Crank Pulley Wobble
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Re: Crank Pulley Wobble
Ok guys, sorry I have not updated this thread in a while, christmas new years, etc parties and all that jazz. I bought the crank pulley tool off amazon to hold the crank. So today I pulled it apart again and took some pics of the crank pulley. I dont really see anything wrong with it? Not really sure what to do next. The pulley looks fine except being dirty and the key looks fine also. Should i just put it back together and hope it doesnt wobble and engage the clutch weird?
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when the pulley is on and the car is running, does the pulley wobble change when the clutch is pressed/depressed?
I feel like a thrust bearing/crank walk may be on its way?
A whirring noise from the belt side is sometimes a timing belt that is too tight. Or the tensioner/idler bearing are worn... are they newer at all?
I feel like a thrust bearing/crank walk may be on its way?
A whirring noise from the belt side is sometimes a timing belt that is too tight. Or the tensioner/idler bearing are worn... are they newer at all?
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when the pulley is on and the car is running, does the pulley wobble change when the clutch is pressed/depressed?
I feel like a thrust bearing/crank walk may be on its way?
A whirring noise from the belt side is sometimes a timing belt that is too tight. Or the tensioner/idler bearing are worn... are they newer at all?
I feel like a thrust bearing/crank walk may be on its way?
A whirring noise from the belt side is sometimes a timing belt that is too tight. Or the tensioner/idler bearing are worn... are they newer at all?
The timing belt was replaced a little over a year ago by a shop who sucked and I ended uphaving to do it again about a month ago.
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i'd have to say that the harmonic balancer is shot. the function of the balancer is to absorb engine vibration. if it's not doing it's job, clutch engagement could be rough.
i'd change that balancer. see if it cures your issue
i'd change that balancer. see if it cures your issue
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Re: Crank Pulley Wobble
How would you know if its shot? Looks perfectly fine, just dirty to me.
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Crank pulley washer needs to go on with the concave side out, convex side toward the motor. Did you put it on that way? I guess if you really toasted your thrust bearings, clutch engagement could be screwy, but I'm not sure bc I've never had one of those fail.
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After my engine was rebuilt mine started wobbling with no problem prior to that. And as it did it's wobble dance the only thing I noticed was the sound, there was no other indication. That's the way it is with older cars, sometimes disassembling them and putting them back is enough to invite failure of adjoining parts.
That said, I don't think you'll be happy until you put it back on and see if it still wobbles. Make sure you do it correctly, however, at that point if it does I wouldn't get to wound up in any exotic A-symptomatic cause just because you can't visualize the apparent condition of the membrane not withstanding the G force of a spinning engine.
At that point you may have to just join the ranks of the thousands of people who replaced their wobbling harmonic balancer and were done.
Or not.
That said, I don't think you'll be happy until you put it back on and see if it still wobbles. Make sure you do it correctly, however, at that point if it does I wouldn't get to wound up in any exotic A-symptomatic cause just because you can't visualize the apparent condition of the membrane not withstanding the G force of a spinning engine.
At that point you may have to just join the ranks of the thousands of people who replaced their wobbling harmonic balancer and were done.
Or not.
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Re: Crank Pulley Wobble
After my engine was rebuilt mine started wobbling with no problem prior to that. And as it did it's wobble dance the only thing I noticed was the sound, there was no other indication. That's the way it is with older cars, sometimes disassembling them and putting them back is enough to invite failure of adjoining parts.
That said, I don't think you'll be happy until you put it back on and see if it still wobbles. Make sure you do it correctly, however, at that point if it does I wouldn't get to wound up in any exotic A-symptomatic cause just because you can't visualize the apparent condition of the membrane not withstanding the G force of a spinning engine.
At that point you may have to just join the ranks of the thousands of people who replaced their wobbling harmonic balancer and were done.
Or not.
That said, I don't think you'll be happy until you put it back on and see if it still wobbles. Make sure you do it correctly, however, at that point if it does I wouldn't get to wound up in any exotic A-symptomatic cause just because you can't visualize the apparent condition of the membrane not withstanding the G force of a spinning engine.
At that point you may have to just join the ranks of the thousands of people who replaced their wobbling harmonic balancer and were done.
Or not.
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I had a similar problem recently. My crank pulley bolt fell out. I found it on the side of the road a couple of miles back, and put it back in.(had my tools) To make a long story short the woodruff key had fallen out, and i could not find it. I drove it home and the pulley ground itself out around the crank nose.(It cost me about 300 to replace it but it was also shot the rubber separated) It wobbled pretty bad, but i never had a problem going in first. I stopped at probably 5 red lights on the way home. I'm thinking clutch issue just from my experience.
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Re: Crank Pulley Wobble
So tomorrow I'm going to my local pick n pull: http://www.picknpull.com/check_inven...ra&Distance=20
There are two 3rd tegs at the Fairfield pick n pull. How should I decide which car to pick it from? Which ever one has less miles?
