1996 USDM ITR- Acura Press Vehicle
03-31-2009, 07:47 PM
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I disagree completely. If ITR's ever become collector cars(which I presume they will), what RPM has in his possession is the definition of, "Collector Car." Precisely because of the history and folklore. Sure, it won't match any dealer-sold ITR on the track, but how many dealer-sold ITR's can match this car's history? How many times have car enthusiasts been given a chance to buy a manufacter's "crusher?" I'm sure many car collectors would be willing to pay a fortune for just parts off prototype cars, but he's got the complete car in his possession. Amazing story RPM, thanks for sharing!
03-31-2009, 08:04 PM
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wow... you are completely missing the point. this car's value does not lie in its track worthiness. There are thousands of other integras for you to buy if you want a fast car. There aren't thousands of prototypes for people to buy even if they had the money to buy it. For this car to maintain its value, it needs to retain its VIN-matching(presumably?) B18B. If you don't understand the value of prototypes for collectors, google "rocket firing boba fett."
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03-31-2009, 08:16 PM
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Re: 1996 USDM ITR- Acura Press Vehicle
What a bunch of jealous haters....I would love to have that car and also think that it is already worth more then a regular old 97-01 Type R......That thing only has like 5,000 miles and looks like it too that alone.........
04-01-2009, 04:37 AM
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I'd love to have it to. RS shells can make good track cars.
04-01-2009, 05:07 AM
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i think this car is freaking awsome man i cant believe how many people are hating on you i appreciate you sharing this story with us
04-01-2009, 07:09 AM
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Re: 1996 USDM ITR- Acura Press Vehicle
I have been following this since the day it was posted, and have mixed feelings really. In no way shape or form am i hating, but the car is what it is..... an RS w/some history. Should the guys integra that was used for the BFGoodrich Banner also be thought of in the same manner? It was also a non-R model that some ITR decals were slapped on for advertising purposes. Yes i know, different reason.
I suppose there is some sentimental value in it being that it was used to help create the hype and cult like following that eventually came to be with owning an ITR.
However, the car is an RS that was only made to replicate what was to come. I think the car is really cool for what its worth, but there is no justification for it being locked away and stored as a collector item.
IMO, you could drive the **** out of it, wreck it, fix it, paint it nine times, and one day return it back to how it looks right now and it would still be worth the same then as it is right now
The car is cool with some interesting history, thanks for sharing. I hope you didn't burden yourself financially for it though, bc i don't think it is going to increase in value if that is what you had hoped for.
Go buy a blank armrest badge for it and have Press RS engraved in it.
I suppose there is some sentimental value in it being that it was used to help create the hype and cult like following that eventually came to be with owning an ITR.
However, the car is an RS that was only made to replicate what was to come. I think the car is really cool for what its worth, but there is no justification for it being locked away and stored as a collector item.
IMO, you could drive the **** out of it, wreck it, fix it, paint it nine times, and one day return it back to how it looks right now and it would still be worth the same then as it is right now
The car is cool with some interesting history, thanks for sharing. I hope you didn't burden yourself financially for it though, bc i don't think it is going to increase in value if that is what you had hoped for.
Go buy a blank armrest badge for it and have Press RS engraved in it.
04-01-2009, 09:13 AM
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I have been following this since the day it was posted, and have mixed feelings really. In no way shape or form am i hating, but the car is what it is..... an RS w/some history. Should the guys integra that was used for the BFGoodrich Banner also be thought of in the same manner? It was also a non-R model that some ITR decals were slapped on for advertising purposes. Yes i know, different reason.
I suppose there is some sentimental value in it being that it was used to help create the hype and cult like following that eventually came to be with owning an ITR.
However, the car is an RS that was only made to replicate what was to come. I think the car is really cool for what its worth, but there is no justification for it being locked away and stored as a collector item.
IMO, you could drive the **** out of it, wreck it, fix it, paint it nine times, and one day return it back to how it looks right now and it would still be worth the same then as it is right now
The car is cool with some interesting history, thanks for sharing. I hope you didn't burden yourself financially for it though, bc i don't think it is going to increase in value if that is what you had hoped for.
Go buy a blank armrest badge for it and have Press RS engraved in it.
I suppose there is some sentimental value in it being that it was used to help create the hype and cult like following that eventually came to be with owning an ITR.
