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Old 05-11-2011, 08:02 PM
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Default coilover uneven? alignment fix?

i just installed aspec coilovers (nonadjustable)

and replace lower ball joints

i noticed the right side is like... maybe 3-5mm higher than the left passenger side its very minimal

i havent gotten an alignment yet and camber looks a bit uneven (right looks more positive than the left)

so my question is will an alignment and corner balancing fix this

and can camber affect ride height like that?

it has had maybe 4 days to settle in now also

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Default Re: coilover uneven? alignment fix?

The A-spec kit are springs, not coilovers. Alignment settings won't change ride height.

Are you sure the spring coils are settled properly in the shock perch? There's a lip on the tophats where the spring has to nestle into, check to make sure the spring is seated in that groove.

Also you can measure the wheel gap from the fender to the top of the wheel to know if any corner is sitting lower than the others. Make sure the car is on level ground first.
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Default Re: coilover uneven? alignment fix?

rsx aspec kit i installed on my ep

theres a diy on ephatch and clubep for it

it came as complete already assembled strut and springs

its only off by maybe a few mm...so idk

i had to replace tierods and lowerball joints on both sides...

i checked the install over again already i dont see how its uneven
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http://www.ephatch.com/forum/showthr...pension-on-ep3
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Default Re: coilover uneven? alignment fix?

maybe with a full tank of gas itll even out LOL?

i have little less than 1/4 tank now
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Default Re: coilover uneven? alignment fix?

have a friend sit in the car on the drivers side and remesure.......lol at being able to see a 3-5mm differance ride hight
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Originally Posted by mustclime
have a friend sit in the car on the drivers side and remesure.......lol at being able to see a 3-5mm differance ride hight
well on one side its a tight 2 finger

otherside it's a bit looser so i measured it and it came out to be about 3-5mm ish

lol i have ocd tendencies
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Default Re: coilover uneven? alignment fix?

actually i looked again and measured again and its def more than a few mm

like 1/3inch

could camber be the difference in height?

i had to unbolt the lca and stuff in the front

trying to figure this out before i get an alignment
dont want to pay for an alignment twice

could it be because the engine is on the right side more than the left?

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Default Re: coilover uneven? alignment fix?

oh, a finger gaper....same size tires? same number of miles on the tires? same air pressure?
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Default Re: coilover uneven? alignment fix?

I really would be surprised if camber would be causing a ride height issue...
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Default Re: coilover uneven? alignment fix?

i had a friend get in and it looks even when he's sitting in the car

i doubt its suppose to be like that though...ill checked tire pressure just now too...

its the same size tires lol o.O
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Default Re: coilover uneven? alignment fix?

I noticed you didn't mention that you drove it around for the springs to settle; did you do that?

How much are those A-Spec springs worth?
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Default Re: coilover uneven? alignment fix?

Go over some speed bumps. 4 days isn't long enough to settle.
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Default Re: coilover uneven? alignment fix?

taking a mesument from the top of the tire to the fender is kinda silly....If you must use the fender, use the center of the wheel. I prefer to use the jacking points to the ground as fenders can be damaged. Did you point the arrows in the right directions on the top hats? If you didn't, that might be you problem
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Default Re: coilover uneven? alignment fix?

Originally Posted by mustclime
Did you point the arrows in the right directions on the top hats? If you didn't, that might be you problem
Didn't even think of that one good point bud
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Default Re: coilover uneven? alignment fix?

they set angle of the top hats..............spent way to much time under my car.......
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Default Re: coilover uneven? alignment fix?

Originally Posted by mustclime
they set angle of the top hats..............spent way to much time under my car.......
o **** i didnt even check that...

i dont remember them moving around at all?

i thought only aftermarket ones where "spinnable"

to my knowledge the aspec suspension only go on one way dont see how i couldve installed it wrong it came fully assembled? they were label rr,rl,fr,fl

i've been driving it around for almost the past week now

mustclime i measure from the jackpoints like you said and its almost close to a 1/4 inch

zerovandez http://www.curryacuraparts.com/pro.html 650 shipped + tie rod ends = about 720-750

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Default Re: coilover uneven? alignment fix?

is there anyway to tell from looking here?

those two pink dots are both facing outwards...





anyone else with aspec look at their top hats for me? mustclime don't you have aspec also?
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Default Re: coilover uneven? alignment fix?

