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03-15-2005, 02:31 PM
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03-16-2005, 08:39 AM
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Re: (Bay_707)
I guess no one knows what no for sale in the states means. It means no longer available here or on the website. Very Good!!
Obviously Mugen is the first place I looked. Anyone know somebody selling their rear mugen sway bar?
Obviously Mugen is the first place I looked. Anyone know somebody selling their rear mugen sway bar?
03-16-2005, 10:09 AM
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that's fine, i value others opinions, but explain why you think that. Im on here to learn, so tell me why mugen is a rip off. what do you prefer for sway bars?
03-16-2005, 10:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1SiKTeG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that's fine, i value others opinions, but explain why you think that. Im on here to learn, so tell me why mugen is a rip off. what do you prefer for sway bars?</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you're talking about the rear sway, the best bang for your buck is the ITR sway with the BSQ. There really isn't a need to change the fronts in integras. Do a search and you'll find hundreds of threads about the ITR sway bar.
If you're talking about the rear sway, the best bang for your buck is the ITR sway with the BSQ. There really isn't a need to change the fronts in integras. Do a search and you'll find hundreds of threads about the ITR sway bar.
03-16-2005, 11:00 AM
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Re: (1SiKTeG)
which bar are you looking for?
Mugen 24mm or Mugen 26mm?
If it's the 26 mm, a few people in the ITR forum run those, so it might be worth a try asking in there.
What is the current setup you have right now?
If it's just the stock 14mm bar that comes on the gsr, I would suggest you first try the stock ITR bar which is 22mm. If you want to go a little bigger, there is the 23mm bar which comes from the japanese ITR's.
Whichever bar you chose, you will need a reinforcement kit that properly places the sway bar closer to the subframe to prevent tear-outs.
But if your still intent on a Mugen bar, best thing to do is post a WTB ad, ask around in the ITR or Road Race forum, and call some tuner shops to see if they can have one imported for you.
edit: quick search found this. pretty informative https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1110502
Modified by Mt3c at 12:12 PM 3/16/2005
Mugen 24mm or Mugen 26mm?
If it's the 26 mm, a few people in the ITR forum run those, so it might be worth a try asking in there.
What is the current setup you have right now?
If it's just the stock 14mm bar that comes on the gsr, I would suggest you first try the stock ITR bar which is 22mm. If you want to go a little bigger, there is the 23mm bar which comes from the japanese ITR's.
Whichever bar you chose, you will need a reinforcement kit that properly places the sway bar closer to the subframe to prevent tear-outs.
But if your still intent on a Mugen bar, best thing to do is post a WTB ad, ask around in the ITR or Road Race forum, and call some tuner shops to see if they can have one imported for you.
edit: quick search found this. pretty informative https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1110502
Modified by Mt3c at 12:12 PM 3/16/2005
03-16-2005, 11:13 AM
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Re: (1SiKTeG)
N00b, instead of getting snappy...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1SiKTeG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I guess no one knows what no for sale in the states means. It means no longer available here or on the website. Very Good!!
Obviously Mugen is the first place I looked. Anyone know somebody selling their rear mugen sway bar?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Use the search button:
» Search Results
Your search for mugen returned 537 results.
This was pulled out of the classifieds section. Have fun...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1SiKTeG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I guess no one knows what no for sale in the states means. It means no longer available here or on the website. Very Good!!
Obviously Mugen is the first place I looked. Anyone know somebody selling their rear mugen sway bar?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Use the search button:
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Your search for mugen returned 537 results.
This was pulled out of the classifieds section. Have fun...
03-16-2005, 01:01 PM
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Re: (Mt3c)
What is the current setup you have right now?
If it's just the stock 14mm bar that comes on the gsr, I would suggest you first try the stock ITR bar which is 22mm. If you want to go a little bigger, there is the 23mm bar which comes from the japanese ITR's.
Whichever bar you chose, you will need a reinforcement kit that properly places the sway bar closer to the subframe to prevent tear-outs.
Modified by Mt3c at 12:12 PM 3/16/2005[/QUOTE]
My setup right now is mugen front and rear strut tower bars, comptech rear (22mm) sway w/ tie bar combo, and stock front bar. I have skunk2 race spring and 5 way kybs.
I guess i dont care if its mugen or not, i just wanted it to be jdm. I'd deffinetly do the itr bar. You said for the itr bar, i would need a reinforcement kit. where would i get one of these? are tear outs common when upgrading to the itr bar? Thanks for the help.
03-16-2005, 01:40 PM
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whats wrong with the comptech sway bar? why do you want a different one? but yea, subframe tear out is very common if a larger sway bar is used without a reinforcement kit. search for BSQ or Beaks Kit.. they are cheap. I'm using the Beaks kit with Energy suspension bushings & a Skunk2 sway bar 
03-16-2005, 01:51 PM
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I know i said rear bar, but i meant front. I love my comptech rear bar. Im looking to upgrade my front bar. I dont know if i should go with mugen or an itr bar or what. So, you're saying that no matter what bar I upgrade to in front, I'll need a reinforcment kit? Just making sure. I dont know a whole lot about suspension and I want the best handling for the money. You said you had a skunk2 front with a beaks kit? How do you like it and how well does it handle? Thanks for your help!!
