chrisquin23

So i have a j spec GSR my car hits vtec when i first start the car for a couple of runs but after that it wont hit vtec anymore till i stop turn the car off and turn it back on. Some people said my ECU might be bad so i tried on a virgin p28 and my problem continued. So when i plugged my ECU back on (chipped ECU from Phereable) my car just didnt start anymore. It has spark and gas , just dont know whats going on. Any input would be great!

Another problem i had before this happened was this https://honda-tech.com/forums/acura-integra-6/gsr-iat-senser-cel-code10-2815560/




^^^^^NOT MY CAR PIC FOR VIEWS ONLY^^^^^

mouab18c1

iTrader: (5)

Try switchin to the p28 again and see if it will start.

chrisquin23

i tried that and it still didnt work

Ive tested gas, distributor, plugs, cables, cap and rotor and power

racebum

if you have spark and you have gas, start back at square 1 with a compression test. unhook the distributor and do a compression test. get the numbers and we'll go from there

LS_VTECteggy

by virgin p28 im guessing you haven't chipped it so if it truly is a virgin p28 there is no way your car is gonna start easily, that ecu is made for single cam and your trying to start a dual cam on there.... that's gonna equal car shitting out

iH8RICERZ

iTrader: (1)

untrue... I've had to test a virgin p28 ecu in the past on my GSR when I was chipping and selling ecu's. My gsr started perfectly fine but I shut it off right away since, as you said, are for a single cam. Have you tried resetting the ecu? Unplug the negative terminal for 5 minutes and plug it back and try starting the car with your phearable chipped ecu. Also, try opening up that ecu and look to see if anything is burnt on the board. Also, check your connections, sensors, vtec solenoid, etc. You could just have a bad connection some where. Start troubleshooting and hopefully you'll find the issue. ALSO, try some one elses ecu in your car and see if that works

LS_VTECteggy

never said it wouldn't start... just said it wouldn't be good for the car....

TheStig187

check for loose connections under the hood as well as the ecu pinouts, looks like somethings loose.

chrisquin23

I literally drove the car around the block with the p28 and stopped in the corner unplugged it and put my ecu back on and nothing happened. So i doubt i would need a compression test. Im thinking it has something to do with the way i unplugged the cables from the ecu or whatever not sure. I checked all my grounds and still nothing. I tried another ecu and still nothing. And ive already tried resetting the ecu already

racebum

think all you want. when you have a no start condition you start at square 1 and go down the list until the car starts. or you can keep chasing it in the dark.

chrisquin23

Anyone else?!

K20egcw

Any check engine lights?

racebum

i already can see where this is going. you're going to post on here asking people to magically figure it out. then, if they don't you'll try random **** and you might even get lucky. all of which is still more time and work than a proper no start test procedure. or you could take it to a shop and they will........

1. compression test, if good move to:
2. spark on every cylinder, do you have it? if good move to
3. fuel pressure, is it above 40psi, if yes move to
4. check injector impedance, if within spec move to
5. grounds and ecu connections, is it communicating with a scan tool, if yes move to
6. starting your car because an engine will fire with the above working

side note, if your timing belt jumped a tooth you'll still have compression but the numbers will be low. a gsr with 140psi or there abouts.

chrisquin23

So i got the car started but its running super retarded now. It idles really bad and its not even driveable.

racebum

often a compression and or cam timing issue. belt jumped or a burned valve from your screwball tune.

the other thing i have seen do this is bad spark plug wires oddly enough

lynxs1981

One thing I haven't seen, unless I overlooked it, are you running an ecu for the jdm?

chrisquin23

I had a mechanic look at it today and said my car doesnt sound like its on timing. Is there a DIY for setting the motor on timing. I know i have to take off the driver side mount and all the plastic covers. But does anyone have a picture of how the arrows on the camshafts have to point ( my guess is up ), and the other points on the bottom.

racebum

which you would have found out in an instant had you listened to what i told you about a compression test last week

K20egcw

Just mark the crank pulley to the TDC mark, take off the valve cover and the top plastics and you should be alright to check it and set timing if its needed. The arrows on the cam gears should point up and there should be 2 little notches that will line up with eachother. With the those lined up and the bottom at TDC you engine will be in time.

racebum

that's the short of it. also a complete write up on timing belt changes if he searched for it

chrisquin23

Update: Checked compression and tried on yet again another brand new distributor and nothing happened. Theres a little jump in the motor like if it tries to start when im turning back the ignition 0.o its really weird. The spark looks kinda weak. Also changed the plugs and cables.

TOO MUCH TORQUE

your engine strut tower is on backwards...so if you're wondering why your car creeks.......

and also.....

you grounded your engine wrong. it suppose to connect to a valve cover stud

and also.....

i'd put back on the header's heatshield. all you're doing is increasing the engine bay temp causing potential potential powerloss due to the SRI

setting the timing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGzxCCaxDjI

chrisquin23

Read under the picture where it says thats not a pic of my car genious

Jidum_DC

okay what kind of sound does your car make when you try to start it
like does it try to turnover or does it just make a tick sound?
an when you start it are you hear the fuel pump kick on?

chrisquin23

the car sounds normal, like a car that doesnt want to turn on. It has fuel i have a fuel guage and from what it looks like the car IS getting spark but it looks kinda weak.