DA 3 piece front ends
02-28-2012, 07:26 PM
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Re: DA 3 piece front ends
me to lets start the list for deposits sence thats what they want to see!!!put me down for 1 opened grill !!!!!
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03-03-2012, 04:40 AM
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Well don't hold your breath for a Exospeed 
, You would have waaayyyy better luck getting a Strada. ohh and they both fit the same Neither one is just bolt on and go. So at the end of the day I would go with the company that supports and actually makes the front.
, You would have waaayyyy better luck getting a Strada. ohh and they both fit the same Neither one is just bolt on and go. So at the end of the day I would go with the company that supports and actually makes the front.
03-03-2012, 04:50 AM
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desir how do you figure support us lol strada has been in business for like 2 years and exospeed alot longer they will make it but no deposits have been sent i believe strada took deposits already as well and havent finished but kept promising people alot
03-03-2012, 05:19 AM
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Well I don't want to get into it but I was in your same situation and needed something made so I jumped on the Exospeed bandwagon blah blah blah it fit so nice and strada doesn't. So I placed a order with Will and oh man Ive never had such terrible customer service in my life I mean lie's after lie's false tracking #'s misleading emails just stringing me along it went on for 9 months till I finally gave up and checked out the Strada. I compared it to my buddy's Exospeed and its the same, all the seams lined uped great with very little work.
From my personal experience you would more likely get a front from strada wayyyy before Exospeed. I personally haven't come across any of Exospeeds own distributors that when you call for a front don't say oh man Wills unreliable so 2month wait after deposit and that just for a regular advertised front. Ive come to realize alot of the post made in the past about Strada fitment was in the beginning Strada has stepped up big time he went back to the old jojo mold and it looks mean as hell.
Don't believe about the front from Exospeed then give him the deposit and hold your breath. I'll send flowers
From my personal experience you would more likely get a front from strada wayyyy before Exospeed. I personally haven't come across any of Exospeeds own distributors that when you call for a front don't say oh man Wills unreliable so 2month wait after deposit and that just for a regular advertised front. Ive come to realize alot of the post made in the past about Strada fitment was in the beginning Strada has stepped up big time he went back to the old jojo mold and it looks mean as hell.
Don't believe about the front from Exospeed then give him the deposit and hold your breath. I'll send flowers
03-03-2012, 05:24 AM
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lol well i talk to wil on a personal basis so i dont think contact would be too hard but i dont think he will be making it because the ones who wanted it didnt want to send money and wanted the one who finishes first and strada had already began
lol J/K
03-03-2012, 06:47 AM
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Wrong Stanley. No deposits were taken by Jay. I'm the only one that paid for the front. If all of the people that said they wanted the front actually did what I did and put the money up for it, chances are we'd have a front end by now but with only having $700 to show for building a front from scratch, I can see why his motivation isn't that great.
03-03-2012, 08:39 AM
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Well I don't want to get into it but I was in your same situation and needed something made so I jumped on the Exospeed bandwagon blah blah blah it fit so nice and strada doesn't. So I placed a order with Will and oh man Ive never had such terrible customer service in my life I mean lie's after lie's false tracking #'s misleading emails just stringing me along it went on for 9 months till I finally gave up and checked out the Strada. I compared it to my buddy's Exospeed and its the same, all the seams lined uped great with very little work.
From my personal experience you would more likely get a front from strada wayyyy before Exospeed. I personally haven't come across any of Exospeeds own distributors that when you call for a front don't say oh man Wills unreliable so 2month wait after deposit and that just for a regular advertised front. Ive come to realize alot of the post made in the past about Strada fitment was in the beginning Strada has stepped up big time he went back to the old jojo mold and it looks mean as hell.
Don't believe about the front from Exospeed then give him the deposit and hold your breath. I'll send flowers
From my personal experience you would more likely get a front from strada wayyyy before Exospeed. I personally haven't come across any of Exospeeds own distributors that when you call for a front don't say oh man Wills unreliable so 2month wait after deposit and that just for a regular advertised front. Ive come to realize alot of the post made in the past about Strada fitment was in the beginning Strada has stepped up big time he went back to the old jojo mold and it looks mean as hell.
