highest pump gas numbers?
05-20-2006, 08:17 AM
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Re: (onefstek)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by onefstek »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">bringing this thread from the dead, but I would like to know if anyone has passed the 600 whp on pump gas mark.
most I made on 92 octane pump gas from 76 station, was 575 whp and 403 wtq at 25 psi boost.
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What was the compression on this motor, and what was done to ensure there was no detonation? Got a dyno sheet?
most I made on 92 octane pump gas from 76 station, was 575 whp and 403 wtq at 25 psi boost.
</TD></TR></TABLE>What was the compression on this motor, and what was done to ensure there was no detonation? Got a dyno sheet?
05-20-2006, 08:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
What was the compression on this motor, and what was done to ensure there was no detonation? Got a dyno sheet?</TD></TR></TABLE>
CR is about 9.5 : 1 84mm roller wave pistons gsr motor.
Running a Apex-i Power Fc standalone ecu, with knock sensor reading verry low still.
What was the compression on this motor, and what was done to ensure there was no detonation? Got a dyno sheet?</TD></TR></TABLE>
CR is about 9.5 : 1 84mm roller wave pistons gsr motor.
Running a Apex-i Power Fc standalone ecu, with knock sensor reading verry low still.
05-20-2006, 03:28 PM
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Not sure on power, but I'd estemate around 400-450whp.
2.0 GSR/ITR 9:1 CR with GT30R at 20psi. 121mph traps. 94 Octane. No signs of detonation on the plugs.. just fuel...
2.0 GSR/ITR 9:1 CR with GT30R at 20psi. 121mph traps. 94 Octane. No signs of detonation on the plugs.. just fuel...
05-20-2006, 07:16 PM
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well, I brought this thread from the dead, cuz I did not want to start another one, with the same exact questione. so if any blame is to be made, than it should be on me. lol. 
05-20-2006, 07:41 PM
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Re: (onefstek)
i just dont' see someone with 9.5:1 compression making 575whp on 93 octane... i'm still a believer that past 400whp is skirting the issue, 500 to me seems extreme and dangerous especially since it seems my local gas changes it dynamics every week with the gas prices spiking....
maybe i'm just conservative
maybe i'm just conservative
05-20-2006, 10:56 PM
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Re: (GSRswapandslow)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GSRswapandslow »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">100 is the legal limit that can be dispensed from pump directly into car...anywhere
above that is not to be pumped into a vehicle, unless it's on a trailer</TD></TR></TABLE>
bullshit.. they have 111 and 108 octane AT THE PUMP that you pump directly into your car here in holts summit, mo.
above that is not to be pumped into a vehicle, unless it's on a trailer</TD></TR></TABLE>
bullshit.. they have 111 and 108 octane AT THE PUMP that you pump directly into your car here in holts summit, mo.
05-21-2006, 05:05 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike93boost »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
bullshit.. they have 111 and 108 octane AT THE PUMP that you pump directly into your car here in holts summit, mo.</TD></TR></TABLE>
there are two 109.5 octane pumps local for turbo blue, but they are in bum expletive middle of no where. regardless, if you have to drive 30 miles for special "pump gas' isn't it easier to just buy a drum more local and dump it in the car rather than wasting it on the way home?
bullshit.. they have 111 and 108 octane AT THE PUMP that you pump directly into your car here in holts summit, mo.</TD></TR></TABLE>
there are two 109.5 octane pumps local for turbo blue, but they are in bum expletive middle of no where. regardless, if you have to drive 30 miles for special "pump gas' isn't it easier to just buy a drum more local and dump it in the car rather than wasting it on the way home?
05-21-2006, 07:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by seen4ever »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i just dont' see someone with 9.5:1 compression making 575whp on 93 octane... i'm still a believer that past 400whp is skirting the issue, 500 to me seems extreme and dangerous especially since it seems my local gas changes it dynamics every week with the gas prices spiking....
maybe i'm just conservative</TD></TR></TABLE>
Made 420whp and 330ft-lbs with a GT30R at 20lbs - 21lbs on a 2.0 with 93 octane pump gas. Going togo back with a GT35R here soon.
maybe i'm just conservative</TD></TR></TABLE>
Made 420whp and 330ft-lbs with a GT30R at 20lbs - 21lbs on a 2.0 with 93 octane pump gas. Going togo back with a GT35R here soon.
