When is a car all-motor?
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When is a car all-motor?
Obviously a car isn't all-motor if it has a turbo, supercharger, or nitrous. Does the lack of any of those make you all-motor? Would a bone stock Civic CX be all-motor? Some people have suggested that a car isn't all-motor until it has real work on the motor. So what is eveyones opinion. Is any na car all-motor, is a a car with i/h/e, or at what point does it become all-motor? My personal opinion is after a swap or after you open the motor up for cams or whatever then it is all-motor and not just stock or all bolt-ons.
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Re: When is a car all-motor? (Teal95Coupe)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Teal95Coupe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Obviously a car isn't all-motor if it has a turbo, supercharger, or nitrous.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I thought all-motor was basically any car that didn't have turbo/super chargers on them. I didn't think having nitrous would take it out of all-motor. Since nitrous isn't really forced induction and it isn't really all-motor, are the bottle feeders the bastard children?
I thought all-motor was basically any car that didn't have turbo/super chargers on them. I didn't think having nitrous would take it out of all-motor. Since nitrous isn't really forced induction and it isn't really all-motor, are the bottle feeders the bastard children?
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Re: When is a car all-motor? (1slickcrx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1slickcrx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
are the bottle feeders the bastard children?</TD></TR></TABLE>
absolutely
are the bottle feeders the bastard children?</TD></TR></TABLE>
absolutely
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Re: When is a car all-motor? (1slickcrx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1slickcrx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
are the bottle feeders the bastard children?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Basically. The experts think we're a joke and teh newbies are afraid of us. When you get someone that does nitrous properly things get fun though.
are the bottle feeders the bastard children?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Basically. The experts think we're a joke and teh newbies are afraid of us. When you get someone that does nitrous properly things get fun though.
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Re: When is a car all-motor? (93VTEChatch)
Any car that does not have a power adder is all-motor.....or you will here the term NA..... <U>N</U> aturally <U>A</U> spirated or............................. <U>N</U> itrous <U>A</U> ssisted ... how ever you want to take it!
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Re: When is a car all-motor? (1slickcrx)
Actually, Nitrous is very close to being forced induction. Think about it, average bottle pressure for a Nitrous bottle will be about 900-1000psi. That 900-1000 psi is being shoved into a motor in gas form. The gas is incredibly cold, but its still being "forced" in. Just something to think about.
All motor = motor with no sort of FI
All motor = motor with no sort of FI
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Re: When is a car all-motor? (Al Bundy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Al Bundy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I hate when kids say they are all motor with just an intake. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Finally someone agrees that an intake isn't really all-motor. If a stock Civic is all-motor is adding an intake all-motor tuning?
Finally someone agrees that an intake isn't really all-motor. If a stock Civic is all-motor is adding an intake all-motor tuning?
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Re: When is a car all-motor? (real9999)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by real9999 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A nitrous car is all-motor when the nitrous plumbing is hidden.
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only if i could figure out how to hide the bottle in a gutted hatch...
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only if i could figure out how to hide the bottle in a gutted hatch...
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Re: When is a car all-motor? (Teal95Coupe)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Teal95Coupe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Finally someone agrees that an intake isn't really all-motor. If a stock Civic is all-motor is adding an intake all-motor tuning?</TD></TR></TABLE>
that is completely irrelevant. and engine is all-motor or naturally aspirated no matter what the power level. any boner with a stock engine and an intake is still all motor.. just a weak one.
Finally someone agrees that an intake isn't really all-motor. If a stock Civic is all-motor is adding an intake all-motor tuning?</TD></TR></TABLE>
that is completely irrelevant. and engine is all-motor or naturally aspirated no matter what the power level. any boner with a stock engine and an intake is still all motor.. just a weak one.
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Re: When is a car all-motor? (laughinxxx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by laughinxxx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Basically. The experts think we're a joke and teh newbies are afraid of us. When you get someone that does nitrous properly things get fun though. </TD></TR></TABLE>
yep, i believe that's true. i no longer use N2O but i think that's how people feel about it in general.
yep, i believe that's true. i no longer use N2O but i think that's how people feel about it in general.
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Re: When is a car all-motor? (sweet)
to answer the original topic questions, any motor that doesn' use F/I of some sort (Turbo, SC or N2O injection) is technically "All Motor" or "N/A".
but on the other hand i don't care too much when someone says they are 'running an all-motor setup... with just I/H/E'. that is a N/A motor, but not really all-motor the way alot of us think. all-motor being full block, head and tranny work, with tuning of course. a B or H series swap with a couple bolt-ons really doesn't fall into the genuine "All-Motor" catagory. more like "Street" motor.
but on the other hand i don't care too much when someone says they are 'running an all-motor setup... with just I/H/E'. that is a N/A motor, but not really all-motor the way alot of us think. all-motor being full block, head and tranny work, with tuning of course. a B or H series swap with a couple bolt-ons really doesn't fall into the genuine "All-Motor" catagory. more like "Street" motor.
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I'n my eyes the answer to this question is very simple and a few ppl have already answered it. An all motor car aka NA is simply a car that uses nothing but the motor itself to make it power. It doesn't matter what stage of an all motor setup you're in it's still all motor . A soon as you add something that wasnt on the car b4 to make more power like a turbo/ sc /nitrous and even that tornado thinggy( j/p ) then you are in a differnt catagory.
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Re: When is a car all-motor? (real9999)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by real9999 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A nitrous car is all-motor when the nitrous plumbing is hidden.
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Re: When is a car all-motor? (dwn-shift)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dwn-shift »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
only if i could figure out how to hide the bottle in a gutted hatch... </TD></TR></TABLE>
got you covered!!! I've been thinking about that for a long time now and I've got the answer. Bottle can be hidden in the rear or front bumper cover with a little work. You could also cut the spare tyre well out and weld a flat sheet there, then install the N20 under that flat plate-this is a little safer- I've got some other ideas that you may want to think about but I'll leave that to PM. (I'm assuming that the car is pretty much going to be a track car with the bottle, as I'd not advise this for the street...)
only if i could figure out how to hide the bottle in a gutted hatch... </TD></TR></TABLE>
got you covered!!! I've been thinking about that for a long time now and I've got the answer. Bottle can be hidden in the rear or front bumper cover with a little work. You could also cut the spare tyre well out and weld a flat sheet there, then install the N20 under that flat plate-this is a little safer- I've got some other ideas that you may want to think about but I'll leave that to PM. (I'm assuming that the car is pretty much going to be a track car with the bottle, as I'd not advise this for the street...)
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Re: When is a car all-motor? (dwn-shift)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dwn-shift »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">only if i could figure out how to hide the bottle in a gutted hatch... </TD></TR></TABLE>
Dude, you could like totally put it under your seat like the RX-7 in the movie The Strange and Delirious..!
Edit: ..dude..i was like totally gonna put something here after i searched for it but i cant think of it anymore.....
ReEdit: Sorry, but the Search function on H-T blows..! You can only search for words in the Title of the thread...
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Dude, you could like totally put it under your seat like the RX-7 in the movie The Strange and Delirious..!
Edit: ..dude..i was like totally gonna put something here after i searched for it but i cant think of it anymore.....
ReEdit: Sorry, but the Search function on H-T blows..! You can only search for words in the Title of the thread...
Modified by 10K2HVN at 5:24 AM 7/29/2003