Don't believe about the front from Exospeed then give him the deposit and hold your breath. I'll send flowers
Lets go back to the whole story:
July/Aug 2011 or so, you contact me and wanting a closed EK front. I said I dont have it. You begged and begged, for us to do it. I said we'll get to it when we are ready and the need is there. You didnt pay for anything, I didnt ask for a deposit. I just said when its done you can order it. False tracking numbers? Dude you didnt even order anything. We didnt even make a closed EK, so why would I even take your order?
Oct comes and you ask again. I said it will be ready sometime in Dec. We finished early dec but we were already booked for our production schedule and we couldnt make that kit before we shut down for the holidays. So on Dec 31 or Jan 1, 2012 I emailed you about it. We exchanged emails and you were gung ho about it.
Jan 26th or so, you put up a thread about us not making it. When CLEARLY you got the email on Jan 1-2 that we had already talked about it. So there is another thing you got the facts wrong when I already discussed with you about it 4 weeks prior. So on Jan 27th or so you ordered it from a dealer of ours during the weekend and you were persistent in getting this Fast to you. I said ok, we'll make it happen. I believe we got the actual order on Jan 30th or 31st. after the weekend.
I dont recall exact date but it was around Feb 15-16th or so that we shipped it out. Now you know that there was a shipping mistake by the freight company. The included your box with our shipment to one of the shops in WA. It was an unfortunate mistake but not on our part. We figured all that out around the 24th and it was scheduled to pick up later that week. Got it all rescheduled to ship the following week towards NJ. It suppose to arrive to NJ on the 12/13th.
Yes we know we have a big waiting list. We have about 80 orders already since the beginning of the year. We've knocked out about 60 of those and we get 10-12 orders added every week. We've made alot of progress and change on our production since the beginning of the year. You're right, theres a possibility you may get one from the other guy faster, so take that chance if you want. But I'm saying in advance, we're busier than ever. We already have as much orders as we did by May last year. So thats just the nature of the beast and we're dealing with production changes and adapting to them to the best that we can.
Also the ORIGINAL JCR molds are owned by me. I paid for the balance that was owed in owing that mold from JCR to help the guy get paid. I never had the intention to market those kits as I'd rather sell our own Original kits. So if someone is saying they own those molds. Then why would I have JCR molds just to have. That would be dumb to invest in something I have no intention of using. So any look alike kit out there is a copy and not the ORIGINAL mold. Its a replica. That being said. I mind my own business and I dont care about another company trying to do the same thing. I will never BAD mouth anyone for personal gain. At the end of the day, its another person trying to put food on the table for their families. If they do things intentionally to say bad things about me, then thats on their conscience and not mine. I will not stoop to that level. I'm not that type of person.
I really dont like to get in these threads anymore since its the same back and forth and it never goes anywhere with this DA kit. I just had to step in to clear up the TOTALLY false claims Desir made on his statements. Come on man, you know thats not even true. Why make up stuff.
Desir.. we're done man. You are not getting our front end kit that is on its way from WA. You have your money as it was returned to you already a week or so ago by that dealer. Please go to the other guy and just order from them. I'm sure they'll gladly have you as a customer since you're easy to deal with and straight forward.. Please. Please Go to them. . I'm not perfect bro but I dont think I have been unreasonable with our dealings. Its unfortunate there was a shipping mistake but it wasnt our control. Best of luck to your build and hope you get your front end situated with the other place.
03-03-2012, 10:02 AM
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Woah woah, come on Eddie, dont bend the truth on this one man.
Lets go back to the whole story:
July/Aug 2011 or so, you contact me and wanting a closed EK front. I said I dont have it. You begged and begged, for us to do it. I said we'll get to it when we are ready and the need is there. You didnt pay for anything, I didnt ask for a deposit. I just said when its done you can order it. False tracking numbers? Dude you didnt even order anything. We didnt even make a closed EK, so why would I even take your order?
