remote starter on manual cars
10-23-2001, 02:15 PM
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remote starter on manual cars
can anyone offer expert advise on how the wiring should be for remote starts? is there a certain wire i should tap into besides ignition for the remote starter, since the clutch usually have to be depressed for car to start?
10-23-2001, 04:25 PM
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Re: remote starter on manual cars (Stony TSi)
IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP OF THE CLUTCH PEDAL THERE IS A WIRE THAT IS CONNECTED TO A SWITCH THAT GETS PRESSED IN WHEN YOU PRESS IN THE CLUTCH . YOU HAVE TO DISCONNECT THIS WIRE AND GROUND IT TO ALRAM .READ THE WIRING ON THE ALARM AND IT SHOULD TELL YOU 
10-23-2001, 07:15 PM
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Re: remote starter on manual cars (LS CRIX)
there is two harness hooked up to the clutch. there is one on the bottom and on way far top.. take out the harness that is connect on the top which has two wires. connect those two together and and leave it as it is..
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10-24-2001, 04:38 AM
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Re: remote starter on manual cars (Teken)
i agree with teken....only use a unit designed to be used with a manual transmission (i.e. clifford, DEI). also, you can perform the installation successfully without disconnecting any of the car's factory wires.
the reason why most cars cannot start without depressing the clutch is because of a built-in starter-kill relay. by depressing the clutch, the relay closes and you can start your car. wiring in a remote-start in this case is pretty straightfoward. you would either wire that starter connections before the relay or use one of the remote starter's outputs to trigger the relay which would simulate the clutch being depressed.
Stony TSi, you've posted before with questions concerning your new alarm system but i don't think you've mentioned what kind of system it is (i've asked a couple of times, lol). i'd like to know so i can offer more help but if you don't want people to know what alarm you have that's cool. just make sure you follow all of the safety guidelines in your manuals.
the reason why most cars cannot start without depressing the clutch is because of a built-in starter-kill relay. by depressing the clutch, the relay closes and you can start your car. wiring in a remote-start in this case is pretty straightfoward. you would either wire that starter connections before the relay or use one of the remote starter's outputs to trigger the relay which would simulate the clutch being depressed.
Stony TSi, you've posted before with questions concerning your new alarm system but i don't think you've mentioned what kind of system it is (i've asked a couple of times, lol). i'd like to know so i can offer more help but if you don't want people to know what alarm you have that's cool. just make sure you follow all of the safety guidelines in your manuals.
10-24-2001, 04:50 PM
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Re: remote starter on manual cars (HondaDriver4Life)
oh it's a LCD pager alarm.. i really don't know what brand it is, (i dont' even think there is one!) bought it from ebay for $150... u noe the one w/ the picture on the pager of a lil car, and the alarm claims it has a radius up to 1000 ft?
here's a pic:
right now i have an Autopage alarm w/ remote starter.. the problem is that I dunno what I did, the car won't start w/ the key anymore, whehter i press down clutch or not. It only starts w/ a remote starter (i am so screwed once it runs outta batterY), so i'm planning on switching the LCD pager alarm and taking out the Autopage.
I looked at the wiring diagram for both alarms and pretty much most of them match, and i really don't wanna pay $100+ for installation.
thanks for all the advises so far guys.. anymore advises would be greatly appreciated
oh i got the wiring diagram
[Modified by Stony TSi, 9:10 PM 10/24/2001]
[Modified by Stony TSi, 9:46 PM 10/24/2001]
here's a pic:
right now i have an Autopage alarm w/ remote starter.. the problem is that I dunno what I did, the car won't start w/ the key anymore, whehter i press down clutch or not. It only starts w/ a remote starter (i am so screwed once it runs outta batterY), so i'm planning on switching the LCD pager alarm and taking out the Autopage.