05-21-2006, 07:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by seen4ever »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there are two 109.5 octane pumps local for turbo blue, but they are in bum expletive middle of no where. regardless, if you have to drive 30 miles for special "pump gas' isn't it easier to just buy a drum more local and dump it in the car rather than wasting it on the way home?</TD></TR></TABLE>
uhh the gas stations are right in the middle of town.. im less than a minute away from them, lol.
uhh the gas stations are right in the middle of town.. im less than a minute away from them, lol.
05-21-2006, 08:23 AM
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Re: (tony1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I agree /\</TD></TR></TABLE>
...that's why you add a little 109 to the mix and don't tell anyone..pump gas fool
...that's why you add a little 109 to the mix and don't tell anyone..pump gas fool
05-21-2006, 09:12 AM
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I really don't know why more turbo hondas arent utilizing water/meth injection. I know at our shop they have already been quite a few dsm's/srt-4's using it with great success. Most of the cars I've seen are making 25psi + on pump gas with it! We had a galant vr-4 make 28psi on pump gas and go 10.8........but just like andrea and jeff said you cant get even distribution to each cylinder.......yet. Before too long I think we'll see a good kit, the demand is definitely there.
Well to contribute to the actual post my ls did 373whp on pump gas(18psi) with only 11.8 degrees of advance. Tim Switzer was being very careful.
Well to contribute to the actual post my ls did 373whp on pump gas(18psi) with only 11.8 degrees of advance. Tim Switzer was being very careful.
05-21-2006, 03:41 PM
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Re: (mike93boost)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike93boost »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">bullshit.. they have 111 and 108 octane AT THE PUMP that you pump directly into your car here in holts summit, mo.</TD></TR></TABLE>
congrats...you just called bullshit to a name i posted under 3 years ago. but, the truth is still there, at least in NC. anything over 100octane is leaded....leaded gas is not legal to run on the street. they have pumps that sell 110 around here now, but, TECHNICALLY...it's not legal...
congrats...you just called bullshit to a name i posted under 3 years ago. but, the truth is still there, at least in NC. anything over 100octane is leaded....leaded gas is not legal to run on the street. they have pumps that sell 110 around here now, but, TECHNICALLY...it's not legal...
05-21-2006, 07:08 PM
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A little water goes a long way I wouldnt call it 100% pump gas power, but my current setup puts down close to 600WHP (568 on 25PSI) running 9:5:1 compression all on pump gas, which is 93 down here in FL. I built the car to test the limits of pump gas, kinda. I dont like the price of gas as it is, and cant see spending +$5 a gallon to drive a car around town every day. There is more power to be made on the setup(650+with more dyno time) but I have no doubt in my mind that with the right mixture (Alch/Water) pump gas can be a NON limiting factor, BTW these numbers were not reached with low timing numbers and rich A/F just some good old fashon EFI know how and Methonal/Alchohol Injection. These numbers were seen with a 50/50 mix of Water and Alchohol 
I wouldnt call it 100% pump gas power, but my current setup puts down close to 600WHP (568 on 25PSI) running 9:5:1 compression all on pump gas, which is 93 down here in FL. I built the car to test the limits of pump gas, kinda. I dont like the price of gas as it is, and cant see spending +$5 a gallon to drive a car around town every day. There is more power to be made on the setup(650+with more dyno time) but I have no doubt in my mind that with the right mixture (Alch/Water) pump gas can be a NON limiting factor, BTW these numbers were not reached with low timing numbers and rich A/F just some good old fashon EFI know how and Methonal/Alchohol Injection. These numbers were seen with a 50/50 mix of Water and Alchohol
05-24-2006, 08:40 AM
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Well im going to hit the dyno today, and see how she does after I fixed a few exhaust leaks. Ill let you guys know. Straight 92 octane gas, no water/alch. injection.
