Issue with one-tire-fire
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Issue with one-tire-fire
I have an issue with my passenger's side tire. It keeps going bald on me AND when I step on it, it pulls to the right quite significantly.
At first I thought it may be an alignment issue. So I had a full alignment done. Didn't fix it.
Then I thought, crap - I wonder if someone replaced the tranny right before I bought the car with a NON-LSD one... which would really suck... and I couldnt find the LSD stamp on the tranny. So I did some honda-tech searching and found that when the car is in the air, I can turn one tire and the other turns in the opposite direction - meaning yes, I do have LSD (phewf)
What could the problem be? Is it possible for the lsd to be "out of adjustment"? Possible my passenger's side A-arm is ever so slightly bent?
Ideas?
thank you
At first I thought it may be an alignment issue. So I had a full alignment done. Didn't fix it.
Then I thought, crap - I wonder if someone replaced the tranny right before I bought the car with a NON-LSD one... which would really suck... and I couldnt find the LSD stamp on the tranny. So I did some honda-tech searching and found that when the car is in the air, I can turn one tire and the other turns in the opposite direction - meaning yes, I do have LSD (phewf)
What could the problem be? Is it possible for the lsd to be "out of adjustment"? Possible my passenger's side A-arm is ever so slightly bent?
Ideas?
thank you
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I'd do some more research into that whole turn one tire in the air and the other spins the opposite direction. I seem to remember my LS doing that as well.
We had to take one of the wheels off while it was in the air and I had to go to the other side and try to hold the wheel still while my friend took the nuts off.
I think the best way for you to tell is pull one of the axels out, then shine a flashlight in the differential hole. If you see a bar in the middle of the hole, you got had. If you see the other axel with nothing in the middle of the differential, you have an LSD.
We had to take one of the wheels off while it was in the air and I had to go to the other side and try to hold the wheel still while my friend took the nuts off.
I think the best way for you to tell is pull one of the axels out, then shine a flashlight in the differential hole. If you see a bar in the middle of the hole, you got had. If you see the other axel with nothing in the middle of the differential, you have an LSD.
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Re: Issue with one-tire-fire (Andrew Sutherland)
I am just pulling this out of my ***. Have you check the compliance arm on that side of the car?
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Re: Issue with one-tire-fire (Comp97GSR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Comp97GSR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am just pulling this out of my ***. compliance arm</TD></TR></TABLE>
Holy **** that must have hurt
Holy **** that must have hurt
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Hmmmmmmmmmmm
Ok, I'll check it out. Hope I wasn't had.... (everything else has been fine!)
Hmmmmmmmmmmm
Ok, I'll check it out. Hope I wasn't had.... (everything else has been fine!)
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Re: Issue with one-tire-fire (Andrew Sutherland)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Andrew Sutherland »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have an issue with my passenger's side tire. It keeps going bald on me AND when I step on it, it pulls to the right quite significantly.
At first I thought it may be an alignment issue. So I had a full alignment done. Didn't fix it.
Then I thought, crap - I wonder if someone replaced the tranny right before I bought the car with a NON-LSD one... which would really suck... and I couldnt find the LSD stamp on the tranny. So I did some honda-tech searching and found that when the car is in the air, I can turn one tire and the other turns in the opposite direction - meaning yes, I do have LSD (phewf)
What could the problem be? Is it possible for the lsd to be "out of adjustment"? Possible my passenger's side A-arm is ever so slightly bent?
Ideas?
thank you </TD></TR></TABLE>
first off OEM LSD is a load based setup so can it not be checked with both wheels up in the air. If you do it that way it will work exactly like you mention, which is the way an open (non-LSD dif) works also.
the best (see non destructive) way to make sure you have an OEM LSD is to pull the axles and make sure there is no bar running across the middle of the axle holes.
bar = standard dif
no bar = LSD
Other ways of checking for LSD are a little more involved. Other than a little burn out, you can also turn the wheel one turn (with a lot of pavment in front of you) and simply stomp on the throttle, if the inner tire spins and the car accelerates slowly then you likely have an open dif. If the inner tire start to spin then the car sort of stutters a little and then the car accelerates close to what is does with the wheel straight then you have LSD.
