Bisimoto's 1st full Turbo build: Quest for 700whp D16Z WagoVan
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If the gearbox does not hold up, it would be a natural progression to change to a D2B kit, with a commercially available dog setup. If I do, I will share as well.
The D2B development is complete and now going through some beta testing before release. The Bisimoto Wagon will not be the test bed for this new kit.
The D2B development is complete and now going through some beta testing before release. The Bisimoto Wagon will not be the test bed for this new kit.
#252
Re: Bisimoto's 1st full Turbo build: Quest for 700whp D16Z WagoVan
Hey great build! maybe one of my RT wagons will see some of your products in the future. I sent you a pm.
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how is it not pump gas? if he gets the gas from chevron from a FREAKING PUMP then its pump gas. meth has nothing to do with it. its pump gas, it comes from a regular gas station...end of story.
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sweet build bisi. lets get some more updates/pics and moderate all the crap out.
unless i missed something, it appears your going to run a stock dseries tranny. would you still run this tranny if the car was actually drag raced?
unless i missed something, it appears your going to run a stock dseries tranny. would you still run this tranny if the car was actually drag raced?
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The argument is, if you add Meth to the fuel you have altered the composition/properties, and it's no longer considered to be 100% pump gas.
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I never understood this. This is a open forum. People can post what they want (bisi build thread, hate on bisi, love on bisi, everything). If the mods or admins feel it is not what they want on the forum, they can delete it.
I would love to take tech away from bisi's post, but they are like watching billy mays (RIP) of the car world. I am sure oxyclean works, but how good?
I love to read tech, but I know enough to know what is tech and what is not.
Best of luck on the build.
I would love to take tech away from bisi's post, but they are like watching billy mays (RIP) of the car world. I am sure oxyclean works, but how good?
I love to read tech, but I know enough to know what is tech and what is not.
Best of luck on the build.
Agreed on all points.
Rather then a reply of "My testing/experience led me to choose this product", how about what testing was done, what the results/flow numbers/etc were to allow people to decide for themselves, rather then simply relying on your word. You have done great things Bisi, no doubt, but some people are more technically minded and like to see numbers rather than a recommendation.
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How in the hell do you take the crap no one really chooses to build and some how make it work? (pioneer) That insight is some sheit, btw what are your ring specs, bearing specs and ptw clearances on this d16 build? I have a d16 laying around gathering dust and im anxious now. You do not have to reply I would understand.
Is this in reference to a D series engine to B series transmisson? Please say yes! I expect my build will have a need for this very item at some point in the near future. I am concerned that the transfer case in my build might not be capable of handling the power that I'm planning on putting through it, and an upgrade to a CR-V transmission might be in order.
Agreed on all points.
Rather then a reply of "My testing/experience led me to choose this product", how about what testing was done, what the results/flow numbers/etc were to allow people to decide for themselves, rather then simply relying on your word. You have done great things Bisi, no doubt, but some people are more technically minded and like to see numbers rather than a recommendation.
The serious guys do visit or talk to me at the track, and attimes via PMs. We have wonderful discussions and they know that I am an open book. As I learn things daily, I even continue to gain insights and also share my findings with those who are interested. This build thread had the design of sharing some indepth analysis on the tuning aspect of the build's engine and suspension, but based upon the feedback so far, the detractors may get it locked before we even get there.
Agreed.
It does look bad on your part Bisi. It wasn't a private album, and it's obvious you knew it, as you deleted the pic, then set the album to private once you realized it was open for public viewing. As someone who handled customer support and warranty claims for a $40M a year company, IMO, you did the wrong thing. It does not matter how badly an individual slams you or your company/products, you do not personally attack them, let alone in the open.
It does look bad on your part Bisi. It wasn't a private album, and it's obvious you knew it, as you deleted the pic, then set the album to private once you realized it was open for public viewing. As someone who handled customer support and warranty claims for a $40M a year company, IMO, you did the wrong thing. It does not matter how badly an individual slams you or your company/products, you do not personally attack them, let alone in the open.
Thanks, as I intend to finish the build thread. If we are successful with this goal, I will have some insights to the results. If we fall short, I will also explore why, and it would be a learning experience for me, and those who are interested.
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.. updates? Is the engine meeting the expectations you had at the start?
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Bisi, I am a big time noob here so im sure I could find this if I look but what magazine is this build in?
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It's being covered in Super Street Magazine.
