When is a car all-motor?
 

Obviously a car isn't all-motor if it has a turbo, supercharger, or nitrous. Does the lack of any of those make you all-motor? Would a bone stock Civic CX be all-motor? Some people have suggested that a car isn't all-motor until it has real work on the motor. So what is eveyones opinion. Is any na car all-motor, is a a car with i/h/e, or at what point does it become all-motor? My personal opinion is after a swap or after you open the motor up for cams or whatever then it is all-motor and not just stock or all bolt-ons.

Re: When is a car all-motor? (Teal95Coupe)
 

Any car is all motor with out the addition of power adders.

Re: When is a car all-motor? (Teal95Coupe)
 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Teal95Coupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Obviously a car isn't all-motor if it has a turbo, supercharger, or nitrous.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I thought all-motor was basically any car that didn't have turbo/super chargers on them. I didn't think having nitrous would take it out of all-motor. Since nitrous isn't really forced induction and it isn't really all-motor, are the bottle feeders the bastard children?

Re: When is a car all-motor? (1slickcrx)
 

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are the bottle feeders the bastard children?</TD></TR></TABLE>

absolutely

Re: When is a car all-motor? (1slickcrx)
 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1slickcrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
are the bottle feeders the bastard children?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Basically. The experts think we're a joke and teh newbies are afraid of us. When you get someone that does nitrous properly things get fun though.

Re: When is a car all-motor? (laughinxxx)
 

A nitrous car is all-motor when the nitrous plumbing is hidden. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif

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Re: When is a car all-motor? (real9999)
 

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Re: When is a car all-motor? (snowseeker)
 

Any car without a power adder is all motor. Nitrous is a power adder.

Re: When is a car all-motor? (93VTEChatch)
 

Any car that does not have a power adder is all-motor.....or you will here the term NA..... <U>N</U> aturally <U>A</U> spirated or............................. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif <U>N</U> itrous <U>A</U> ssisted https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif ... how ever you want to take it!

Re: When is a car all-motor? (1slickcrx)
 

Actually, Nitrous is very close to being forced induction. Think about it, average bottle pressure for a Nitrous bottle will be about 900-1000psi. That 900-1000 psi is being shoved into a motor in gas form. The gas is incredibly cold, but its still being "forced" in. Just something to think about.

All motor = motor with no sort of FI

all motor is exactly how it sounds ALL MOTOR "anything else is uncivilized" https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif

Re: When is a car all-motor? (Teal95Coupe)
 

I hate when kids say they are all motor with just an intake.

Re: When is a car all-motor? (Al Bundy)
 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Al Bundy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I hate when kids say they are all motor with just an intake. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Finally someone agrees that an intake isn't really all-motor. If a stock Civic is all-motor is adding an intake all-motor tuning?

Re: When is a car all-motor? (real9999)
 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by real9999 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A nitrous car is all-motor when the nitrous plumbing is hidden. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif

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only if i could figure out how to hide the bottle in a gutted hatch... https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif

Re: When is a car all-motor? (Teal95Coupe)
 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Teal95Coupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Finally someone agrees that an intake isn't really all-motor. If a stock Civic is all-motor is adding an intake all-motor tuning?</TD></TR></TABLE>

that is completely irrelevant. and engine is all-motor or naturally aspirated no matter what the power level. any boner with a stock engine and an intake is still all motor.. just a weak one.

Re: When is a car all-motor? (Teal95Coupe)
 

the word means what it says. ALL MOTOR

Re: When is a car all-motor? (Drag R)
 

i think someone should make a dictionary defining all the terms used in honda tech

Re: When is a car all-motor? (NorCalAllMtr408)
 

All motor means naturally aspirated, plain and simple. You can "interpret" that how you want.

Re: When is a car all-motor? (laughinxxx)
 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by laughinxxx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Basically. The experts think we're a joke and teh newbies are afraid of us. When you get someone that does nitrous properly things get fun though. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yep, i believe that's true. i no longer use N2O but i think that's how people feel about it in general.

Re: When is a car all-motor? (sweet)
 

to answer the original topic questions, any motor that doesn' use F/I of some sort (Turbo, SC or N2O injection) is technically "All Motor" or "N/A".

but on the other hand i don't care too much when someone says they are 'running an all-motor setup... with just I/H/E'. that is a N/A motor, but not really all-motor the way alot of us think. all-motor being full block, head and tranny work, with tuning of course. a B or H series swap with a couple bolt-ons really doesn't fall into the genuine "All-Motor" catagory. more like "Street" motor.

i am 107hp all motor

Re: (Silverhatch)
 

I'n my eyes the answer to this question is very simple and a few ppl have already answered it. An all motor car aka NA is simply a car that uses nothing but the motor itself to make it power. It doesn't matter what stage of an all motor setup you're in it's still all motor . A soon as you add something that wasnt on the car b4 to make more power like a turbo/ sc /nitrous and even that tornado thinggy( j/p https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif ) then you are in a differnt catagory.

Re: When is a car all-motor? (real9999)
 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by real9999 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A nitrous car is all-motor when the nitrous plumbing is hidden. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif

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Re: When is a car all-motor? (dwn-shift)
 

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only if i could figure out how to hide the bottle in a gutted hatch... https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif </TD></TR></TABLE>

got you covered!!! I've been thinking about that for a long time now and I've got the answer. Bottle can be hidden in the rear or front bumper cover with a little work. You could also cut the spare tyre well out and weld a flat sheet there, then install the N20 under that flat plate-this is a little safer- I've got some other ideas that you may want to think about but I'll leave that to PM. (I'm assuming that the car is pretty much going to be a track car with the bottle, as I'd not advise this for the street...)

Re: When is a car all-motor? (dwn-shift)
 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dwn-shift &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">only if i could figure out how to hide the bottle in a gutted hatch... https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif </TD></TR></TABLE>
Dude, you could like totally put it under your seat like the RX-7 in the movie The Strange and Delirious..!

Edit: ..dude..i was like totally gonna put something here after i searched for it but i cant think of it anymore..... https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emhammer.gif

ReEdit: Sorry, but the Search function on H-T blows..! You can only search for words in the Title of the thread... https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emthdown.gif https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emsad.gif


Modified by 10K2HVN at 5:24 AM 7/29/2003