found the picture of that OBX? On one of their typical ebay listings. Honestly, if you want to think that Tsudo/SSAC/OBX are all completely different in quality, fine, like I said in like my second post in this thread, I really do not give two ***** what you like to believe, thats up to you. I'm done, have a nice night.
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i was runnig 225 50 15 bfg drag radials and they would not stick.. spun till 3rd every time.. even on a hot day.. car had decent torque for what i did... and ya stock injectors, motor was stock b18a1 ..
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Default Re: How hard to reach 12's? (zeimbo)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zeimbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">they mean that if you have to ask a question as simple as that damn muffler crap, you have no business telling anyone how to do anything on a honda. you might as well have made a post like "will my cluster from my 4 door civic fit in my 2 door civic?".</TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL!
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Default Re: How hard to reach 12's? (zeimbo)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zeimbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">youre still not getting the point. youre acting like youre so knowledgable and like youve researched this or something, but you asked a question that even my brother (a guy who can barely tell the difference between a carbuerator and a valve spring) knew.
i wasnt even going to acknowledge your idiot response. if you think you can look at some generic *** pics you found off ebay and say that theyre the same, then you obviously have no business trying to educate anyone on anything.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jsilva &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nice times what tires were you on seems like you could have dropped you 60 time and been mid 12's .. The only thing i don't see is how this was done on stock injectors? I thought they would have been maxed out way before the power you could make would give you those times? What motor was it on again? Either way good times.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Remember, there are 2 ways to increase the amount of fuel going through the injector. Increase amount of time the injector is open or increase pressure behind it. With a FMU he was doing the latter. It's hard on injectors but works.
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**EDIT had to post the slip


lol with my ebay cast mani and ebay 57trim on crome i ran a
RT.242
60ft 2.032
330ft5.475
1/8th 8.147
1/8mph 93.65
1000ft 10.432
1/4 12.369
mph 116.01

Cheap *** ebay crap low 12.'s with a full interior ek coupe with 150k mile old suspension 800$

cromepro 150$

knowing my cheapo d-series runs with your full race gsr = PRICELESS

okok im a trader i went gt turbo and sls topmount now lol i was just broke then .. but iwhipped alot of nicer cars i think i would have broke 11's with the next run but i blew a head gasket at the 1000 ft mark lost a bunch of mph heres the slip

what u think

rt.229
60ft 1.978
330ft5.362
1/8th 8.109
mph 95.83
1000 10.18
1/4 12.629
mph 103.46

video of dyno and the runs y7 nonvtec motor too

Click here to see Video

Modified by hitatree.at125mph at 6:20 PM 2/19/2007


Modified by hitatree.at125mph at 6:24 PM 2/19/2007
Old 02-19-2007, 05:49 PM
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man apparently I went with the wrong chassis lol. I know crx's are light, but if you really ran 12's with that bullshit, I may be doing something wrong. Then again Im making my car a MORE luxurious cruiser per se lol. Adding over 100 lbs of dynomat will do that, which I guess gives the reasoning of needing 400 whp to move the fat bitch.
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Default Re: How hard to reach 12's? (95GSRTT)

ya like the one guy says.. power to weight ratio .. i ran the 12 in a 91 hatch though.. with this crx i got now it blows that away.. i put money on 11 sec pass when track opens.. but this car is crazy gutted.. nothing extra at all.. hollow doors and open 3" side pipe and all so its not "technically" st legal but in reading they dont care about that anymore really , but 12's are easily acheivable with any car
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Default Re: How hard to reach 12's? (racinskittle)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by racinskittle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I can't imagine why you had to upgrade a SSAC setup.....it's mind boggling. </TD></TR></TABLE>

lol... I try out everything... I LOVE testing stuff. Ive had over 30 different turbo setups in the last 6 years.

Ive tried all brands and enjoy mixing things up.

I'm not a cheap'o... promise lol
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMs1eeper &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm not a cheap'o... promise lol</TD></TR></TABLE>

suuuurrrreeeeee thats what they all say
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Hahahah just some more ssautochrome bs. I love H-T
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by . a d a m &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I wasn't talking about a half assed build either, I could do all of that for cheaper than 5k.</TD></TR></TABLE>
And thats why my kit that was 5k will out preform your kit
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After reviewing the entire thread, there are some valid opinions and some not so valid. But honestly, if you're only looking for 12's, a SOHC with a log manifold and a decently sized t3/t4 turbo will get you there on drag radials. On slicks with a decent 60' ft., you'll need no more than 220whp in a 2400lbs. car. I went 12.97 with 184whp in a 2250lbs. car on drag radials. Cast iron manifold is durable and cheap, decent turbo, get some piping, I/C, fuel upgrades and most importantly, a good tune is critical for reliability. "Free ****" like CROME or Uberdata will do just fine.
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Default Re: How hard to reach 12's? (BoostedEG6)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoostedEG6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

suuuurrrreeeeee thats what they all say </TD></TR></TABLE>


SSAC... Garrett whats the difference?




:edit: - took myspace money shot off... yes that was a fake 1million dollar bill lol


EDIT again: ok ill post it back up..

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320 whp got me almost into the 11's

12.0 @ 118 mph
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