Exhausts....
11-08-2002, 02:01 PM
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Re: Exhausts.... (TypeR#1111)
So SMSP has to be welded. 
I have a feeling that jacks its price right out of the range I was in!!
Anyone have any hytech exhaust info??? I was unable to find much, not nearly as much as the other exhausts, especially smsp.
I have a feeling that jacks its price right out of the range I was in!!Anyone have any hytech exhaust info??? I was unable to find much, not nearly as much as the other exhausts, especially smsp.
11-08-2002, 02:04 PM
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Re: Exhausts.... (TypeR#1111)
wow... i dint know that the silencer took that much power off... and it doesnt even help the low end power like the [apexi N1] website says...
11-08-2002, 02:41 PM
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Re: Exhausts.... (mantic6t9)
I was inferring that according to the dyno chart, that extra backpressure resulted in quite a hp/tq loss. I would have thought it would have been less of a loss!
11-08-2002, 02:43 PM
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Re: Exhausts.... (1107)
I'm starting to think Fujitsubo RM-01A or new T1R.
Hytech - too much, smsp - too much once you pay for welds.
Nice pic above! Which kakimoto is that? N1?
Hytech - too much, smsp - too much once you pay for welds.
Nice pic above! Which kakimoto is that? N1?
11-08-2002, 07:48 PM
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Re: Exhausts.... (George Knighton)
I have my vote on the T1R exhaust after hearing ITRGURU's car today. His car sounded like an airplane when he floored it past me. 
Quality is top-notch and everything fitted perfectly (2nd batch). Furthermore, it's not too big and visible.
Quality is top-notch and everything fitted perfectly (2nd batch). Furthermore, it's not too big and visible.
11-08-2002, 08:02 PM
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Re: Exhausts.... (IMJUSTBORED)
i got an idea keep the stock exhaust and get a test pipe, sounds barley even noticable ,cheaper,and will yield you more HP per dollar than any intake exhaust you'll ever buy.
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11-08-2002, 09:13 PM
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Re: Exhausts.... (MUTANT X)
i got an idea keep the stock exhaust and get a test pipe, sounds barley even noticable ,cheaper,and will yield you more HP per dollar than any intake exhaust you'll ever buy.
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[Modified by MUTANT X, 5:04 AM 11/9/2002]
Besides there are alot of us that can't LEGALLY run a testpipe and or don't want to run into any trouble or a Federal fine.
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11-08-2002, 09:48 PM
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Re: Exhausts.... (1GreyTeg)
Testpipes will make your exhaust louder and yes even the stock setup will gain a few DB's with just a testpipe. But, to alot of us it is not an option nor is it worth it.
A high Flow cat is a better idea, Carsound makes the 94006 and you can get it from Mike at IPS racing in my SIG or a modified version from Dave SMSP.
The proven performers for our motors accompanying a GOOD header are of course the SMSP and Hytech. There are quite a few more but, the aformentioned have shown the best gains and least restrictions.
As per sound on the ITR, that I have personally experienced, I feel on the rating scale of 1 being Stock and 10 being loudest I'd rate the following:
Spoon N-1=7 definately as loud as the Apexi N-1 but, slightly deeper tone
Spoon Sport=4 relatively quiet, similar to a Comptech
Thermal=7 Deep down low and loud at the top, I really like this one though, just not for My car
Apexi N-1=8 Just plain LOUD and without a cat it is Very obnoxious, Sorry Oscar
Mugen=3 Just a bit more than stock, nice tone
5Zigen=6 to 7 Deep but, not as nice as the Thermal and has the infamous Bottleneck as a few other here mentioned do as well
EVO=6 I actually had this on an LS and liked it for about 2 weeks low, deep and then it gets progressively louder... I had some
manufacturing issues with this one and Do NOT reccomend it
Custom Magnaflow=8 and Crappy
Comptech=4 deeper than stock and pretty nice, I'd rate it a step below the Mugen IMHO though
Fujitsubo RM01A=5 but, was a sound file from their site and Not a realworld representation, It IS very promising, Deeper than stock but Not loud or obnoxious, Akin to the Mugen IMHO
I have been on a hunt for a catback that sounds slightly louder and deeper and more aggressive than stock. I require at least a 60mm catback and No or minimal bottlenecks if I am going to spend what I find these to be priced at. I previously had set on the Skunk2 Megapower but, have since heard that it is louder than what I may desire. I was very pleased with the Mugen Twinloop and will continue to find a setup that is quiet and similar in sound and tone.
I may Just NOT get a catback since I can't decide on one and just don't see huge gains with one sans the Hytech and SMSP. I can't go with the SMSP since it comes un-assembled and I do NOT have a good TIG welding muffler guy nearbye. Hytech is another option and pricewise competitive but,t he wait with much of anything from them is long and tiresome.
I will settle soon but, I just have to listen a little more and decide for myself...
BTW 172WHP is similar to what some people post when just running a Good header and HF cat... I just don't know if the deal is worth it.
This is NOT an easy task, Good luck,
A.
A high Flow cat is a better idea, Carsound makes the 94006 and you can get it from Mike at IPS racing in my SIG or a modified version from Dave SMSP.
The proven performers for our motors accompanying a GOOD header are of course the SMSP and Hytech. There are quite a few more but, the aformentioned have shown the best gains and least restrictions.