Originally Posted by mustclime
taking a mesument from the top of the tire to the fender is kinda silly....If you must use the fender, use the center of the wheel. I prefer to use the jacking points to the ground as fenders can be damaged. Did you point the arrows in the right directions on the top hats? If you didn't, that might be you problem

EXACTLY... OP, if you did all this suspension work you need an alignment, well at least if you give a $**t about your tires, suspension, well your car and its driving performance in general. I too am OCD so anytime I take any suspension component off I get a fresh alignment. When you take things apart and put them back together on the suspension everything will go on fine however you'll never get it back together EXACTLY how it was before, so the suspension geometry has changed at least a little bit.

You replaced the tie rod ends so you for sure need an alignment to dial in your front toe. Camber being off can make a huge difference in measurements if you are measuring tire to fender edge. Either way, there is no way to "eyeball" alignment measurements. The only reason I pay for an alignment is because the damn alignment rack is so expensive and well it would take up a full stall in my garage.

I know its somewhat expensive to get an alignment but you may not have heard that Firestone offers a lifetime alignment service. It costs almost double what a single alignment costs however you pay once and you get alignments at no cost on that vehicle for as long as you own it. Even if I don't disassemble or change anything on my suspension setup I still have them put my girls on the rack every 5,000 miles just to check. In my professional opinion wheel alignment is as important to vehicle maintenance as an oil change... Would you go to McDonalds and put used fryer oil in your car, or would you used Mobil1 Synthetic? Food for thought (forgive the pun).

http://www.firestonecompleteautocare.../alignment.jsp
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Default Re: coilover uneven? alignment fix?

not trying to eyeball alignment measurements
  1. i need to drop the subframe to put in my es motor mounts this weekend
  2. i wanted to let the springs/shocks settle before i go for an alignment
  3. i dont have 150 for a lifetime alignment with firestone, my budget is 70 (which is what one of my local alignment shop charges)

i was going to wait till after this weekend to get an alignment either way

but after seeing it uneven i keep wondering if there is something else i need to fix first?

Camber being off can make a huge difference in measurements if you are measuring tire to fender edge
so you think if i get an alignment everything is fine?

i heard firestone doesnt let you adjust your camber to your own specs?
im reconsidering spending the extra $$ for a lifetime deal now that you mentioned it again...
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Default Re: coilover uneven? alignment fix?

never heard about the firestone alignment offering! Im going to check that out monday!
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Default Re: coilover uneven? alignment fix?

Originally Posted by 03civicdopejmd
never heard about the firestone alignment offering! Im going to check that out monday!
yeah screw it im going for a lifetime alignment today.

ill check back if the car is still sitting uneven after that. =]]
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Default Re: coilover uneven? alignment fix?

they told me i had to replace a bunch of stuff...and i need a camber kit...

i don't trust that at all

had them print out what they told me needed replacing

pics below

probably going to put in motor mounts and go to a different firestone for an alignment again. i really doubt i need a camber kit

glad i bought a lifetime alignment =D
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dont see why i need to replace my wheel bearing along with control arm? cant i just use the current wheel bearing seeing as nothing is wrong with it...

the guy said it has to be replaced with it? so maybe its a firestone policy?

i really dunno...i just know i dont trust what they told me at all...they told me all this without showing me physically at all..like i just need to blindly believe them

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why does firestone get such bad reviews in my area???? o.o

i feel like they lied to me for some reason and i dont really need anything replaced fml

kindve wish i just went to my local alignment shop for 70 now...i hope when i go to firestone again they dont tell me the same ****

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