Oct comes and you ask again. I said it will be ready sometime in Dec. We finished early dec but we were already booked for our production schedule and we couldnt make that kit before we shut down for the holidays. So on Dec 31 or Jan 1, 2012 I emailed you about it. We exchanged emails and you were gung ho about it.
Jan 26th or so, you put up a thread about us not making it. When CLEARLY you got the email on Jan 1-2 that we had already talked about it. So there is another thing you got the facts wrong when I already discussed with you about it 4 weeks prior. So on Jan 27th or so you ordered it from a dealer of ours during the weekend and you were persistent in getting this Fast to you. I said ok, we'll make it happen. I believe we got the actual order on Jan 30th or 31st. after the weekend.
I dont recall exact date but it was around Feb 15-16th or so that we shipped it out. Now you know that there was a shipping mistake by the freight company. The included your box with our shipment to one of the shops in WA. It was an unfortunate mistake but not on our part. We figured all that out around the 24th and it was scheduled to pick up later that week. Got it all rescheduled to ship the following week towards NJ. It suppose to arrive to NJ on the 12/13th.
Yes we know we have a big waiting list. We have about 80 orders already since the beginning of the year. We've knocked out about 60 of those and we get 10-12 orders added every week. We've made alot of progress and change on our production since the beginning of the year. You're right, theres a possibility you may get one from the other guy faster, so take that chance if you want. But I'm saying in advance, we're busier than ever. We already have as much orders as we did by May last year. So thats just the nature of the beast and we're dealing with production changes and adapting to them to the best that we can.
Also the ORIGINAL JCR molds are owned by me. I paid for the balance that was owed in owing that mold from JCR to help the guy get paid. I never had the intention to market those kits as I'd rather sell our own Original kits. So if someone is saying they own those molds. Then why would I have JCR molds just to have. That would be dumb to invest in something I have no intention of using. So any look alike kit out there is a copy and not the ORIGINAL mold. Its a replica. That being said. I mind my own business and I dont care about another company trying to do the same thing. I will never BAD mouth anyone for personal gain. At the end of the day, its another person trying to put food on the table for their families. If they do things intentionally to say bad things about me, then thats on their conscience and not mine. I will not stoop to that level. I'm not that type of person.
I really dont like to get in these threads anymore since its the same back and forth and it never goes anywhere with this DA kit. I just had to step in to clear up the TOTALLY false claims Desir made on his statements. Come on man, you know thats not even true. Why make up stuff.
Desir.. we're done man. You are not getting our front end kit that is on its way from WA. You have your money as it was returned to you already a week or so ago by that dealer. Please go to the other guy and just order from them. I'm sure they'll gladly have you as a customer since you're easy to deal with and straight forward.. Please. Please Go to them. . I'm not perfect bro but I dont think I have been unreasonable with our dealings. Its unfortunate there was a shipping mistake but it wasnt our control. Best of luck to your build and hope you get your front end situated with the other place.
Lets go back to the whole story:
July/Aug 2011 or so, you contact me and wanting a closed EK front. I said I dont have it. You begged and begged, for us to do it. I said we'll get to it when we are ready and the need is there. You didnt pay for anything, I didnt ask for a deposit. I just said when its done you can order it. False tracking numbers? Dude you didnt even order anything. We didnt even make a closed EK, so why would I even take your order?
Oct comes and you ask again. I said it will be ready sometime in Dec. We finished early dec but we were already booked for our production schedule and we couldnt make that kit before we shut down for the holidays. So on Dec 31 or Jan 1, 2012 I emailed you about it. We exchanged emails and you were gung ho about it.
Jan 26th or so, you put up a thread about us not making it. When CLEARLY you got the email on Jan 1-2 that we had already talked about it. So there is another thing you got the facts wrong when I already discussed with you about it 4 weeks prior. So on Jan 27th or so you ordered it from a dealer of ours during the weekend and you were persistent in getting this Fast to you. I said ok, we'll make it happen. I believe we got the actual order on Jan 30th or 31st. after the weekend.
