Quickridez_3

will a EG manual steering rack work on my Integra? and how do i convert my car to non abs. im doing a wire tuck and seeing if anyone has pics of how they did it or how you people may have done ABS but hidden it. thanks for the info and pictures

racebum

please don't cut up an itr

srt4mike

x2

slofu

I'd not object to the removal of the ABS on any Integra other than the R- especially merely for the sake of a wire-tuck. If you're dead-set on removing your PS pump, you can loop the lines and retain most of the functionality of the PS system, which is quite nice on a road course, where the ITR belongs.

Apathy47

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why...would you downgrade to an EG steering rack?

I agree with slofu. you have to loop it and have a breather for it. there are threads covering this topic.

here are some pics for reference:




I still say keep the ABS or tuck it.

Quickridez_3

i want to get ride of the extra lines. i actually want a manual steering rack thats why i said eg. Eg civics are alot like integras so dont act like its a big deal

importfan2

I have eliminated my abs & p/s.. keep the ITR Rack in it.. and just loop the lines.. much easier and a R rack is way better than some EG Rack..

1 you dont have to elminate your brake lines to do a wire tuck.. just some of the abs wires could be exposed.. If you decided to elminate them. you will need to get a 10/10 prop valve. and a set of lines from an RS integra.. or make your own..

only reason i did it.. because mine was a shell and isnt a DD

Quickridez_3

yeah mine is a weekend car and boosted so i want to get my bay simplified. ive seen in the past some ppl put eg racks but no one with one has responded

YellowKahuna

No one puts a eg steeringrack in a R

racebum

makes it faster yo, just like abs, who needs that when you can skid

mad tizight jdm style..........yo

+ 3 more yo's

SlapSmak

Dude, he wont skid, he has super quick feet. he can pump the pedal way faster than the ABS can.
and R's with tucks are the shizzle

And just because the R rack has a way better ratio than a POS EG wont matter as he backs into his parking space at the Car Show.

Dont forget to spray paint your door panels.

Yo

JdmTypeRdc2

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When i eliminated my power steering i did the following:

Took out complete power steering system.
Went to Pep Boys, bought a T fitting
Bought one piece of hose that would fit that fitting.
Cut the hose in 3 pieces
Loop the power steering rack by putting one hose on each side of the T fitting, and the other house out the top.
The one from the top will lead into a reservoir filled with PS fluid.
I used a spare clutch reservoir and bolted it underneath the brake master cylinder with 2 10 mm bolts.

It gives it a good feeling, while still keeping the reservoir hidden from sight. It will not be as hard to turn as a manual (EG) rack, and it wont be as easy to turn as a PS rack. It gives it the perfect (in between) feeling. Still great for daily driving, parking and making sharp turns. But also gives you the precision of not have PS, along with the control and stiffer steering response.

Thats the best way to go about it.

JdmTypeRdc2

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ABS i just dont mess around with...

I think thats very needed, so i kept that intact.

No PS or AC tho. I can step inside the bay to clean my firewall, instead of having to reach over my bumper or fenders to get to it. A simple wire tuck looks very nice too, so dont get too upset if you cant hide everything.

clemsonhatch

I've got the Quaife rack in my EG and it's OK...but I would do the looped Integra rack if I were to do it again.

Cliff notes:
Don't put an EG rack in an ITR.

Arsenal

I did!

Yes, the EG Rack will work. Just need to get the steering knuckle.

Search, this topic has been covered numerous times.

JdmTypeRdc2

iTrader: (1)

Looping is the easiest, most effective way.

Devon M

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Ill trade my eg rack for your r rack.

Quickridez_3

i got the eg rack for free my friend did rhd and said i could have it. but i do need the knuckle. whats the diffenece in the ratio on both. lol i love how everyone thinks R parts are like god haha. the loop seemed kinda ghetto. but ill keep my R one incase i decide i hate the Eg rack. anyone else ever change this out in an R or am i and this guy the other one to have the idea. ABS is more for like if i woman driving the car that doesnt know how to brake lol you saying you dont have pedal feel and need a computer to do it for you so you dont slide into someone. lol

Quickridez_3

thanks for the pictures. i might get mine ready this way too. all my changes im doing in the engine bay are unbolt and nothing cut so if someone is **** and wants something it can be returned to stock easy

Quickridez_3

https://honda-tech.com/forums/acura-integra-type-r-8/how-power-steering-manual-184202/

everyone who replied should read this. theres pros and cons to both. and im not the first one to come up with this "dumb" idea.

manual rack= more power. less weight. frees up space in the engine bay and not to mention all oem compaired to the other method that doesnt lubricate and wears parts out faster.

doing the loop is less work and requires no different rack but you do get a shorter duration on your steering rack.

i can back this up by the 17 pages posted and its been argued for 3 years on that thread. so the rest of you do your research before you run your mouth.

SlapSmak

You are one of the first to still want to do it after you have been told it is not a good idea.


Manual rack to Looped OEM rack does NOT equal more power. The Loop method disconnects the PS Pump from the system and eliminated parasitic loss from the PS Belt. Less Weight? Maybe. The "Other Method" as you called it does in fact lubricate as the rack is still run with fluid in it, the breather is added to allow easier steering input. There is no greater wear on the rack since it is lubricated properly.

WTF does a shorter duration mean? Steering Ratio? The R rack ratio is BETTER than an EG rack. Is that what you mean?

You can back up nothing as you cant use opposing opinions to prove one side of an argument, that is a basic debate rule. not to mention, you have not done the breather method yourself and have no input on that thread. I however did the breather/Loop on my old R and loved it. If everyone is telling you it is a stupid idea, maybe it really is.

PS, you are a clown for posting 2 threads with the same question and BTW getting the same answers in both and then lipping off to everyone that is telling you not to do it..

Stinkycheezmonky

Just two things to add:

1. The EG manual rack IS several lbs lighter than a looped Integra rack. I have verified this personally, but don't remember the exact difference in weight.

2. In my experience, the EG manual rack is easier to turn (less resistance) than a looped Integra rack. The best looped rack I drove felt about the same as an EG manual rack, but none have been "easier".

The ratios are different, but aren't the end of the world in either direction in any situation I've been in, including on track. FWIW, I've had all iterations in one car or another (ITR or Civic), and am currently using the manual EG rack for simplicity and weight.

Edit: I locked the other thread because there was no point to it, with this one's existence.

Double-edit: Apathy, that is probably the most over-done looping method I've ever seen. How much is that just in fittings? I think I spent less than $4.00 using generic plumbing fittings and left-over coolant hose. Different strokes for different folks I guess... Hopefully you wrapped the SS line where it's contacting the firewall, unless you have it secured away. I have unfortunately seen that **** rub through sheet metal with enough movement and vibration.