However, the car is an RS that was only made to replicate what was to come. I think the car is really cool for what its worth, but there is no justification for it being locked away and stored as a collector item.
IMO, you could drive the **** out of it, wreck it, fix it, paint it nine times, and one day return it back to how it looks right now and it would still be worth the same then as it is right now
The car is cool with some interesting history, thanks for sharing. I hope you didn't burden yourself financially for it though, bc i don't think it is going to increase in value if that is what you had hoped for.
Go buy a blank armrest badge for it and have Press RS engraved in it.
And technically, the car lost it's collector appeal the second Comptech modified it. Remember, if you are going to try to put a value on it as an Acura press car, it needs to be an original Acura press car, not a press car that has a bunch of aftermarket parts on it.
As long as the OP is happy with the car, then it's all good. The rest of us just don't see the point of it and our opinions are just as valid as the OPs. Actually the OP has proven himself to be a stand up guy by realizing that none of these posts were "hating", it's only the people who can't tell the difference that keep calling it "hating".
04-01-2009, 09:40 AM
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OP, thanks for sharing. If this thread wasn't started, we wouldn't have known about it. It may not be a true R, but if it helped hype people up for the realease of R, I'm glad they didn't crush it. At least it has a story behind it. I'd like to know what Honda/Acura has on record about it. Keep her safe.
04-01-2009, 10:25 AM
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I suppose there is some sentimental value in it being that it was used to help create the hype and cult like following that eventually came to be with owning an ITR.
However, the car is an RS that was only made to replicate what was to come. I think the car is really cool for what its worth, but there is no justification for it being locked away and stored as a collector item.
IMO, you could drive the **** out of it, wreck it, fix it, paint it nine times, and one day return it back to how it looks right now and it would still be worth the same then as it is right now
However, the car is an RS that was only made to replicate what was to come. I think the car is really cool for what its worth, but there is no justification for it being locked away and stored as a collector item.
IMO, you could drive the **** out of it, wreck it, fix it, paint it nine times, and one day return it back to how it looks right now and it would still be worth the same then as it is right now
It should be driven, but I wouldn't want to DD it or track it personally. It would definitely loose value if wrecked/stripped as any other car does. It would take some modding for serious track purposes. I are too lazy to do much. Bought not built
This is a collectible whether people like that or not. Time till show. How valuable will it be. Time will tell. It most definitely will be more valuable that any other RS out there in the long run. Should it be looked at like an investment? Hell no. You'd be better off dumping $10k(just using this # as an example) into a basic savings account than holding onto this or any ITR and hoping to turn a profit in 20 or 30 years on Barrett-Jackson.
Factory R clone > DIY R clone IMO.
04-01-2009, 10:49 AM
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I just wish people would stop calling it a clone. A clone is just that, a replica of somthing. This is not a clone. It's an RS with Type R bits and decals. I mean for god's sake it's missing the MOST important thing that be able to even consider this car a clone. It's not an R. It's not an R-Clone. It's not even that significant in R history IMO as there isn't even hard evidence this is indeed the car in the press photos. Did I miss where he offered up hard proof to that claim? If so I digress on that last statement.
Unless there's proof this car is pretty insifnificant IMO.
I come from a different world b/c I'm hard core into GNXs and Turbo Buicks and believe me there are alot of clones in those cars and this is not what I or many people would even consider a clone.
Unless there's proof this car is pretty insifnificant IMO.
I come from a different world b/c I'm hard core into GNXs and Turbo Buicks and believe me there are alot of clones in those cars and this is not what I or many people would even consider a clone.
04-01-2009, 11:00 AM
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Clone/lookalike/wannabe....****ing word choice 
Does an R clone only qualify if it has 100% of ITR uniqueness? How many clones have the re-enforced rear subframe, the thicker rear wheel arches, and everything else in the diagram of the shell??
A Comptech employee did chime into this thread to confirm this is the car they received from Acura, it was their press car. OP is in touch with Acura for even more info/ "proof".
Does an R clone only qualify if it has 100% of ITR uniqueness? How many clones have the re-enforced rear subframe, the thicker rear wheel arches, and everything else in the diagram of the shell??A Comptech employee did chime into this thread to confirm this is the car they received from Acura, it was their press car. OP is in touch with Acura for even more info/ "proof".