As far as your one tire destruction problem... how hot is your rim/tire after driving a short distance? (dead give away to a stuck floating pin on the caliper)
At first I thought it may be an alignment issue. So I had a full alignment done. Didn't fix it.
Then I thought, crap - I wonder if someone replaced the tranny right before I bought the car with a NON-LSD one... which would really suck... and I couldnt find the LSD stamp on the tranny. So I did some honda-tech searching and found that when the car is in the air, I can turn one tire and the other turns in the opposite direction - meaning yes, I do have LSD (phewf)
What could the problem be? Is it possible for the lsd to be "out of adjustment"? Possible my passenger's side A-arm is ever so slightly bent?
Ideas?
thank you </TD></TR></TABLE>
first off OEM LSD is a load based setup so can it not be checked with both wheels up in the air. If you do it that way it will work exactly like you mention, which is the way an open (non-LSD dif) works also.
the best (see non destructive) way to make sure you have an OEM LSD is to pull the axles and make sure there is no bar running across the middle of the axle holes.
bar = standard dif
no bar = LSD
Other ways of checking for LSD are a little more involved. Other than a little burn out, you can also turn the wheel one turn (with a lot of pavment in front of you) and simply stomp on the throttle, if the inner tire spins and the car accelerates slowly then you likely have an open dif. If the inner tire start to spin then the car sort of stutters a little and then the car accelerates close to what is does with the wheel straight then you have LSD.
As far as your one tire destruction problem... how hot is your rim/tire after driving a short distance? (dead give away to a stuck floating pin on the caliper)
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Re: Issue with one-tire-fire (white rocket)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by white rocket »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Holy **** that must have hurt </TD></TR></TABLE>
You bish.... If you are gonna quote, quote it correctly like this.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by white rocket »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Holy **** I am gonna get teabagged @ Expo </TD></TR></TABLE>
Holy **** that must have hurt </TD></TR></TABLE>
You bish.... If you are gonna quote, quote it correctly like this.
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Holy **** I am gonna get teabagged @ Expo </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: Issue with one-tire-fire (Andrew Sutherland)
I guess my question to the O.P. is, Are you constantly doing burnout's?
IMO, you are suffering from a serve alignment issue and you say you had your aligment checked. Something in there is causing your aligment to go WAY out if you are significantly pulling to the right on acceleration. An LSD finaldrive... etc etc is not going to cause that.
You never stated whether or not it is the inner tire, outer tire or all of it that is going bald.
IMO, you are suffering from a serve alignment issue and you say you had your aligment checked. Something in there is causing your aligment to go WAY out if you are significantly pulling to the right on acceleration. An LSD finaldrive... etc etc is not going to cause that.
You never stated whether or not it is the inner tire, outer tire or all of it that is going bald.
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You would think the car wouldn't align properly if there were any bent suspension parts.
What type of suspension is on your car?
Like John said, inner tire or outer tire going bald?
Maybe your wheel is bent crazy or something.
What type of suspension is on your car?
Like John said, inner tire or outer tire going bald?
Maybe your wheel is bent crazy or something.
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All good thoughts. To answer some questions:
-Not a rim issue, I switched rims with the back tire and it is still doing it.
-Inner tire is getting the majority of the baldness.
-All OEM susp parts except for H&R sport springs and a camber adj kit.
-NOT doing ANY burnouts. I never ever beat on my car like that.
-I wasn't thinking a LSD would cause it to pull to the one side, I was thinking NOT having one would...
-Tire/Rim not hot, or at least not hotter than any of the other ones.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by "Relic1" »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you can also turn the wheel one turn (with a lot of pavment in front of you) and simply stomp on the throttle,... ... If the inner tire start to spin then the car sort of stutters a little and then the car accelerates close to what is does with the wheel straight then you have LSD.</TD></TR></TABLE>
BINGO - car does that.
-Not a rim issue, I switched rims with the back tire and it is still doing it.
-Inner tire is getting the majority of the baldness.
-All OEM susp parts except for H&R sport springs and a camber adj kit.
-NOT doing ANY burnouts. I never ever beat on my car like that.
-I wasn't thinking a LSD would cause it to pull to the one side, I was thinking NOT having one would...