What if the teg I pull it from has more miles than my car? I just hit 100k.
There are two 3rd tegs at the Fairfield pick n pull. How should I decide which car to pick it from? Which ever one has less miles?
What if the teg I pull it from has more miles than my car? I just hit 100k.
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if u dont make sure that wobble goes away this will be your result..
The key will come loose and eat your keyway to **** on the crankshaft and the harmonic pulley, thus rendering your crankshaft broken and the key, and the pully.
you can then get a new key and try and make it fit in the keyway but it will not because the keyway will be scored badly on both the crankshaft and pulley, so ull need a new pulley b4 u even start anything on the crankshaft.. u will then have to resize the keyway and use a bigger key which i dont think they make or scrap the crankshaft and rip apart your bottom end to replace the crankshaft.. at this point its better to get a new block all together..
cause crankshaft work is bullshit.
this happened to me in my old civic, i sold the thing cause even after a mechanic miraculously fixed it and even used thread locker on the bolt when putting it all back in and jimmyed it up, it happened again in 1 months time, so to be honest.
take it apart n fix it right while u still have the motor and block and crank in good standing
The key will come loose and eat your keyway to **** on the crankshaft and the harmonic pulley, thus rendering your crankshaft broken and the key, and the pully.
you can then get a new key and try and make it fit in the keyway but it will not because the keyway will be scored badly on both the crankshaft and pulley, so ull need a new pulley b4 u even start anything on the crankshaft.. u will then have to resize the keyway and use a bigger key which i dont think they make or scrap the crankshaft and rip apart your bottom end to replace the crankshaft.. at this point its better to get a new block all together..
cause crankshaft work is bullshit.
this happened to me in my old civic, i sold the thing cause even after a mechanic miraculously fixed it and even used thread locker on the bolt when putting it all back in and jimmyed it up, it happened again in 1 months time, so to be honest.
take it apart n fix it right while u still have the motor and block and crank in good standing
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if u dont make sure that wobble goes away this will be your result..
The key will come loose and eat your keyway to **** on the crankshaft and the harmonic pulley, thus rendering your crankshaft broken and the key, and the pully.
you can then get a new key and try and make it fit in the keyway but it will not because the keyway will be scored badly on both the crankshaft and pulley, so ull need a new pulley b4 u even start anything on the crankshaft.. u will then have to resize the keyway and use a bigger key which i dont think they make or scrap the crankshaft and rip apart your bottom end to replace the crankshaft.. at this point its better to get a new block all together..
cause crankshaft work is bullshit.
this happened to me in my old civic, i sold the thing cause even after a mechanic miraculously fixed it and even used thread locker on the bolt when putting it all back in and jimmyed it up, it happened again in 1 months time, so to be honest.
The key will come loose and eat your keyway to **** on the crankshaft and the harmonic pulley, thus rendering your crankshaft broken and the key, and the pully.
you can then get a new key and try and make it fit in the keyway but it will not because the keyway will be scored badly on both the crankshaft and pulley, so ull need a new pulley b4 u even start anything on the crankshaft.. u will then have to resize the keyway and use a bigger key which i dont think they make or scrap the crankshaft and rip apart your bottom end to replace the crankshaft.. at this point its better to get a new block all together..
cause crankshaft work is bullshit.
this happened to me in my old civic, i sold the thing cause even after a mechanic miraculously fixed it and even used thread locker on the bolt when putting it all back in and jimmyed it up, it happened again in 1 months time, so to be honest.
Can you elaborate on this?
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Re: Crank Pulley Wobble
I just dropped by the fairfield pick n pull and got a harmonic balancer off a 95' integra that was there. The balancer looks in worse condition than the one I currently have. It is rusted, cracked rubber, and chippings, (I'll post pics later tonight). Cosmetics aside, i put that one i just bought on, and the same wobble is happening!
My crank is toast?
How long do I have doc?
FML!
My crank is toast?
How long do I have doc?
FML!
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Re: Crank Pulley Wobble
dont rule the crank yet.
the harmonic balancer is called the harmonic balancer for a reason, if its bad it doesnt balance properly and it will wobble.
u need to source a good known working one or buy a new one :S to know for sure unless someone else has an idea on whats up
the harmonic balancer is called the harmonic balancer for a reason, if its bad it doesnt balance properly and it will wobble.
u need to source a good known working one or buy a new one :S to know for sure unless someone else has an idea on whats up
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Re: Crank Pulley Wobble
So my balancer still wobbles, but I was told by guys at the local meet in Dublin that the wobble was not severe and that I shouldnt worry about anything. However, they checked out my car and in fact my clutch master cylinder was leaky. So we went ahead and replaced the master and slave cylinders. The problem of the clutch rarely ever happens anymore, probably because of the warmer weather? I believe my clutch is kinda worn, dont have any maintainence history when I bought the car. Currently at 101k miles.
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