Alright Check this out....Thoughts?
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Alright Check this out....Thoughts?
Ok was at importbuilders yesterday had the car tuned to 14.7psi/1BAR and made 265whp with 197ft/lb. These numbers are on a stock bore b16 (81mm) with a 9.8:1 c/r. Other than that here is what i'm running:
Drag 3
550 injectors
2.5 turbo back (dp, testpipe, Tanabe R/M)
AEM fuel rail & fpr
Hondata stage 2b
I was thinking the number were gonna be higher...suggestions on what to do about it? Thanks guys
*might i add that the motor is built with je pistons and crower rods*
[Modified by blu_si, 9:59 PM 11/28/2002]
Drag 3
550 injectors
2.5 turbo back (dp, testpipe, Tanabe R/M)
AEM fuel rail & fpr
Hondata stage 2b
I was thinking the number were gonna be higher...suggestions on what to do about it? Thanks guys
*might i add that the motor is built with je pistons and crower rods*
[Modified by blu_si, 9:59 PM 11/28/2002]
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Re: Alright Check this out....Thoughts? (blu_si)
one thing that might be holding you back is the 2.5" exhaust since it's at such a higher boost level (vs something like 6-8psi).
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Re: Alright Check this out....Thoughts? (CivicRyda2k)
wait a minute.. if that setup that he listed put out 190ish torque with a 2.5' exhaust and piping
would a 3' exhaust and piping decrease your torque? or would the torque rise with the horse power?
would a 3' exhaust and piping decrease your torque? or would the torque rise with the horse power?
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Re: Alright Check this out....Thoughts? (BoostinGSR)
wait a minute.. if that setup that he listed put out 190ish torque with a 2.5' exhaust and piping
would a 3' exhaust and piping decrease your torque? or would the torque rise with the horse power?
would a 3' exhaust and piping decrease your torque? or would the torque rise with the horse power?
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Re: Alright Check this out....Thoughts? (blu_si)
Ok was at importbuilders yesterday had the car tuned to 14.7psi/1BAR and made 265whp with 197ft/lb. These numbers are on a stock bore b16 (81mm) with a 9.8:1 c/r.
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Re: Alright Check this out....Thoughts? (SpoolinLS)
that seems really low from what im thinking...should be closer to at least 300 w/ that much boost...i dunno though
Yeah that's what i thought too, and that's what people keep saying to me and i want to know why it's not. And what i should be looking for, should i take it to another tuner? Do i need cam gears? Cams? New Ingintion (stock right now)?
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Re: Alright Check this out....Thoughts? (SpoolinLS)
that seems really low from what im thinking...should be closer to at least 300 w/ that much boost...i dunno though
here's the post if u wanna see
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=340623
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Re: Alright Check this out....Thoughts? (CivicRyda2k)
another thought i just had was, what size are your wheels? if you are rollin on some "ferris wheels" its gonna take alot away from your whp...compared to rollin some steelies on the dyno...
just a thought
just a thought
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Re: Alright Check this out....Thoughts? (SpoolinLS)
No "ferris wheels" here just rollin on stock si rims with 205/50 azenis. Hmmm...you think that my exhaust really could be holding me back that much?
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Re: Alright Check this out....Thoughts? (blu_si)
I dont thinl its your exhaust. Are the people who tuned your car good or reputable? i seen stock bottem end with the HP on lower boost.
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Re: Alright Check this out....Thoughts? (blu_si)
At ~15psi the exhaust will make a big difference, and the whole idea of a 3" loosing midrange is an N/A problem. With any FI setup the less backpressure the better as it spools the turbo quicker and produces power earlier.
Ask anyone that runs a straight down pipe how quickly the turbo spools.
If I were you I would take the exhaust and cat off for one dyno run and see what numbers you get. Then you will know whether to invest in a 3".
I have seen a bunch of hondata tuners over retard per pound of boost becuase the default hondata value is super conservative. This becomes evident when folks find the dont make more power when they go from say 13-15psi. If you can get a copy of your map i would be happy to look at it for you.
Ask anyone that runs a straight down pipe how quickly the turbo spools.
If I were you I would take the exhaust and cat off for one dyno run and see what numbers you get. Then you will know whether to invest in a 3".
I have seen a bunch of hondata tuners over retard per pound of boost becuase the default hondata value is super conservative. This becomes evident when folks find the dont make more power when they go from say 13-15psi. If you can get a copy of your map i would be happy to look at it for you.
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Re: Alright Check this out....Thoughts? (philo)
If you can get a copy of your map i would be happy to look at it for you.
I have seen a bunch of hondata tuners over retard per pound of boost becuase the default hondata value is super conservative. This becomes evident when folks find the dont make more power when they go from say 13-15psi.
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Re: Alright Check this out....Thoughts? (blu_si)
If you can get a copy of your map i would be happy to look at it for you.
How do i do this?
I have seen a bunch of hondata tuners over retard per pound of boost becuase the default hondata value is super conservative. This becomes evident when folks find the dont make more power when they go from say 13-15psi.
So what should i do about this, should i go to another tuner and ask him to look at it and see what he thinks? Do you think maybe the tuner retarded my timing becuase i'm running stock ign?
How do i do this?
I have seen a bunch of hondata tuners over retard per pound of boost becuase the default hondata value is super conservative. This becomes evident when folks find the dont make more power when they go from say 13-15psi.
So what should i do about this, should i go to another tuner and ask him to look at it and see what he thinks? Do you think maybe the tuner retarded my timing becuase i'm running stock ign?
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Re: Alright Check this out....Thoughts? (blu_si)
Something is definetly wrong I have personely seen Jeff pull over 350 horses out of cars only running 12psi! These were Ls Vtecs,B20's, and GSR motors but still you should be making more power!
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Re: Alright Check this out....Thoughts? (DA MUGEN 1)
Something is definetly wrong I have personely seen Jeff pull over 350 horses out of cars only running 12psi! These were Ls Vtecs,B20's, and GSR motors but still you should be making more power!
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