ThE HeLLRaZoR

Hey guys got alil crazy and dropped $2500 on the Web Pro Series cams.

Deleting the Vtec was something I was hell bent on doing. I left town for work the day after they arrived and I wont be home for another 5days. So short to say I haven't been sleeping well... I will be updating this Thread throughout the Install and up till the car is running(hoping within a month). I could use feedback.


These pics don't do the Rockers justice. This setup is incredible.

I'm planning on just buying a cheapo summit racing degree kit as that should work fine. Over the past few days I have been going crazy researching how to check all clearances and degree the cams.
From what I have found most cam makers supply a Cam Card with there products. Witch tells you where the Center Lines should be in relation to the degree wheel.
All that came with this setup was a paper "HIGHLY RECOMMENDing me to check clearances and I must Degree the Cams in". That's great and all but, when I find the Center Lines and Lobe Separation Angles etc with Cam Gears zero'd, where do I take them from there??? Why even bother degreeing the cams if i'm not told were to put them? I don't understand this. Or maybe there is something i'm missing?

2nd. Web requires Springs with atleast 85lbs seat Pressure.

My Skunk2 Pro Series setup only has 80lbs seat pressure. Which should be fine I'll just need to check clearances and shim accordingly.
However my plan is to just break in the cams using these springs and then upgrade to skunk2 Extreme Pressure Spring 93lbs Seat Pressure.
I have read alot and am wondering if I shouldn't maybe even take the Inner Spring out and maybe even remove the Windage Tray so more Oil gets to the Head?<Good Idea, Bad Idea or just totally unnecessary?

Also I will ask this question just in case someone who has used cams like this chimes in. I will find the answer to this question when I get home and check clearances regardless. But, do these JE Pistons look compatible with these Cams?
I'm worried the Valve Reliefs may not be deep enough. This has me worried bigtime because I won't be able to afford to replace for sometime.



Please help me with that first question mostly. Where do I degree these cams to?

Also I have Skunk2 Springs/Retainers and Ferrea Valves. I have heard that this is not a good combo? Or atleast that Skunks Keepers shouldn't be used with Ferrea Valves. Any Merit in this?

Sorry if any of my questions are rediculous, I have tons of money tied up in this and don't want to **** this up!!

Rosko

iTrader: (1)

How are you checking seat pressure? Are you actually measuring the installed height yourself or are you just looking at the manufacturers spec? Because you are mixing and matching parts your installed height might be a bit different than what the manufacturer has spec'd out for seat pressure. Not all valves are the same, and neither are retainers.

I would call Web for the info you need to degree the cams, I dont know why they wouldnt be able to give it to you. I've ran into that problem with other manufacturers as well.

tepid1

From WEB

Installation Information

Upon installation of your WEB-CAM camshaft, check the following. These operations are very important to engine life, please follow instructions! If your cam is described as a bolt-in in the WEB-CAM catalog, you may skip 1-5 below.

1. Check piston to valve clearance. Provide the necessary clearance by removing material from the piston Minimum .050" intake, .080" exhaust.
2. Check valve to valve clearance. It may be necessary to remove material from the valves or sink valve seat height in head.
3. Check the valve spring retainer to valve guide clearance at maximum lift. Remove material from the top,of valve guides to provide a minimum of .030" clearance.
4. Check for valve spring coil bind at maximum valve lift. Clearance at every coil should be at least .015"
5. Be certain that cam and/or rocker arms rotate freely in head or block. Remove material from head,block, or rocker arms where necessary.
6. Engine and cam life depend on proper installation. New or reground followers should be used when installing WEB-CAM profiles. Apply the provided assembly lube to cam lobe and follower surfaces.
7. For proper break-in, after installation of a new camshaft, do not allow your engine to idle below 2000 RPM for the first 15 minutes of use.

www.webcamshafts.comAcura Integra (PRO Series) B 18 C (94-01) VTEC DOHC 16v
Part #:
35-402
Grind:
612/595

Valve Lash (Inch):
Intake
.006"
Exhaust
.008"

Valve Lift (Inch):
I 0.530
E 0.510
Valve Lift (mm):
I 13.46
E 12.95
Advertised Duration:
I 280°
E 278°
Duration @ 0.050":
I 260°
E 256°
Lobe Center:
I 110°
E 112°
= 111° Overall

Intake
Opens
20°
Before
TDC

Exhaust
Opens
60°
Before
BDC

Intake
Closes
60°
After
BDC

Exhaust
Closes
16°
After
TDC

Valve Timing Is Checked With Zero Valve Lash
@ 0.050 Inches Of Valve Lift.

ThE HeLLRaZoR

Yea, i'm just going off skunk2 specs. I have a height mike but it wont work with this head. If someone has a part number or method for checking installed height on these heads please let me know. Thanks for those specs. Where did you find them? I called Web and talked to Alex, he was very helpful! I will be home in a few days I can't wait to get home to play with these some more.

tepid1

I use the same cams with JE 10:1 shelf pistons and it's not a problem

ThE HeLLRaZoR

So I completely tore the head down. Except for the Guides. Did a minor port job that I think came out great. I have 3 questions now.

1st. Should I replace the Cam Cap bolts? I have seen problems with 20year old Bolts and have heard that replacements from the dealer aren't much better. On older models they waaay outsource to whoever will make their **** cheapest. Are there any aftermarket cam cap bolts that anyone knows of Grade 10 or better?

2nd. Valve Guides. Does anyone know a good method for removing these things and putting them back in? To get the out do I drive them out towards the combustion chamber. This is my first time working inside of an engine changing/clearances and I don't wan2 **** it up. I honestly have no clue which direction I should be driving these things??

3rd. Measuring Valve installed height. I have not gotten around to working on this as i'm still in the process of teardown, not install. But, i'm out of town working again bored and can't think of how I would do this. Height Mic wont fit, a regular Caliper Micrometer might not be very accurate. The only thing I could think of is, use the bottom side of my Digital Caliper. Measure the Retainer and subtract that from my total. Someone has got to know of a brand of height mic that will work on our Bseries heads...