I dont recall exact date but it was around Feb 15-16th or so that we shipped it out. Now you know that there was a shipping mistake by the freight company. The included your box with our shipment to one of the shops in WA. It was an unfortunate mistake but not on our part. We figured all that out around the 24th and it was scheduled to pick up later that week. Got it all rescheduled to ship the following week towards NJ. It suppose to arrive to NJ on the 12/13th.
Yes we know we have a big waiting list. We have about 80 orders already since the beginning of the year. We've knocked out about 60 of those and we get 10-12 orders added every week. We've made alot of progress and change on our production since the beginning of the year. You're right, theres a possibility you may get one from the other guy faster, so take that chance if you want. But I'm saying in advance, we're busier than ever. We already have as much orders as we did by May last year. So thats just the nature of the beast and we're dealing with production changes and adapting to them to the best that we can.
Also the ORIGINAL JCR molds are owned by me. I paid for the balance that was owed in owing that mold from JCR to help the guy get paid. I never had the intention to market those kits as I'd rather sell our own Original kits. So if someone is saying they own those molds. Then why would I have JCR molds just to have. That would be dumb to invest in something I have no intention of using. So any look alike kit out there is a copy and not the ORIGINAL mold. Its a replica. That being said. I mind my own business and I dont care about another company trying to do the same thing. I will never BAD mouth anyone for personal gain. At the end of the day, its another person trying to put food on the table for their families. If they do things intentionally to say bad things about me, then thats on their conscience and not mine. I will not stoop to that level. I'm not that type of person.
I really dont like to get in these threads anymore since its the same back and forth and it never goes anywhere with this DA kit. I just had to step in to clear up the TOTALLY false claims Desir made on his statements. Come on man, you know thats not even true. Why make up stuff.
Desir.. we're done man. You are not getting our front end kit that is on its way from WA. You have your money as it was returned to you already a week or so ago by that dealer. Please go to the other guy and just order from them. I'm sure they'll gladly have you as a customer since you're easy to deal with and straight forward.. Please. Please Go to them. . I'm not perfect bro but I dont think I have been unreasonable with our dealings. Its unfortunate there was a shipping mistake but it wasnt our control. Best of luck to your build and hope you get your front end situated with the other place.
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First of all Will your a Liar and a crook, I never begged you to make ****, when I called you back in June I asked why isn't there a closed Ek front and you said there isn't a market for it, after a long conversation which ended very cool you agreed to make the front, you said it would be ready in about a month. Cool one month went by and I spoke to you and you feed me bs about oh its almost ready i need another month cool called you again and more bs so I said F***k it Im not gonna make to the fall nat cause I don't have a front so month's went by and I ended up making a post about getting Strada front and you immediately pmed me oh Eddie I made that front for you Its ready just pay my distributor and Ill ship it asap. I paid and you jerked me around for months and I got Emails backing my proof buddy. If you weren't getting high on that cali **** all the time maybe you'd fill people orders, almost every time i spoke to you you were choking on something 
. At the end of the day I did spend my hard earned money elsewhere and I'm glad I did.
You see little ***** it's scum bags like you that ruin this sport you think cause once in a while you come on here and talk about wheels and sell your front's that your giving back? please it's people that spends their money and guys that make products and deliver is who keeps this sport going. To me your no better than jojo or a fly by nite company. I'm glad that Strada, Frank threw there hat into the frontend making business cause when you were the only one if we wanted a front we had to put up with your bs, now we have choices.
You can come on here and play the people are trying to feed there families card Will you don't give a damn about your customers and your customer service shows Iv'e never dealt with a company like Exospeed before you talk a good one and your a fantastic liar hell you strung me along for 9 months. I got over 30k into my car and I don't make any parts so obviously I'm spending money with different shops and helping them put food on their table you'd be the first to say that Im difficult to deal with I call order pay. So Im giving back WHAT ARE YOU DOING.
