***Official F22B Turbo Thread***
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re: ***Official F22B Turbo Thread***
I have 156k as we speak. The engine is in pretty good condition as far as a I know. I did a compression test a couple of months back and got 180 across the board except cylinder 4 which was 179. I plan to use neptune and am shooting for atleast 220whp no more than 250whp. Here's a summary of my parts list:
T3/T4 T04E 50 Trim (I also have a to4b 60 trim)
Turbonetics Evolution wastegate 38mm
FMIC
OBX Ramhorn (not purchased)
Blitz Super Sound BOV
Chipped P75 ECU
Tuned on Neptune
T3/T4 T04E 50 Trim (I also have a to4b 60 trim)
Turbonetics Evolution wastegate 38mm
FMIC
OBX Ramhorn (not purchased)
Blitz Super Sound BOV
Chipped P75 ECU
Tuned on Neptune
#802
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re: ***Official F22B Turbo Thread***
Don't get that ramhorn. It's junk and it will eventually crack. If you're going to cheap out on a manifold just get an eBay log manifold. Or if you want quality and are willing to spend the extra bucks, go with a spoolinperformance manifold/downpipe combo.
#805
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no-name cast log manifold, I smoothed out the ports/insides before I installed it. No boost creep issues, even with a 2.5 inch downpipe and stock cat. I run 9psi daily. It will spike 11 because of my boost controller then drop to 9 and hold it until 6300.
#807
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btw i got a stock sleeve f22a engine that makes 400hp around 19psi pump gas. i have been running it on 25 psi 110oct with a hx40/hx35 on the street this week. i trap 100mph in the 1/8th on 19psi pump gas tune. i turn it 8500rpms at the track. i beat the crap out of this car when i drive it cpl times a week. cant wait to go back to the track on 25psi
#808
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I'll probably just run a log manifold for now. Also are there any reputable tuners in the south florida area familiar with tuning our f22 turbo setups? Im willing to use whichever software the tuner is most comfortable with
#813
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has anyone ever seen a production downpipe for the f22 cast mani? i got one od the common center wastegate ones and can find a pre made down pipe.............
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As far as "off the shell" downpipes, they make and sell them in some eBay kits. Last I checked they're small though, 2.25 inch. I doubt you'll be able to purchase one separately as I already tried when I was piecing together my setup. Ended up going to an exhaust shop.
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Here's some info for anyone wanting to turbo an F22 in a 94-97 Accord:
You can run your charge pipe behind your stock headlight into your windshield washer reservoir hole. If you get Depo (or possibly JDM Stanley) headlights, they are designed deeper so the hole will be partially blocked. If you don't have ABS, you may be able to just open the hole up more.
Here's my previous setup with OEM headlights and a *slightly* modified Treadstone piping kit. I assume it had to be modified because I didn't use their manifold and/or intercooler.
Anyway, I dug into this yesterday and here's what I came up with:
I ended up just removing the one fan for now until I pick up the other slim one. Plenty of room to put it in once I get it. I had to remove my drivers side tow hook and cut a small square out of my splash guard, but it's running like a champ again and I reinstalled the power steering.
After coming over where the radiator fan will end, it turns straight down and goes out of a 3"x3" hole in the splash guard right next to where the tow hook bolts in.
From there, it does a 90 towards the drivers side of the car (through what used to be the tow hook) then you can see it makes a little U back into the intercooler on the right.
I was thinking about trying to convert to a backdoor intercooler setup, but I'd have to cut some metal. You can see it in the last picture; this route only involved cutting that 3"x3" square out of the splash guard and unbolting the tow hook. Did I mention I did this with scraps of pipe and extra connectors I had around the garage? I had to do a little grinding on some of the welds to get the connectors to fit, but other than that it was pretty painless. Good thing my "Cleaning out the garage" initiative hasn't gotten rid of everything in there.
The 3" down pipe hangs lower than that U, so it's not a limiting factor. That down pipe is pretty well tucked up too, so I don't know how you could go much lower and keep it round. Even mine has some dings and I'm not that low.
Now that it's rerouted, I could possibly put my windshield washer reservoir back in, but I may have thrown out some of the necessary hardware.
You can run your charge pipe behind your stock headlight into your windshield washer reservoir hole. If you get Depo (or possibly JDM Stanley) headlights, they are designed deeper so the hole will be partially blocked. If you don't have ABS, you may be able to just open the hole up more.
Here's my previous setup with OEM headlights and a *slightly* modified Treadstone piping kit. I assume it had to be modified because I didn't use their manifold and/or intercooler.
Anyway, I dug into this yesterday and here's what I came up with:
I ended up just removing the one fan for now until I pick up the other slim one. Plenty of room to put it in once I get it. I had to remove my drivers side tow hook and cut a small square out of my splash guard, but it's running like a champ again and I reinstalled the power steering.
