Brett

Maybe I'm missing something but the way I see it nitrous (Not F&F Naaaawwwzzz gay ****) is a really effective way of adding power. Probably the best hp:$ ratio I've seen. I know most people go the way of i/h/e and maybe throw a test pipe in there. You're looking at about $430 for DC 4-1 headers, $275 for Bosal catback, and $215 for AEM cai. That's about $920 for a good i/h/e setup. On the other hand I've been shopping around for a zex dry kit. I know zex isn't the best and neither is dry but it works and it's easy as hell to install. I've found zex setups for $300-$400 without even trying that hard so it's not that hard to find a zex for $350. Around here (St. Louis) it's about $60 to fill the tank. So that's $410 for a n20 setup. You can run a 75hp shot on a stock motor. I dont' know if they mean 75hp at the crank or wheels but either way it seems like 75hp for $410 is a better deal than 15hp at the wheels for $920. Not to mention that around here if you have even a quiet perf muffler you get tickets out the ***. I know that i/h/e drastically helps n20 but it's not necessary. I also know that you have to refill bottles but that's not really that bad considering all the extra $$ you'd have left from your i/h/e setup. So for my hard earned $$ it's going towards n20.

jonoknut

everyones got their likes and dislikes, some people say nitrous is cheating. . whatever tickles you pickle

neo1z

N20 really does give premature wear to motors unless you have a nice, nice setup involving fuel stuff, jacobs nmm, plugs, ignition...pushing 75 on a stock motor for a long time will wear it in a serious way. By the time youve built for n2o, you couldve put your money into other things that are there all of the time, and much more reliable. However, I also concur that initially, n2o really is the best bang for the buck in terms of straight line speed.

smallttocs

some people say the the no2 is nice becuz you only have the power when you really need it. thats true, but like someone else said, some consider it cheating and when / if you race people, most will say to pull your bottle to race "fair." its a personal opinion thing.

Stewie

The reason why alot of people don't use nos is because the fuel and nitrous is never distibuted evenly between cylinders. Our manifolds were never designed to have fuel in them. Fuel is heavier than air so it's always going to be biased and flow more into one cylinder than another. So, that's the downside of a wet shot.

But even with a dry shot, the fuel may be evenly distributed, but chances are the nos isn't. It's entered at a specific spot before the TB so by nature, it might not even flow correctly. Uneven distribution of nos is common; that's why worn out motors that used nos always have large variences between cylinders.

That leaves you with one option - DP. DP systems are expensive and require alot of labor. By the time you get done, you would be close to the price of a trubo kit.

MrFatBooty

I don't like it because it's not the "actual" horsepower of the motor. With a turbo/all-motor build/whatever you increase the amount of power the motor makes all the time, part-throttle, full-throttle, etc. All the time. With nitrous, it's there when you activate it, but the rest of the time the car is no quicker than before. Aside from that most racing venues in which you must turn to stay on the course require the bottle to be removed for safety reasons. Finally, filling up the bottle is just one more thing to keep track of.

Just my opinion, and there are plenty of people out there who love the stuff.

au-gsr

if you go nos on a factory exhaust systme you really won't see any of the benefits, because it will restrict you on flow capacity. upgrade the header intake and exhasut before you go with a fifty shot. you'll be a lot happier.

DA-nteg

yea i got the zex kit on my i/h/e/ inline zex fuel pump and test pipe onto a ls motor, and i definitaly think its good bang for your buck... jus play it safe and make sure u do a lot of research as far as maintanance... for example, i change plugs every other oil change... thas jus me...

neo1z

Saying you wont see ANY of the benefits is a bit of an overexaggeration...the gains will be a bit restricted, but on a 50 or 75 shot, still quite potent.

Brett

Anyone know whether the term "__hp nozzle" comes from the crank or wheels?

DR3AM

I would say that Nitrous isn't very reliable - some people may get away with it but most of the time it takes a toll on your motor. My friend took most of the necessary precautions when running nitrous - his set-up: an NX wet 50shot, bottle pressure NEVER over 1000psi, fuel pressure safety switch, msd window switch, plug gaps (0.035") + step colder. etc. Anyways, apparently his #3 cylinder is showing a compression reading of 0 - he's basically f'ed. He was very conservative with the nitrous as well but sometimes things like this just happen.

And then there are a few people that are lucky (in my opinion). A member of another message board used to run a 125 shot on a stock block b18c1 and he never had any problems...

If you're gonna go nitrous, just make sure you know what you're getting yourself into, that's all. Good luck

TimoneX

I'd rather add something that's always there, and doesn't take such a toll on my engine. If I were building a full time str8 line drag car, then maybe, but for a semi-daily driver N2O doesn't make all that much sense to me.

performula

It's good for that once in a while Mustang "pull up", other than that, not worth it.

I hate to stereo type our scene, but since the release of FF this NOS stuff has been ridiculous.

performula

NX sponsored FF2, new slang Nix.

Tweakmeister

where and when do you want power?

Nitrous isn't on all the time...where as bolt ons are. And you don't have to "recharge" bolt-ons.

Also, nitrous isn't legal for the street...and most of us like to rag our cars around all the time

neo1z

are you talking about SDstreetracer? That kid's car was freakish...running 12's on the stock block with his 125 shot plate kit...that ALMOST got me into the N20 world...it was amazing.

DR3AM

Yes, same guy. That was truly amazing - how is his car nowadays?

Commodore

my friend had nitrous on his miata. He had i/h/e and everything else as well. one day at the track he blew a hole in his engine block the size of a bse ball...

TimoneX

Most nitrous disaster stories are about what happens when you overdo it. Just the same I don't think it's the best approach for a street car, though the cheap HP can be tempting.

neo1z

Havent talked to him in a while --- he was a mod @ hondanet.org, but the site was moved, and noone really ever went back. I'm not sure how the car is...but he ran that shot for 2 years --- for about i think 40k miles and was still going when I last talked to him. Quite impressive.

redhnda

It's not a bad idea, but personally I'll not go that direction because I want my car to last. It up to your taste 55 shot should be o.k. Anything more I would beef up the motors a little, fuel, ingition something like that.

gsrvx

Best bang for ur buck. I just don't like it because the power isn't always there. It's funny when me and my roommates wanna go to the track and they have to fill up their bottle. They're not to cheerful when they gotta go thru LA traffic for a refill.

97hb

Nitrous is very safe in the right hands. Nitrous does not wear your motor any faster than any other FI. Nitrous is NOT cheating(run what you brung BIOTCHES).

SpoonboyChoi

Nitrous is a good thing if you use caution. What i want to do with my car is add a few parts before i pu nitrous in it. I want to put in an aem fuel rail, fuel pressure regulator, and some came gears before i put nitrous in. Then they say if your running a fairly stock motor you want the nitrous to be about half of what the total horsepower you engine makes, so i'm figuing by that time my car will be making at least 120 - 140hp so i think i'd add about a 50 - 65hp shot of nitrous. I want the zex kit cause its safe and easy to install. With all the right equipment like a purge kit remote bottle opener and a safety blow down pipe incase there is to much pressure in the bottle or it might have got over filled. And thats my ideal setup right there. But before that i need a damn header.

island_son

It all depends on what your goals are. I personally am running a 75 shot on my JDM B16 CRX. But it's not my daily driver. Everything is upgraded:MSD ignition,NGK plugs,FPR,fuel pump,bottle warmer,CTR intake cam,Skunk2cam gears,DP set up,ect.... This is just my race project but I would suggest doing alot of homework on nitrous.You have to respect and understand it.I love my set up but I know how to maintain it also.You'll have fun with it.