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I swear to D-ebus, the lord of all that is good and holy in the SOHC world, the next person who wants to argue over semantics and is not one of the following:
1 - Amazed speachless
2 - Amazed but inquisitive
3 - Amazed, inquisitive, and looking to propose an alternative lifestyle with the OP
4 - Amazed, inquisitive, and contributing
I will be very e-displeased with
Bisi, I've always admired your work in N/A motors, but this F/I build takes my little 77mm D and throws it up against a wall and knees it in the groin multiple times. This may have been asked or stated before, but what are you doing in the way of transmission and gearing to keep the power on the floor?
1 - Amazed speachless
2 - Amazed but inquisitive
3 - Amazed, inquisitive, and looking to propose an alternative lifestyle with the OP
4 - Amazed, inquisitive, and contributing
I will be very e-displeased with
Bisi, I've always admired your work in N/A motors, but this F/I build takes my little 77mm D and throws it up against a wall and knees it in the groin multiple times. This may have been asked or stated before, but what are you doing in the way of transmission and gearing to keep the power on the floor?
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Bisi, here's a question for you.
I'm confused -- Somewhere on this forum are posts where you've said that the D-series transmission was actually superior to the B-series transmission as far as strength is concerned. Now you're discussing a transition to the B-series transmission to handle the additional torque supplied from a forced induction setup.
So which is it?
I'm confused -- Somewhere on this forum are posts where you've said that the D-series transmission was actually superior to the B-series transmission as far as strength is concerned. Now you're discussing a transition to the B-series transmission to handle the additional torque supplied from a forced induction setup.
So which is it?
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Ok, I have re-opened the thread.
A couple of things.
Apart from that enjoy - there is no need to get emotions so worked up over a silly little wagon with a hair dryer attached to it
A couple of things.
- Suggestions and commentary regarding the build are welcome (as always), and they don't necessarily have to be positive in nature.
Anything that adds value to this build thread is great! - If you have a grudge against someone, or have comments that don't necessarily pertain to this build, either contact that individual in question, or pose those questions in a thread that may already be in existence
Apart from that enjoy - there is no need to get emotions so worked up over a silly little wagon with a hair dryer attached to it
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Re: Bisimoto's 1st full Turbo build: Quest for 700whp D16Z WagoVan
seen this thing in person super sick and aggressive looking mini shuttle!!! haha siiiick build bisi!!!
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Bisi, here's a question for you.
I'm confused -- Somewhere on this forum are posts where you've said that the D-series transmission was actually superior to the B-series transmission as far as strength is concerned. Now you're discussing a transition to the B-series transmission to handle the additional torque supplied from a forced induction setup.
So which is it?
I'm confused -- Somewhere on this forum are posts where you've said that the D-series transmission was actually superior to the B-series transmission as far as strength is concerned. Now you're discussing a transition to the B-series transmission to handle the additional torque supplied from a forced induction setup.
So which is it?
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Sure, it may not hit 700whp on pump gas alone, but as long as you can DD it with pump gas, it's pump gas. And I believe it was never stated to run "100% pump gas".
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A couple of things.
- Suggestions and commentary regarding the build are welcome (as always), and they don't necessarily have to be positive in nature.
Anything that adds value to this build thread is great! - If you have a grudge against someone, or have comments that don't necessarily pertain to this build, either contact that individual in question, or pose those questions in a thread that may already be in existence-IBAdrian
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Re: Bisimoto's 1st full Turbo build: Quest for 700whp D16Z WagoVan
bisi you rock with the sohc, just try to keep your threads to a "tech" only and not make it sound like what i write for my Marketing classes lol
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Re: Bisimoto's 1st full Turbo build: Quest for 700whp D16Z WagoVan
Why was my question about which cam he's going to run deleted?
Article says 2.4, build specs on first page say 3.6....
Article says 2.4, build specs on first page say 3.6....
#275
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im sorry but i have to disagree. you took whats basically amounts to a 4 door ED hatchback, however unique that actually is, as its far from the first wagon thats been turboed, and you put together a bunch of off the shelf, available to anyone with a good paying job, a credit card, or mommy and daddy. thats cookie cutter as far as im concerned.
i applaud you for trying to put together a high hp d series, and i think you did a really nice job picking parts to put into the build. i hope you make your 700whp on race gas, just make sure if the numbers come from a dynapack, it has trap speeds to back it up.