I looked at the wiring diagram for both alarms and pretty much most of them match, and i really don't wanna pay $100+ for installation.
thanks for all the advises so far guys.. anymore advises would be greatly appreciated
oh i got the wiring diagram
[Modified by Stony TSi, 9:10 PM 10/24/2001]
[Modified by Stony TSi, 9:46 PM 10/24/2001]
10-25-2001, 04:33 AM
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Re: remote starter on manual cars (Stony TSi)
was everything working fine before you started the new installation??
there's a few possiblities here.....the starter-kill relay of the autopage system might be configured for normally-open operation. this means that the relay's contacts stay open (starter is disabled) unless the alarm brain is sending a signal to close its contacts so that the car can start.
is the autopage system integrated or are the brain and remote-start units separate pieces?? if they are separate and the alarm brain is unplugged, the starter-kill relay (if set for normally-open) will follow the scenario described above. if this is true, the reason why your remote-start works is because the original installer probably tapped into wires before the starter-kill relay. but since the ignition is wired after the relay, the car won't start.
a quick test....if you haven't disconnected the wires for the autopage system, plug the brain back in and see if the car starts with the key. if it does, the relay is most likely the culprit.
i've got some other things to look at but let's see how this goes first.
there's a few possiblities here.....the starter-kill relay of the autopage system might be configured for normally-open operation. this means that the relay's contacts stay open (starter is disabled) unless the alarm brain is sending a signal to close its contacts so that the car can start.
is the autopage system integrated or are the brain and remote-start units separate pieces?? if they are separate and the alarm brain is unplugged, the starter-kill relay (if set for normally-open) will follow the scenario described above. if this is true, the reason why your remote-start works is because the original installer probably tapped into wires before the starter-kill relay. but since the ignition is wired after the relay, the car won't start.
a quick test....if you haven't disconnected the wires for the autopage system, plug the brain back in and see if the car starts with the key. if it does, the relay is most likely the culprit.
i've got some other things to look at but let's see how this goes first.
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Re: remote starter on manual cars (HondaDriver4Life)
nope, i haven't even started my new installation yet.. car not starting w/ key is mainly the reason i bought my new alarm.. i already tried unplugging parts of the wires from my autopage, still no luck.. it really looks like somewhere there's an ignition or starter kill that wouldn't disable itself.... i'm planning on looking to play around w/ the clutch wires that disables the starter... any other ideas?
was everything working fine before you started the new installation??
there's a few possiblities here.....the starter-kill relay of the autopage system might be configured for normally-open operation. this means that the relay's contacts stay open (starter is disabled) unless the alarm brain is sending a signal to close its contacts so that the car can start.
is the autopage system integrated or are the brain and remote-start units separate pieces?? if they are separate and the alarm brain is unplugged, the starter-kill relay (if set for normally-open) will follow the scenario described above. if this is true, the reason why your remote-start works is because the original installer probably tapped into wires before the starter-kill relay. but since the ignition is wired after the relay, the car won't start.
a quick test....if you haven't disconnected the wires for the autopage system, plug the brain back in and see if the car starts with the key. if it does, the relay is most likely the culprit.
i've got some other things to look at but let's see how this goes first.
there's a few possiblities here.....the starter-kill relay of the autopage system might be configured for normally-open operation. this means that the relay's contacts stay open (starter is disabled) unless the alarm brain is sending a signal to close its contacts so that the car can start.
is the autopage system integrated or are the brain and remote-start units separate pieces?? if they are separate and the alarm brain is unplugged, the starter-kill relay (if set for normally-open) will follow the scenario described above. if this is true, the reason why your remote-start works is because the original installer probably tapped into wires before the starter-kill relay. but since the ignition is wired after the relay, the car won't start.
a quick test....if you haven't disconnected the wires for the autopage system, plug the brain back in and see if the car starts with the key. if it does, the relay is most likely the culprit.
i've got some other things to look at but let's see how this goes first.
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10-29-2001, 03:02 PM
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Re: remote starter on manual cars (Stony TSi)
You should be able to totally disconnect the remote start and have the car start. This will tell you wether it's in the remote start or in the car. A place to start...
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