Assistance Needed: Boost By Gear Setup Issues.
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Assistance Needed: Boost By Gear Setup Issues.
Hey all, I have an integra with a built motor making 430 but for some reason my bbg will not activate. I have checked and made sure the a11 pin in wired to the solenoid, 12v switched has power at the solenoid, vacuum lines are all correct. I am at a total loss and about to give up and pay an arm and a leg for a shop to figure out my issue...BUT before I do that i am wondering if anyone on here has ANY information that may be of help. I didn't set up the parameters as i do not know much of what I am doing in hondata. The only other thing that has crossed my mind is that o my wastegate (I am running a tial 44mm mvr) one of the air ports does not have a plug in it. Would this cause my issue? Thanks in advance guys!
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Re: Assistance Needed: Boost By Gear Setup Issues.
make sure a11 goes to the ground of the solenoid the positive lead on the solenoid should go to switched 12v.
yes you need to plug all the airports, if i remember correctly thta equals three plugs and 2 niplles depends if your running a 3 port or 4 port
whats your activation pressure set to? I had this same issue when I switched my activation pressure too low for some reason
yes you need to plug all the airports, if i remember correctly thta equals three plugs and 2 niplles depends if your running a 3 port or 4 port
whats your activation pressure set to? I had this same issue when I switched my activation pressure too low for some reason
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Re: Assistance Needed: Boost By Gear Setup Issues.
Yip the activation pressure is key, I have mine set to just above atmosphere (no vacuum). If its set too high the EBC will only start working once the boost has reached a certain point "mechanically" without assistance.
The other setting you need to play with is Fast Spool and the % duty cycle used for fast spool, note that if the fast spool pressure is set higher than your minimum required boost level, it will overshoot and then try and come back to target which creates oscillations in the boost curve and isn't good for traction either.
On Hondata you have the added bonus of having different activation and fast-spool pressures for each gear. So start off by setting 1st gear to close to wastegate pressure and then align it with your target settings in higher gears.
Post up a screenshot if this all seems confusing and we can try assist
PS: Sounds like your vacuum line setup isn't correct. If you running the EBC to the bottom port only, the top port of the wastegate should be blocked. If you running the EBC vacuum line to the top port of the wastegate then the bottom port should have a boost signal coming to it straight off the turbo (ideally). The solenoids's configuration both vacuum line routing and electronic config in Hondata software will also differ depending on style.
Use these links to troublshoot:
https://www.hondata.com/help/smanage...parameters.htm
https://www.hondata.com/help/smanage...parameters.htm
http://www.xenocron.com/install/PWM-...00-neptune.htm (my favourite how-to)
The other setting you need to play with is Fast Spool and the % duty cycle used for fast spool, note that if the fast spool pressure is set higher than your minimum required boost level, it will overshoot and then try and come back to target which creates oscillations in the boost curve and isn't good for traction either.
On Hondata you have the added bonus of having different activation and fast-spool pressures for each gear. So start off by setting 1st gear to close to wastegate pressure and then align it with your target settings in higher gears.
Post up a screenshot if this all seems confusing and we can try assist
PS: Sounds like your vacuum line setup isn't correct. If you running the EBC to the bottom port only, the top port of the wastegate should be blocked. If you running the EBC vacuum line to the top port of the wastegate then the bottom port should have a boost signal coming to it straight off the turbo (ideally). The solenoids's configuration both vacuum line routing and electronic config in Hondata software will also differ depending on style.
Use these links to troublshoot:
https://www.hondata.com/help/smanage...parameters.htm
https://www.hondata.com/help/smanage...parameters.htm
http://www.xenocron.com/install/PWM-...00-neptune.htm (my favourite how-to)
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Re: Assistance Needed: Boost By Gear Setup Issues.
The other setting you need to play with is Fast Spool and the % duty cycle used for fast spool, note that if the fast spool pressure is set higher than your minimum required boost level, it will overshoot and then try and come back to target which creates oscillations in the boost curve and isn't good for traction either.
As comedian Ralphy May gently put the idea of a thumb in your as.... "It's a little surprising and it feels a little weird at first, but....you'll eventually get used to it, and start to even like it, a little." .
No thumbs for me, thank you very much.
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Re: Assistance Needed: Boost By Gear Setup Issues.
That all reminds me of the GReddy Profec B Spec II, E-01, and Spec "gain" and "start boost" settings. But you young Thundercats wouldn't know about that stuff. Not with Hondata's thumb up everyone's *** in the Honda world.
As comedian Ralphy May gently put the idea of a thumb in your as.... "It's a little surprising and it feels a little weird at first, but....you'll eventually get used to it, and start to even like it, a little." .
No thumbs for me, thank you very much.
As comedian Ralphy May gently put the idea of a thumb in your as.... "It's a little surprising and it feels a little weird at first, but....you'll eventually get used to it, and start to even like it, a little." .
No thumbs for me, thank you very much.
PS: In South Africa the grassroots tuning world is still very rudimentary and the archaic hydraulic twist and click bleed valve is the defacto option for many. Those that venture to the world of EBC's usually opt for E-Boost 2, GFB or the aforementioned Greddy...and are the "forward thinkers".
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Re: Assistance Needed: Boost By Gear Setup Issues.
Hey all, I have an integra with a built motor making 430 but for some reason my bbg will not activate. I have checked and made sure the a11 pin in wired to the solenoid, 12v switched has power at the solenoid, vacuum lines are all correct. I am at a total loss and about to give up and pay an arm and a leg for a shop to figure out my issue...BUT before I do that i am wondering if anyone on here has ANY information that may be of help. I didn't set up the parameters as i do not know much of what I am doing in hondata. The only other thing that has crossed my mind is that o my wastegate (I am running a tial 44mm mvr) one of the air ports does not have a plug in it. Would this cause my issue? Thanks in advance guys!
http://www.xenocron.com/install/PWM-...00-neptune.htm
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Re: Assistance Needed: Boost By Gear Setup Issues.
And to make sure its working, set the EBC to fixed duty cycle, 50%, activation something under 0mbar so you can just turn the key to KOEO and hear it clicking.
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Re: Assistance Needed: Boost By Gear Setup Issues.
Had quite a chuckle, funny enough I am familiar with the Profec B Spec II and those infamous two settings...first boost controller I learnt to setup was a Blitz SBC-ID which too used "Gain". How far the turbo tuning world has come with 3D mappable boost curves driven by the EMS ;-)
PS: In South Africa the grassroots tuning world is still very rudimentary and the archaic hydraulic twist and click bleed valve is the defacto option for many. Those that venture to the world of EBC's usually opt for E-Boost 2, GFB or the aforementioned Greddy...and are the "forward thinkers".
PS: In South Africa the grassroots tuning world is still very rudimentary and the archaic hydraulic twist and click bleed valve is the defacto option for many. Those that venture to the world of EBC's usually opt for E-Boost 2, GFB or the aforementioned Greddy...and are the "forward thinkers".
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One thing I didn't see mentioned is which solenoid you are using (3 port or 4 port)? This will determine the vacuum line setup.
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