. At the end of the day I did spend my hard earned money elsewhere and I'm glad I did. You see little ***** it's scum bags like you that ruin this sport you think cause once in a while you come on here and talk about wheels and sell your front's that your giving back? please it's people that spends their money and guys that make products and deliver is who keeps this sport going. To me your no better than jojo or a fly by nite company. I'm glad that Strada, Frank threw there hat into the frontend making business cause when you were the only one if we wanted a front we had to put up with your bs, now we have choices.
You can come on here and play the people are trying to feed there families card Will you don't give a damn about your customers and your customer service shows Iv'e never dealt with a company like Exospeed before you talk a good one and your a fantastic liar hell you strung me along for 9 months. I got over 30k into my car and I don't make any parts so obviously I'm spending money with different shops and helping them put food on their table you'd be the first to say that Im difficult to deal with I call order pay. So Im giving back WHAT ARE YOU DOING.
03-03-2012, 05:14 PM
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First of all, its not cool to slander to defame my character. You're implying things that are based on assumptions and MAKING stuff up. I shouldnt have to defend myself about lies that you make up.
1. I've never done drugs in my life. I've never even smoked a cigarette ever. In fact to give you a sample of how I live my life. I'm a Seventh Day Adventist and attend church on Saturdays. My family/kids are active in many church activities on Saturdays and even on Sundays so thats what I do other than this car stuff. I personally dont believe drugs need to be part of my life but I'm not going to judge others if thats their choice. Call me a prude if thats not what I'm into, but hey thats what I am and I'm proud of that.
So please don't make up stuff just to try to make me look bad. That's not cool man.
2. The last 5 weeks I've had this crazy cough I couldnt shake off and I would get cough attacks after speaking for a long time or doing heavy activities. So when I spoke to you that one time, I was dealing with that. I just finally went to the doctor on Thursday and I found out that I have some mild Asthma related issues. So no, I havent been smoking anything as you Implied. I'll bet your car on a drug test that I'm 100% drug free. So again, it would be a better conversation if you didnt imply any false statements to try to prove me wrong.
To go back to the other facts. You never paid me for an order EVER. I said we are working on a Closed EK kit which I told you was in the works but it wasnt something we had prioritized and we were eventually have it ready in the Fall/Winter of 2011. You were mad at me for not making the closed EK kit but dont blame us just because we didnt make it yet. You have to do your math again since you contacted me I believe in Late June so when I got back to you that it was done it was end of Dec so that is only 6 months not 9 that you are implying. Also when I told you that time on the New Year you didnt jump on it as I already told you it was available. So technically you totally forgot about our email conversation and put up the thread about 1 month later asking about it. So negate that 1 month there since that doesnt count.
So really once you paid, we're only actually 4 weeks including 1 week of freight and another 1 week of another freight because of the shipping error. Plus a few days of scheduling the freight pick up from Speedfactory. I made a date error on the last post. The front end will be in NJ on March 6th. So from Feb 1 of when I actually started the order to March 6, including all the boo boos that occured, I would say its not UNreasonable with what we're working with.
Also there's plenty of guys that want the DA kit, but just because we havent made it, doesnt mean we're bad people for not having the funds to invest in that kit and hope we get a return in our investment. You can't put all the blame on me because of this bumper as you have been implying. If the bumper was the only thing holding you back in getting the car done and finalizing the welding on the intercooler, etc. I would say its possible to have the car ready within the next 3-4 weeks to dyno and test, and attend Honda Day on April 14/15th. I'd fly out there to personally apologize for delaying your build and really causing the delay on finishing the car since I first spoke to you in June 2011.
At the end of the day, making new applications requires money. Its investment on man hours and materials. If it was that easy to just make something right away, we would have every application out there already available. It took us 2 years to get ORIGINAL kits we made from scratch that are own Front ends and Not copied or modified from another kit. It takes a return on your investment to justify making a product that would yield a return on what we put into it.
