CrazyModGSR

Just wondering from anyone that has used either or both of these speakers which they prefer and why? I had some type S's in my Jeep which sounded great, but I haven't heard the type r's. or maybe I could do the s's in the front and the r's in the rear. any suggestions? I am just looking for a low budget bs setup for now (no more than $150 total for both sets of speakers)

White Smoke

I run the R subs and love them, I've never used the S's but I know they don't support as much power as the R's.

ITR010342

I've got the Type S in the front of my Type R and I am planning to put the Type R in the rear. The Type R has higher bass capabilities than the Type S. Both are great speakers though! I love Alpine speakers...

fcm

The Type S speaker is Alpines "entry level speaker" continuous power handling is no more then 50W (RMS).
The Type R speaker is one step up, [a much better speaker IMO] and continuous power handling is 100W (RMS) 110W (RMS) for the 2way components.

If you do anything, put the Type R up front and the Type S in the rear, and if you want any kind of front stage, disable the tweeters on the rear speakers. 94

CivicPride97

I say if you want a decent system go with the type S. If you go with the type R then i would advise you to get a 4 channel amp to go with it because they sound way better when amped then when you just put them in there. Plus if you do get the type R and dont use an amp then your loosing power to them and may end up having them go bad because your headunit isnt strong enough to power the type Rs. to make things short if you want a decent system without amp go with Type s if you want a hard hit system go with type r with amp. Trust me ive done so many installs with these speakers (used to work at best buy installation bay) that i can tell you for a fact the type of system you'll get.......

B18C_EJ8

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CivicPride97 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Plus if you do get the type R and dont use an amp then your loosing power to them and may end up having them go bad because your headunit isnt strong enough to power the type Rs. </TD></TR></TABLE>

What??? How do you "loos" power to a speaker?

CrazyModGSR

I think he meant that certain subs are meant to be powered by an external amp (besides a deck) and if they aren't receiving a certain wattage, say a speakers that's meant to handle 200 watts RMS only getting 45 watts RMS, then it can be bad for the speaker over time

WillEat4F00d

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CrazyModGSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think he meant that certain subs are meant to be powered by an external amp (besides a deck) and if they aren't receiving a certain wattage, say a speakers that's meant to handle 200 watts RMS only getting 45 watts RMS, then it can be bad for the speaker over time</TD></TR></TABLE>
EVERY sub is meant to be powered by an external amp.

fcm

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CivicPride97 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I say if you want a decent system go with the type S. If you go with the type R then i would advise you to get a 4 channel amp to go with it because they sound way better when amped then when you just put them in there. Plus if you do get the type R and dont use an amp then your loosing power to them and may end up having them go bad because your headunit isnt strong enough to power the type Rs. to make things short if you want a decent system without amp go with Type s if you want a hard hit system go with type r with amp. Trust me ive done so many installs with these speakers (used to work at best buy installation bay) that i can tell you for a fact the type of system you'll get.......</TD></TR></TABLE>
Although I agree that you should use a more powerful amp if running the Type R speakers over the Type S speakers, however, a HU will drive either set of speakers without any problem, and you will not "lose" any power, and no damage can be done to the speakers, you can run a set of 100W speakers all day long with a 4x20W RMS HU and the speakers would last pretty much for ever.

The "hitch"... the problem comes when you over-drive the HUs amp into constant clipping, [this applies to all amps and all speakers] that damages the speakers.

Using an underpowered amp on a set of speakers will only result in not driving the speakers to their full potential.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CrazyModGSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think he meant that certain subs are meant to be powered by an external amp (besides a deck) and if they aren't receiving a certain wattage, say a speakers that's meant to handle 200 watts RMS only getting 45 watts RMS, then it can be bad for the speaker over time</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm pretty sure we are talking about speakers and not subs, the the same would apply, it's not the under-powering, it's the over-driving, of the amp that does the damage. 94

SoulTechnique

just wondering im planning to buy a set of alpine type r's and i was wondering what would a good amp to use on these speakers? And its going into a 95 integra if that matters haha

fcm

No it does not matter, any good amp that is rated at 2x125W RMS into 4 ohms will work for the 2way coax or the 2way components, you can get away with a 2x100W if it is the 2way coax.

You do know the Alpine 6.5" speakers are an over-sized 6.5" and will not fit your Teg without mods, right?? 94

SoulTechnique

thanks FCM

Cody2289

ouch, I just ordered four Type Rs for my integra; should be arriving in a few days. wasn't aware that they were "oversized" 6.5s... what kind of modification will I have to do?

fcm

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cody2289 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ouch, I just ordered four Type Rs for my integra; should be arriving in a few days. wasn't aware that they were "oversized" 6.5s... what kind of modification will I have to do?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Although the speaker is 1/2" too deep, [mounting depth] as is the case with most aftermarket speakers, it is not the main problem, stock speaker mounting depth is 2", [aftermarket speakers vary in mounting depth] the mod for this can be done three ways, a "depth reducer", [a spacer ring made from MDF with a thickness to make up the diff. in mounting depth].
Cutting a hole in the back of the stock plastic speaker housing big enough for the speakers magnet to go through.
Replacing the stock plastic speaker housing with a custom MDF housing.

The main problem is the speakers mounting diameter, stock mounting diameter is 5", the Alpine speakers mounting diameter is 5-5/16".
There are two ways to deal with mounting diameter, again a depth reducer can be use, kill 2 birds with one stone, use 1/2" MDF to make a spacer that has an outside diameter the same ,[or a little bigger] then the speakers over-all diameter and an inside diameter of 5-5/16" to fit the speaker, [ideally the inside hole is cut at a taper, 5-5/16" on top and 5" on bottom, this will allow you to use the stock speaker as a template, from the bottom, for the 3 mounting screw hole locations, you will need to countersink the mounting holes on the top so speaker will sit flat].
Mount the depth reducer to the stock plastic speaker housing then mount the speaker to the depth reducer.
Replace the stock plastic speaker housing with a custom MDF housing.

For both a mounting depth and mounting diameter problem the best solution is to replace the stock housing with a custom MDF housing.
There are two main reasons for this...

1- A speaker mounted to wood will sound better then that same speaker mounted to just about anything else

2- Mass, the more mass the speaker is mounted to the better it will sound, and MDF has more mass then plastic. 94

builthatch

how about type x's vs. the r's? the type x's seem to be filled with features that are only on the highest of high end units.