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Old 06-12-2003, 07:41 PM
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Sorry for the long post, i have an ls but I though you R people would appreciate this more! I took a trip to the dyno a few weeks ago and noticed that my motor moved all over the engine bay when letting off the gas. I then saw that john from LHT had come up with an engine brace to prevent this from happening. Apparently "scooter" was having the same problem and had one made. Anyways, i gave it a shot, Half way through i decided I wanted a master cylinder brace also, called john up and he said he would incorporate it in with the dampner! AWESOME! Well, after the install I picked my car up, ( he even went the extra mile to fix a little vac leak I had ). Right away I noticed a diff in the entire feel of the car. The brakes are more responsive and the overall car feels 10 times better.This is one of the best products i have bought for my car. I would give this a 11 out of 10.Service was top notch also. I would reccomend John to anyone looking to enhance your cars performance!! Thank You John!!







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hahaha, nice finger!
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Sorry, didnt even think about it OOPS!
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It's hard to make out what it is in those pics. Can you give a better explaination of how it works and where it attaches?

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It is bolted to the 2 nuts that hold the control arm on. Then the one side of the shock bolts to the bracket and the other to the hole on the back of the head. There is then a bolt coming off the bracket going to the master cylinder. Sorry its not to technical, maybe john or scooter will chime in.
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Here. I tweaked the pics for better visibility. Also, jpegs work much better for web applications.





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is this a brace + engine dampner in one? hmm what was the cost involved?
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interesting... I would like to know hoe effective your design is...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98R-1144 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is this a brace + engine dampner in one? hmm what was the cost involved? </TD></TR></TABLE>

i would like to know as well. looks great
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have u taken it to the dyno after??? in another post people were saying the engine was flexing in one direction, and twisting in the other since the brace is only on one side of the motor....it kinda worries me.
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how does it mount to the MC?? can we get another shot on the MC side
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ryu12341 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i would like to know as well. looks great </TD></TR></TABLE>
hrmm.. this appears to be posted after the rather large post about the mr. alex/j's racing damper .. i wonder if lht will make one for the passenger side and how much this bad boy costs..
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Ill let john chime in about the cost if he wants to. As far as going back to the dyno, it will be in a week or so. Ill get more pics after work.
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Default Re: LHT master cylinder brace/engine dampner (95TurboLS)

do they have a web site?

I would love to see better pics
Floyds are not working for me.
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LHTperformance.NET

I dont think they have any pics on there so ill get some better ones later today or tomorrow morning.
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looks great

how much did it cost? i already have an LHT MC brace so i'm wondering if i can just get the integrated dampener, or if it was custom fabricated for your application...
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John at LHT is a good guy who makes good products.

That new engine damper and MC brace looks like a good idea.

John, where are you at? What kind of price are we looking at for one of these?

-kenji
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i have a concern about this, as the the engine flexes and the brace absorbs the energy it is being directly transmitted to the mc on the opposite side... a typical mc brace does not put pressure on the mc or booster, it just prevents it from moving outwards from the firewall... this design will put pressure on it forcing it in towords the firewall as it is absorbing the engine movement, which may damage the mc and booster.
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Default Re: LHT master cylinder brace/engine dampner (euclid)

So the brace that keeps the engine from moving is attached to the MC? Why not attach it to the frame? That seems kind of dangerous to be putting all that pressure on the MC. It doesn't seem to make sense since now two parts are pushing on either other in different directions with different amounts of force rather than both just being anchored to a solid point.

Polyurethane motor mount inserts are another inexpensive alternative to keeping your engine from flexing.
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it is connected to the frame, but it will flex trying to limit the motion of the engine... as it flexes in the oppsoite directiion of the engine it is flexing directly into the mc which it is also touching.
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.....too bad I've been calling and emailing LHT for about a year now re: their bseries hydro tranny in an EF conversion kit. No response.
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call him up, 727 144 1800.
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Default Re: LHT master cylinder brace/engine dampner (euclid)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by euclid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this design will put pressure on it forcing it in towords the firewall as it is absorbing the engine movement, which may damage the mc and booster. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Will it? It's anchored pretty well, I really don't see it being able to move at all... we'll make sure to get some better pics so you can see a bit better. I'm sure John will see this soon.. or scooter...
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Since there is a some sort of damper in place, whether it be hydraulic or pneumatic, it will be damping (hence the name) the engine movement and will limit the amount of movement put into the brace.


Euclid,

Your concern may have merit but I think the effect of the engine movement on the master cylinder and firewall will be minimal.

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kenji &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Since there is a some sort of damper in place, whether it be hydraulic or pneumatic, it will be damping (hence the name) the engine movement and will limit the amount of movement put into the brace.


Euclid,

Your concern may have merit but I think the effect of the engine movement on the master cylinder and firewall will be minimal.

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well its just something he should watch out for, he should go have someone rev his engine and watch the dampner work, it will depend on the strength of the backets whether or not it will flex. the brakes failing would not be good.


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