After coming over where the radiator fan will end, it turns straight down and goes out of a 3"x3" hole in the splash guard right next to where the tow hook bolts in.
From there, it does a 90 towards the drivers side of the car (through what used to be the tow hook) then you can see it makes a little U back into the intercooler on the right.
I was thinking about trying to convert to a backdoor intercooler setup, but I'd have to cut some metal. You can see it in the last picture; this route only involved cutting that 3"x3" square out of the splash guard and unbolting the tow hook. Did I mention I did this with scraps of pipe and extra connectors I had around the garage? I had to do a little grinding on some of the welds to get the connectors to fit, but other than that it was pretty painless. Good thing my "Cleaning out the garage" initiative hasn't gotten rid of everything in there.
The 3" down pipe hangs lower than that U, so it's not a limiting factor. That down pipe is pretty well tucked up too, so I don't know how you could go much lower and keep it round. Even mine has some dings and I'm not that low.
Now that it's rerouted, I could possibly put my windshield washer reservoir back in, but I may have thrown out some of the necessary hardware.
Last edited by Andryzzle; 10-14-2012 at 06:23 AM.
#819
re: ***Official F22B Turbo Thread***
I'm also in the process of turning up the boost on my f22 stock sleeved built engine....as of now i'm on about 6lbs at zero degrees timing....my new build has about 300 miles on it.I'll be following this thread to....feel free to come check out my progress on my thread......
https://honda-tech.com/forums/forced-induction-16/f22a-sohc-non-vtec-boost-build-3073061/
https://honda-tech.com/forums/forced-induction-16/f22a-sohc-non-vtec-boost-build-3073061/
#820
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i have no idea how much power i make on my f22a but i trapped 103 in the 1/8th last time at the track. its in a EG civic hatch reving to 8600 rpms
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It is realistic/ possible and has been done.
Just takes the right combination of parts, a capable tuner, good management, etc. In fact probably more is possible but the problem becomes how you can keep a trans and gearset to hold together.
With the lower revving f22b1 your pretty limited to what gear ratio aftermarket straight cut gearsets are available (in fact, only are 2 choices really from what I found) unless you turn the motor a lot more rpm. Most sets are too short of ratios as they are for the higher revving h series on a 24.5 or taller tire.
Just takes the right combination of parts, a capable tuner, good management, etc. In fact probably more is possible but the problem becomes how you can keep a trans and gearset to hold together.
With the lower revving f22b1 your pretty limited to what gear ratio aftermarket straight cut gearsets are available (in fact, only are 2 choices really from what I found) unless you turn the motor a lot more rpm. Most sets are too short of ratios as they are for the higher revving h series on a 24.5 or taller tire.
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#823
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re: ***Official F22B Turbo Thread***
It is realistic/ possible and has been done.
Just takes the right combination of parts, a capable tuner, good management, etc. In fact probably more is possible but the problem becomes how you can keep a trans and gearset to hold together.
With the lower revving f22b1 your pretty limited to what gear ratio aftermarket straight cut gearsets are available (in fact, only are 2 choices really from what I found) unless you turn the motor a lot more rpm. Most sets are too short of ratios as they are for the higher revving h series on a 24.5 or taller tire.
Just takes the right combination of parts, a capable tuner, good management, etc. In fact probably more is possible but the problem becomes how you can keep a trans and gearset to hold together.
With the lower revving f22b1 your pretty limited to what gear ratio aftermarket straight cut gearsets are available (in fact, only are 2 choices really from what I found) unless you turn the motor a lot more rpm. Most sets are too short of ratios as they are for the higher revving h series on a 24.5 or taller tire.
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You wont make it near that before having to worry. Its not the HP, Its the TQ the HP is a product of.
Ask me how I know.
Anyways, for that power on B head. You best be thinking headwork. Alot of it.
When you start searching for threads for gearsets... Guess Ill talk to you then ;O)
Anyways, well see how my set likes 900+ in the spring. It will only see that on the dyno and maybe at the track in 4-5 once or twice
Its already taken 750 Beaten relentlessly on racegas, so on pump and meth making 650-700 on the new setup next year Im sure it will be fine.
Good luck
Ask me how I know.
Anyways, for that power on B head. You best be thinking headwork. Alot of it.
When you start searching for threads for gearsets... Guess Ill talk to you then ;O)
Anyways, well see how my set likes 900+ in the spring. It will only see that on the dyno and maybe at the track in 4-5 once or twice
Its already taken 750 Beaten relentlessly on racegas, so on pump and meth making 650-700 on the new setup next year Im sure it will be fine.
Good luck