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Clone/lookalike/wannabe....****ing word choice Does an R clone only qualify if it has 100% of ITR uniqueness? How many clones have the re-enforced rear subframe, the thicker rear wheel arches, and everything else in the diagram of the shell??
A Comptech employee did chime into this thread to confirm this is the car they received from Acura, it was their press car. OP is in touch with Acura for even more info/ "proof".
Does an R clone only qualify if it has 100% of ITR uniqueness? How many clones have the re-enforced rear subframe, the thicker rear wheel arches, and everything else in the diagram of the shell??A Comptech employee did chime into this thread to confirm this is the car they received from Acura, it was their press car. OP is in touch with Acura for even more info/ "proof".
I just found the whole thread a little on the annoying side with the secrecy only to find out it's a ho-hum gussied-up RS. I really hope he didn't pay anything more than low mileage RS money b/c in the grand scheme of things I can't see this car being worth much more than that. People who are into R's are into R's b/c of the complete package. Not b/c they are into RS's that look like one.
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Re: 1996 USDM ITR- Acura Press Vehicle
I just found the whole thread a little on the annoying side with the secrecy only to find out it's a ho-hum gussied-up RS. I really hope he didn't pay anything more than low mileage RS money b/c in the grand scheme of things I can't see this car being worth much more than that. People who are into R's are into R's b/c of the complete package. Not b/c they are into RS's that look like one.
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How ironic. I found your **** poor attitude and lack of ITR knowledge very annoying in this thread too. Maybe if you where not so uptight you would have already realised that the OP was having a little fun at the start to see where it went to. He never once said this was an actual ITR. Its a shame you can't see the grand scheme of things or even this car's importance for what it is. Maybe you should just back to GDD and leave the car side of the forum to the rest of us who appreciate it.
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BTW: I have never claimed to know everything about ITRs. I post here bc I will own one very soon. Sorry you don't care for me as a person. Then again I really don't care if some random ITR douche elitist doesnt like me. lol
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Re: 1996 USDM ITR- Acura Press Vehicle
this thread is getting out of hand
overall, it is an interesting car (not caR) if it is the actual photo shoot car. the OP isnt claiming this car to be an ITR. he is just excited because he believes he has the photo shoot car. cool for him if it is that car.
i dont think the value will ever increase with this car either because it has been modified since honda owned it, but if he believes it is the actual photo shoot car, then the value is increased to him.
nice clean, low mileage car.... too bad its not a clean, low mileage caR
keep it and enjoy it
overall, it is an interesting car (not caR) if it is the actual photo shoot car. the OP isnt claiming this car to be an ITR. he is just excited because he believes he has the photo shoot car. cool for him if it is that car.
i dont think the value will ever increase with this car either because it has been modified since honda owned it, but if he believes it is the actual photo shoot car, then the value is increased to him.
nice clean, low mileage car.... too bad its not a clean, low mileage caR
keep it and enjoy it
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i just read every post in this thread. has anyone ever heard of pre production classics? old camaros, vettes, and the like. prototype cars with NO engines in them? this one just happend to have an engine and other things so they could drive it. at first i thought comptech blew the engine and threw in something cheap. however, the truth came out and its stock. so what? i see a bunch of hate in this thread and its sad.
i think the OP was just excited to share some info he found out about his new car. stop bitching and wining.
i think the OP was just excited to share some info he found out about his new car. stop bitching and wining.
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Re: 1996 USDM ITR- Acura Press Vehicle
oh, I thought of something else too. If in fact Acura DID intend to put an LS engine in the car, instead of a readily available GSR, that makes sense in a way.
You couldn't develop an intake system at all for the GSR that would work with the c5. At least the b18b's intake manifold is a bit more in the right position.
I dunno, just throwing out guesses at this point.
You couldn't develop an intake system at all for the GSR that would work with the c5. At least the b18b's intake manifold is a bit more in the right position.
I dunno, just throwing out guesses at this point.
04-01-2009, 03:38 PM
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And, the fact that it's basically an intact, brand new pre-production ITR is just a perk. Because this thing could have landed in his garage totally trashed. But it he wound up getting it in perfect condition. This is one of those rare once in a lifetime opportunities that car nuts that collect drool over.
So when you factor in it's rarity, provenance, and the fact that USDM ITR's are now basically extinct. It's abviously a huge score.
The big picture is that your opinion is irrelevant, as mine would be if I agreed with just trashing that car as if it's some EG Civic track rat.