As per sound on the ITR, that I have personally experienced, I feel on the rating scale of 1 being Stock and 10 being loudest I'd rate the following:
Spoon N-1=7 definately as loud as the Apexi N-1 but, slightly deeper tone
Spoon Sport=4 relatively quiet, similar to a Comptech
Thermal=7 Deep down low and loud at the top, I really like this one though, just not for My car
Apexi N-1=8 Just plain LOUD and without a cat it is Very obnoxious, Sorry Oscar
Mugen=3 Just a bit more than stock, nice tone
5Zigen=6 to 7 Deep but, not as nice as the Thermal and has the infamous Bottleneck as a few other here mentioned do as well
EVO=6 I actually had this on an LS and liked it for about 2 weeks low, deep and then it gets progressively louder... I had some
manufacturing issues with this one and Do NOT reccomend it
Custom Magnaflow=8 and Crappy
Comptech=4 deeper than stock and pretty nice, I'd rate it a step below the Mugen IMHO though
Fujitsubo RM01A=5 but, was a sound file from their site and Not a realworld representation, It IS very promising, Deeper than stock but Not loud or obnoxious, Akin to the Mugen IMHO
I have been on a hunt for a catback that sounds slightly louder and deeper and more aggressive than stock. I require at least a 60mm catback and No or minimal bottlenecks if I am going to spend what I find these to be priced at. I previously had set on the Skunk2 Megapower but, have since heard that it is louder than what I may desire. I was very pleased with the Mugen Twinloop and will continue to find a setup that is quiet and similar in sound and tone.
I may Just NOT get a catback since I can't decide on one and just don't see huge gains with one sans the Hytech and SMSP. I can't go with the SMSP since it comes un-assembled and I do NOT have a good TIG welding muffler guy nearbye. Hytech is another option and pricewise competitive but,t he wait with much of anything from them is long and tiresome.
I will settle soon but, I just have to listen a little more and decide for myself...
BTW 172WHP is similar to what some people post when just running a Good header and HF cat... I just don't know if the deal is worth it.
This is NOT an easy task, Good luck,
A.
11-08-2002, 10:21 PM
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Re: Exhausts.... (1GreyTeg)
Thanks for the great info above. I'm realizing that this is not an easy task at all. I just keep coming back to the Fujitsubo and T1R... I guess I'll have to wait and see about those two.
George - What exhaust do you have, what was used on the dyno graph you posted?
Chris - who is happy with his carsound cat from smsp and has no need for a test pipe instead of an exhaust.
George - What exhaust do you have, what was used on the dyno graph you posted?
Chris - who is happy with his carsound cat from smsp and has no need for a test pipe instead of an exhaust.
11-09-2002, 01:08 PM
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Re: Exhausts.... (Ross)
Hi 1Greyteg,
I have a custom 2.5 Magnaflow/Carsound exhaust on my R and it wasn't much louder than stock (until the cam install). It had a nice deep tone, too.
The sound volume and qualitywill depend upon which resonator/muffler combo you go with. I got mine from Dave at SMSP and he set me up with the combo that was the quietest (longest resonator and a not quite straight through oval muffler). Nice deep, strong sound!
John
I have a custom 2.5 Magnaflow/Carsound exhaust on my R and it wasn't much louder than stock (until the cam install). It had a nice deep tone, too.
The sound volume and qualitywill depend upon which resonator/muffler combo you go with. I got mine from Dave at SMSP and he set me up with the combo that was the quietest (longest resonator and a not quite straight through oval muffler). Nice deep, strong sound!
John
11-09-2002, 08:22 PM
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Re: Exhausts.... (zer0zer0 TypeR)
My Kakimoto R 70mm is not loud at all. The N1 look damn nice and if there is no bottle neck, then it is even better.
But after all, I think exhaust sound is all depend on personal taste. The best way is to hear them in person yourself.
But after all, I think exhaust sound is all depend on personal taste. The best way is to hear them in person yourself.
11-09-2002, 08:38 PM
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Re: Exhausts.... (Racebrewer)
Hi 1Greyteg,
I have a custom 2.5 Magnaflow/Carsound exhaust on my R and it wasn't much louder than stock (until the cam install). It had a nice deep tone, too.
The sound volume and qualitywill depend upon which resonator/muffler combo you go with. I got mine from Dave at SMSP and he set me up with the combo that was the quietest (longest resonator and a not quite straight through oval muffler). Nice deep, strong sound!
John
I have a custom 2.5 Magnaflow/Carsound exhaust on my R and it wasn't much louder than stock (until the cam install). It had a nice deep tone, too.
The sound volume and qualitywill depend upon which resonator/muffler combo you go with. I got mine from Dave at SMSP and he set me up with the combo that was the quietest (longest resonator and a not quite straight through oval muffler). Nice deep, strong sound!
John
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Re: Exhausts.... (1107)
I have the T1R N1 catback and its loud. The noise is louder when you dont have rear seats! In the Chicago Cruise #2video that was the sound of the T1, Its extremely loud at low rpms.
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Re: Exhausts.... (Chris N)
yeah, thats nice. I ordered a Hytech exhaust 16 weeks ago. It was supposed to be ready in 3-4 weeks so I hope after all this time it really makes my VtAK pop.
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Re: Exhausts.... (Comp97GSR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Comp97GSR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah, thats nice. I ordered a Hytech exhaust 16 weeks ago. It was supposed to be ready in 3-4 weeks so I hope after all this time it really makes my VtAK pop.</TD></TR></TABLE>
LOL damn John!!
LOL damn John!!
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Re: Exhausts.... (97CWITR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97CWITR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">5 years old...did u not check the date of the thread...????</TD></TR></TABLE>
O'REALLY?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JjuuN R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
LOL damn John!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
I wish I could bring myself to LOL with you.... maybe next time we see each other and I have a beer in my hand and the exhaust on the caR we can.
O'REALLY?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JjuuN R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
LOL damn John!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
I wish I could bring myself to LOL with you.... maybe next time we see each other and I have a beer in my hand and the exhaust on the caR we can.