-Tire/Rim not hot, or at least not hotter than any of the other ones.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by "Relic1" »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you can also turn the wheel one turn (with a lot of pavment in front of you) and simply stomp on the throttle,... ... If the inner tire start to spin then the car sort of stutters a little and then the car accelerates close to what is does with the wheel straight then you have LSD.</TD></TR></TABLE>
BINGO - car does that.
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Re: (Andrew Sutherland)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Andrew Sutherland »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">All good thoughts. To answer some questions:
-Not a rim issue, I switched rims with the back tire and it is still doing it.
-Inner tire is getting the majority of the baldness.
-All OEM susp parts except for H&R sport springs and a camber adj kit.
-NOT doing ANY burnouts. I never ever beat on my car like that.
-I wasn't thinking a LSD would cause it to pull to the one side, I was thinking NOT having one would...
-Tire/Rim not hot, or at least not hotter than any of the other ones.
BINGO - car does that.
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Sounds like the passenger side slipped.
-Not a rim issue, I switched rims with the back tire and it is still doing it.
-Inner tire is getting the majority of the baldness.
-All OEM susp parts except for H&R sport springs and a camber adj kit.
-NOT doing ANY burnouts. I never ever beat on my car like that.
-I wasn't thinking a LSD would cause it to pull to the one side, I was thinking NOT having one would...
-Tire/Rim not hot, or at least not hotter than any of the other ones.
BINGO - car does that.
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Sounds like the passenger side slipped.
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Sounds like the passenger side slipped.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Check that first, but like you said you had your alignment checked. I bet you have broken/worn bushings somewhere.......
Sounds like the passenger side slipped.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Check that first, but like you said you had your alignment checked. I bet you have broken/worn bushings somewhere.......
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by "Comp97GSR" »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Check that first, but like you said you had your alignment checked. I bet you have broken/worn bushings somewhere....... </TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks, will do.
I'll post here to let you know if that was it!
Thanks, will do.
I'll post here to let you know if that was it!
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Thanks, will do.
I'll post here to let you know if that was it!</TD></TR></TABLE>
DId you check yet????? Hurry the hell up!!!!
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Thanks, will do.
I'll post here to let you know if that was it!</TD></TR></TABLE>
DId you check yet????? Hurry the hell up!!!!
refer to sig
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Re: Issue with one-tire-fire (Andrew Sutherland)
Definitely suspension and/or alignment related. Definitely not caused by a diff, whether it be an open diff or LSD.
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Did they give you the print out from the alignment machine? If so, list the toe, camber and caster here.
A non-LSD transaxle is not going to cause this kind of wear.
A non-LSD transaxle is not going to cause this kind of wear.
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DId you check yet????? Hurry the hell up!!!!
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LOL Jim . That made me chuckle........
DId you check yet????? Hurry the hell up!!!!
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LOL Jim . That made me chuckle........
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You arent gonna find it sitting behind the computer
You arent gonna find it sitting behind the computer
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Refer to your own sig That is my answer...
Refer to your own sig That is my answer...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Andrew Sutherland »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Refer to your own sig That is my answer...</TD></TR></TABLE>
lol, but if your bored and drove the car......get your **** down and take a look!
What front camber kit are you using?
Refer to your own sig That is my answer...</TD></TR></TABLE>
lol, but if your bored and drove the car......get your **** down and take a look!
What front camber kit are you using?
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Unfortunately I may be able to sneak some posts onto H-T, but I cannot leave work to go drive heR
Not for another hour and 10 mins though....
I can't remember what kit it was, I bought it off a guy on here...
Not for another hour and 10 mins though....
I can't remember what kit it was, I bought it off a guy on here...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Andrew Sutherland »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Unfortunately I may be able to sneak some posts onto H-T, but I cannot leave work to go drive heR
Not for another hour and 10 mins though....
I can't remember what kit it was, I bought it off a guy on here...</TD></TR></TABLE>
That sucks! I'm wondering if you have an adj camber kit up front, or just something like the ingalls kit.
Not for another hour and 10 mins though....
I can't remember what kit it was, I bought it off a guy on here...</TD></TR></TABLE>
That sucks! I'm wondering if you have an adj camber kit up front, or just something like the ingalls kit.