When you finally paid on Jan 27th, 2012. Product shipped about 2 weeks after that. Like I said in the previous post, its unfortunate we had to go through some shipment delays that was caused by the freight company. I wish it didnt happen that way but it did and I corrected it as soon as we found out. Speedfactory can attest to the mistake as they received their stuff and there was another additional box along with it that they were surprised to get. Only when they received that did I finally found out something was wrong. The freight company had made a mistake on sending a box intended for another batch of shipments to their location.
I said the comment about feeding families to refer to other companies that would bash you to help bring themselves up. What I meant was I would never bash those guys since it wouldnt be the right thing to do. I would never do that since I rather let our product speak for itself if people really want it or not. For others to do that as their marketing strategy to gain sales, to me is a cowardly act. I'm just saying if they chose to do that, then let them be. That shows their character and the public can judge for themselves if thats who they want to deal with.
We're done Eddie. Unfortunately it didnt work out man. I've never blamed you or been mad at you at all. As you know I was hoping things would have been smoother but thats just the way it went. I honestly dont have negative feelings about you other than your implied false claims about me. Like I said, best of luck with you with who you work with. I'm no gift or savior to the racing community man. I dont ever claim I'm the only choice in this industry. If someone else wants to try to do what we do, its a free country and its their choice to do so. I do what I do because I like doing it. Can I say has it always been perfect? No, I have my ups and downs in life and in business. I wish it was easier and there were no stress to deal with but thats business and life right? I've never claimed to say we're the only choice. There are others out there that can do the same work for you. When someone comes to us, I appreciate that and we work hard to provide something to the best quality and to our ability. If they choose someone else, I'm not making a big deal out of it since there will be some that are not into what we do. I'm not making millions out of this man. And many of the fellow small business owners in this industry are in the same boat.
We can go back and forth on this or just move on. If you dont like what I stand for and what I've done to you, then lets move on. You already have your other choices and go with that.
This thread totally went the wrong direction. LOL. Regarding the DA front end. Man, just go with the other manufacturer guys. Apparently someone has already paid for it to get done. Since its paid for, it should already be available soon and you guys can just got with that.
1. I've never done drugs in my life. I've never even smoked a cigarette ever. In fact to give you a sample of how I live my life. I'm a Seventh Day Adventist and attend church on Saturdays. My family/kids are active in many church activities on Saturdays and even on Sundays so thats what I do other than this car stuff. I personally dont believe drugs need to be part of my life but I'm not going to judge others if thats their choice. Call me a prude if thats not what I'm into, but hey thats what I am and I'm proud of that.
So please don't make up stuff just to try to make me look bad. That's not cool man.
2. The last 5 weeks I've had this crazy cough I couldnt shake off and I would get cough attacks after speaking for a long time or doing heavy activities. So when I spoke to you that one time, I was dealing with that. I just finally went to the doctor on Thursday and I found out that I have some mild Asthma related issues. So no, I havent been smoking anything as you Implied. I'll bet your car on a drug test that I'm 100% drug free. So again, it would be a better conversation if you didnt imply any false statements to try to prove me wrong.
To go back to the other facts. You never paid me for an order EVER. I said we are working on a Closed EK kit which I told you was in the works but it wasnt something we had prioritized and we were eventually have it ready in the Fall/Winter of 2011. You were mad at me for not making the closed EK kit but dont blame us just because we didnt make it yet. You have to do your math again since you contacted me I believe in Late June so when I got back to you that it was done it was end of Dec so that is only 6 months not 9 that you are implying. Also when I told you that time on the New Year you didnt jump on it as I already told you it was available. So technically you totally forgot about our email conversation and put up the thread about 1 month later asking about it. So negate that 1 month there since that doesnt count.
So really once you paid, we're only actually 4 weeks including 1 week of freight and another 1 week of another freight because of the shipping error. Plus a few days of scheduling the freight pick up from Speedfactory. I made a date error on the last post. The front end will be in NJ on March 6th. So from Feb 1 of when I actually started the order to March 6, including all the boo boos that occured, I would say its not UNreasonable with what we're working with.