03-16-2005, 07:44 PM
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A subframe reinforcement kit like the beaks and bsq one are only necesary for the rear from what i understand. I was told by bsq that I would be fine running the jdm itr front swaybar without any issue. Since you're looking for a jdm front swaybar, i would suggest getting a jdm itr front swaybar from passwordjdm.com or something of the sort.
From the way i read things, you are using the comptech rear sway with no subframe reinforcement. That probably isn't the best idea. It sure would suck to rip your subframe all to hell.
Hope that cleared some things up. Good luck with your project.
From the way i read things, you are using the comptech rear sway with no subframe reinforcement. That probably isn't the best idea. It sure would suck to rip your subframe all to hell.
Hope that cleared some things up. Good luck with your project.
03-17-2005, 11:53 AM
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use the qoute button right above the text box
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1SiKTeG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im looking to upgrade my front bar. I dont know if i should go with mugen or an itr bar or what..... I dont know a whole lot about suspension and I want the best handling for the money. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Before you spend anymore money, find out what each piece of the suspension does, and how it will affect your handling when you adjust things.
Typically for a front wheel drive car, like our integras, increasing the front sway/stablizer bar rate will create a bit more understeer.
And increasing the rear sway/stablizer bar rate will create more oversteer.
Stock 3rd gen integras come from the factory with either a 22mm, or 24mm front sway bar (USDM), which is pretty big.
Are you sure you still want to increase the sway bar diameter? You can also just get stiffer sway bar bushings.
There are lots of books out there, and threads to learn from. Try searching and learning before you spend/waste money.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1SiKTeG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im looking to upgrade my front bar. I dont know if i should go with mugen or an itr bar or what..... I dont know a whole lot about suspension and I want the best handling for the money. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Before you spend anymore money, find out what each piece of the suspension does, and how it will affect your handling when you adjust things.
Typically for a front wheel drive car, like our integras, increasing the front sway/stablizer bar rate will create a bit more understeer.
And increasing the rear sway/stablizer bar rate will create more oversteer.
Stock 3rd gen integras come from the factory with either a 22mm, or 24mm front sway bar (USDM), which is pretty big.
Are you sure you still want to increase the sway bar diameter? You can also just get stiffer sway bar bushings.
There are lots of books out there, and threads to learn from. Try searching and learning before you spend/waste money.
03-17-2005, 12:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mt3c »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">use the qoute button right above the text box
Before you spend anymore money, find out what each piece of the suspension does, and how it will affect your handling when you adjust things.
Typically for a front wheel drive car, like our integras, increasing the front sway/stablizer bar rate will create a bit more understeer.
And increasing the rear sway/stablizer bar rate will create more oversteer.
Stock 3rd gen integras come from the factory with either a 22mm, or 24mm front sway bar (USDM), which is pretty big.
Are you sure you still want to increase the sway bar diameter? You can also just get stiffer sway bar bushings.
There are lots of books out there, and threads to learn from. Try searching and learning before you spend/waste money.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I am still learning and ive hear ddifferent things from different people. One guy told me that the 94 gsr came with a 14mm front bar. Thats why i wanted to upgrade, but if its a 22mm bar, maybe ill just get stiffer bushings like you said. Thanks for the reply.
Before you spend anymore money, find out what each piece of the suspension does, and how it will affect your handling when you adjust things.
Typically for a front wheel drive car, like our integras, increasing the front sway/stablizer bar rate will create a bit more understeer.
And increasing the rear sway/stablizer bar rate will create more oversteer.
Stock 3rd gen integras come from the factory with either a 22mm, or 24mm front sway bar (USDM), which is pretty big.
Are you sure you still want to increase the sway bar diameter? You can also just get stiffer sway bar bushings.
There are lots of books out there, and threads to learn from. Try searching and learning before you spend/waste money.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I am still learning and ive hear ddifferent things from different people. One guy told me that the 94 gsr came with a 14mm front bar. Thats why i wanted to upgrade, but if its a 22mm bar, maybe ill just get stiffer bushings like you said. Thanks for the reply.
03-17-2005, 01:34 PM
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Thanks for the reply bro. everybody says something different. Do you know what size my factory gsr bar is? Why is mugen a waste of money? what do you suggest?
03-17-2005, 03:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1SiKTeG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks for the reply bro. everybody says something different. Do you know what size my factory gsr bar is? Why is mugen a waste of money? what do you suggest?</TD></TR></TABLE>are you still referring to the front sway bar? the factory front is 24mm for gsr's and the mugen version is 26mm. rgbpmp showed pictures of the rear sway bar, which is what you would need a kit for. you don't need that reinforcement kit if you're replacing the front...
the reinforcement kit he shoed is for the rear sway bar and is to prevent the bar from tearing out your subframe. your comptech bar came with a kit already.
the reinforcement kit he shoed is for the rear sway bar and is to prevent the bar from tearing out your subframe. your comptech bar came with a kit already.