Also there's plenty of guys that want the DA kit, but just because we havent made it, doesnt mean we're bad people for not having the funds to invest in that kit and hope we get a return in our investment. You can't put all the blame on me because of this bumper as you have been implying. If the bumper was the only thing holding you back in getting the car done and finalizing the welding on the intercooler, etc. I would say its possible to have the car ready within the next 3-4 weeks to dyno and test, and attend Honda Day on April 14/15th. I'd fly out there to personally apologize for delaying your build and really causing the delay on finishing the car since I first spoke to you in June 2011.
At the end of the day, making new applications requires money. Its investment on man hours and materials. If it was that easy to just make something right away, we would have every application out there already available. It took us 2 years to get ORIGINAL kits we made from scratch that are own Front ends and Not copied or modified from another kit. It takes a return on your investment to justify making a product that would yield a return on what we put into it.
When you finally paid on Jan 27th, 2012. Product shipped about 2 weeks after that. Like I said in the previous post, its unfortunate we had to go through some shipment delays that was caused by the freight company. I wish it didnt happen that way but it did and I corrected it as soon as we found out. Speedfactory can attest to the mistake as they received their stuff and there was another additional box along with it that they were surprised to get. Only when they received that did I finally found out something was wrong. The freight company had made a mistake on sending a box intended for another batch of shipments to their location.
I said the comment about feeding families to refer to other companies that would bash you to help bring themselves up. What I meant was I would never bash those guys since it wouldnt be the right thing to do. I would never do that since I rather let our product speak for itself if people really want it or not. For others to do that as their marketing strategy to gain sales, to me is a cowardly act. I'm just saying if they chose to do that, then let them be. That shows their character and the public can judge for themselves if thats who they want to deal with.
We're done Eddie. Unfortunately it didnt work out man. I've never blamed you or been mad at you at all. As you know I was hoping things would have been smoother but thats just the way it went. I honestly dont have negative feelings about you other than your implied false claims about me. Like I said, best of luck with you with who you work with. I'm no gift or savior to the racing community man. I dont ever claim I'm the only choice in this industry. If someone else wants to try to do what we do, its a free country and its their choice to do so. I do what I do because I like doing it. Can I say has it always been perfect? No, I have my ups and downs in life and in business. I wish it was easier and there were no stress to deal with but thats business and life right? I've never claimed to say we're the only choice. There are others out there that can do the same work for you. When someone comes to us, I appreciate that and we work hard to provide something to the best quality and to our ability. If they choose someone else, I'm not making a big deal out of it since there will be some that are not into what we do. I'm not making millions out of this man. And many of the fellow small business owners in this industry are in the same boat.
We can go back and forth on this or just move on. If you dont like what I stand for and what I've done to you, then lets move on. You already have your other choices and go with that.
This thread totally went the wrong direction. LOL. Regarding the DA front end. Man, just go with the other manufacturer guys. Apparently someone has already paid for it to get done. Since its paid for, it should already be available soon and you guys can just got with that.
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Will you can say what you want, your just here to cover your *** if you really go to church then shame on you for being the way you are. Of Course you'll say that people will read this and and judge for themselves I know i'm coming off disrespectful and hostile I'm the victim and my words show my anger. At the end of the day you screwed me over and a few other people on this board if you google it a few threads will come up. At the end of the day thank god I got my money back but Ill never get back my time that you stole from me with your lies.
I not gonna sit here and say Exospeed front ends aren't a good product. Just the wrong person selling them.
I not gonna sit here and say Exospeed front ends aren't a good product. Just the wrong person selling them.
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And again Will I have all the Email and Pm's dating back to June 2011, Keep lying and trying to cover your *** and Ill post all of them, the lies, false promises and just stringing me along. Then the public will really see the real person behind Exospeed. Answer me this if you were so call helping me out and just a little backed up then why is it 9 months later and i never got a front? Cause your just a plain LIAR and your lying to these people. Damage control.
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I'm just telling the truth of what I really am cause you're implying I'm a drug partaking lowlife which I am not. If I implied you are one as well, of course you're going to want to clear up what you really are. Who wouldnt want to be defamed that way.
Like I said, I have my ups and downs and I'm sure you have yours too. At the end of the day, I try to do what to make things right. I'm here facing the issue . Does that make me evil?
My thing was, you didnt have to come off as hostile and disrespectful. You brought in the whole smoking and all that. I've spoken man to man about you on this and I've never been disrespectful of you. I dont think I've been unreasonable with making this work the last 4 weeks.
I know youre just a guy eager to get a part. Thats how we all are when we're getting parts for our car. I'm sure youre a decent guy Eddie. This just went off to a direction that it should have. Like I said, you just didnt need to make false claims. I have no ill feelings towards you.. I can get past the stuff you said. I'll still fist bump you when I do go out there for a race this year. Maybe give me some motivation to get out there to line up against you with our car later this year.
Like I said, I have my ups and downs and I'm sure you have yours too. At the end of the day, I try to do what to make things right. I'm here facing the issue . Does that make me evil?
My thing was, you didnt have to come off as hostile and disrespectful. You brought in the whole smoking and all that. I've spoken man to man about you on this and I've never been disrespectful of you. I dont think I've been unreasonable with making this work the last 4 weeks.
I know youre just a guy eager to get a part. Thats how we all are when we're getting parts for our car. I'm sure youre a decent guy Eddie. This just went off to a direction that it should have. Like I said, you just didnt need to make false claims. I have no ill feelings towards you.. I can get past the stuff you said. I'll still fist bump you when I do go out there for a race this year. Maybe give me some motivation to get out there to line up against you with our car later this year.
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Check your Jan 1-2, 2012 emails again on the availability of the kit. Then check the HT thread on Jan 26th posting on why you said we havent made the kit yet.
The "9" months you said you were waiting is because we didnt have that application available. At least do your math right. June 2011 to Jan1, 2012 is at most 7 months. You didnt pay to get one done, you didnt put a deposit. So therefore it doesnt exist and wasnt ready for sale the whole 2011.
The first closed kits were shipped out and in peoples hands Mid december/beginning January. And there are half a dozen that paid and ordered and they got them as soon as it was available.
You can't be mad at Acura for not having a 2nd Gen NSX for so long. They promised to have the new NSX back 3-4 years ago. then they scrapped that project. Am I going to be mad at Acura for not releasing it sooner? I wanted one after they discontinued it, but I can't blame them for not making it yet. I'm sure there were production costs and investment to make that product. They told the public it will be released soon and the project was scrapped. You're doing the same thing to me right now. You're mad since you were waiting on something that you didnt fund to get done. So just like the new Acura NSX, we just have to wait until its ready. Same thing for you man. You just had to wait until it was ready. Until then, there was the open kit which you could have closed off on your own.
The "9" months you said you were waiting is because we didnt have that application available. At least do your math right. June 2011 to Jan1, 2012 is at most 7 months. You didnt pay to get one done, you didnt put a deposit. So therefore it doesnt exist and wasnt ready for sale the whole 2011.
The first closed kits were shipped out and in peoples hands Mid december/beginning January. And there are half a dozen that paid and ordered and they got them as soon as it was available.
You can't be mad at Acura for not having a 2nd Gen NSX for so long. They promised to have the new NSX back 3-4 years ago. then they scrapped that project. Am I going to be mad at Acura for not releasing it sooner? I wanted one after they discontinued it, but I can't blame them for not making it yet. I'm sure there were production costs and investment to make that product. They told the public it will be released soon and the project was scrapped. You're doing the same thing to me right now. You're mad since you were waiting on something that you didnt fund to get done. So just like the new Acura NSX, we just have to wait until its ready. Same thing for you man. You just had to wait until it was ready. Until then, there was the open kit which you could have closed off on your own.