B18a Burning oil
09-02-2006, 01:02 AM
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B18a Burning oil
I have a DA with a b18a Forged pistons and rods, turbo cams, titainium springs and retainers, i/h/e(going to turbo soon) and it is burning a lot of oil. I mean A LOT. I have only driven it like 100 miles and it has like one quart. There is quite a bit of black smoe coming out of the exhaust and no leaking on the ground. What are some reasons why it is burning oil? Also if you have a link to write up on how to change piston rings or rod bearings(that is what i think the problem could be) please give me the link. Thankyou and Please help.
09-02-2006, 11:34 AM
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black smoke means your running rich.
blue smoke means your burning oil.
white smoke means your oil is mixing with water.
if your beating on your car a lot, your oil level will go down just how mine did yesterday hitting 140mph with my gsr in the freeway. but if you are burning massive oil you will see blue smoke coming out your exhaust if its a little im assuming every high mile car burns a little oil. try using a little thicker oil next time see how that goes.
blue smoke means your burning oil.
white smoke means your oil is mixing with water.
if your beating on your car a lot, your oil level will go down just how mine did yesterday hitting 140mph with my gsr in the freeway. but if you are burning massive oil you will see blue smoke coming out your exhaust if its a little im assuming every high mile car burns a little oil. try using a little thicker oil next time see how that goes.
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09-02-2006, 11:58 AM
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Re: (dc2rtek)
I don't run my car hard and i have only driven it about 100 miles since oil change and it burned like three quarts of oil. Could it be my valve seals? I bought Haynes manuel and i am thinking of taking apart the engine to inspect/change the piston rings and/or rod bearings but i am not experienced and i am nervouse about tearing down the whole motor. Please any inpute will help.
09-02-2006, 01:50 PM
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Re: (jdmintegralsvtec)
well when did u do get ur bottom end built? check ur rings on ur pistons. one quart for a 100 miles is horrible. are u runnin alot of boost?
09-02-2006, 02:33 PM
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the car is not turbo. i know i have turbo cams and stock compression pistons but i don't have the money to turbo it yet. How hard is it to replace the piston rings? how do i make sure it is the piston rings? Thanks for your info.
09-02-2006, 02:57 PM
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well whoever built your engine did a horrible job. Or you've been ripping too hard when its cold. Either way you gotta problem. My engine doesnt burn any oil even when ripped hard for 12 hrs straight.
Try some Lucas Oil Stabilizer. It works GREAT, and will help to lessen oil burn off and slow the oil loss.
Try some Lucas Oil Stabilizer. It works GREAT, and will help to lessen oil burn off and slow the oil loss.
09-02-2006, 03:01 PM
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Okay. How much does that cost? Do you know how hard it is to change piston rings and if it is worth it? Thanks
09-02-2006, 03:03 PM
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cost - $25. go to walmart, buy compression tester gauge, and do it yourself. if you pay a shop, i dont know.. maybe $75???
too hard if you've never done it before. if you're gonna put new rings and bearings, just take it to a shop and pay them to do it. make sure you find a good shop with a good reputation though.
too hard if you've never done it before. if you're gonna put new rings and bearings, just take it to a shop and pay them to do it. make sure you find a good shop with a good reputation though.
09-02-2006, 03:04 PM
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you need to re hone your block and check your piston rings ( i would just replace them )
how did you drive it the first 100 miles?
hard?
there is a very delicate breakin process in which you need to do when you put in rings in your car
how did you drive it the first 100 miles?
hard?
there is a very delicate breakin process in which you need to do when you put in rings in your car
09-02-2006, 03:05 PM
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Re: (92integraVTECgsr)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92integraVTECgsr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cost - $25. go to walmart, buy compression tester gauge, and do it yourself. if you pay a shop, i dont know.. maybe $75???
too hard if you've never done it before. if you're gonna put new rings and bearings, just take it to a shop and pay them to do it. make sure you find a good shop with a good reputation though.</TD></TR></TABLE>
why would he put in new bearings in his car?
too hard if you've never done it before. if you're gonna put new rings and bearings, just take it to a shop and pay them to do it. make sure you find a good shop with a good reputation though.</TD></TR></TABLE>
why would he put in new bearings in his car?
09-02-2006, 03:08 PM
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I drove it normal pretty much. took it to like 7K once or twice. nothing crazy. i bought a haynes repair manual and me and my brother were going to do it our selves. i took a engine theory at school and honed some small engines but is it really that hard?
09-02-2006, 03:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FULL-REV »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why would he put in new bearings in his car? </TD></TR></TABLE>
because he asked in his first post.
and I would NOT do it yourself. Its not worth it. Unless you have ALL the tools and experience to measure, cut the rings to the right size, hone it properly, and measure the the clearances for the bearings, i would just pay a pro to do it. you dont wanna try it yourself, then end up paying someone to fix your mistakes..
that once or twice you took it to 7000 rpm's is all it needed to expletive it up, especially if the engine was cold.
because he asked in his first post.
and I would NOT do it yourself. Its not worth it. Unless you have ALL the tools and experience to measure, cut the rings to the right size, hone it properly, and measure the the clearances for the bearings, i would just pay a pro to do it. you dont wanna try it yourself, then end up paying someone to fix your mistakes..
that once or twice you took it to 7000 rpm's is all it needed to expletive it up, especially if the engine was cold.
09-02-2006, 03:49 PM
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i dont think its worth opening your block up to replace the piston rings. i mean i wouldnt do it myself since i have no experience with building motor, but i think labor is expensive.............i rather buy a new engine to replace with the old one burning oil.
maybe your leaking massive oil from your head gasket in the back of your motor? -_-
maybe your leaking massive oil from your head gasket in the back of your motor? -_-
09-02-2006, 06:44 PM
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Piston rings are not that hard to replace. If you aren't mechanically inclined and/or can't afford down time when things don't happen as planned, pay a shop to do it.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dc2rtek »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont think its worth opening your block up to replace the piston rings. i mean i wouldnt do it myself since i have no experience with building motor, but i think labor is expensive.............i rather buy a new engine to replace with the old one burning oil.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, it is worth it. A new engine is a lot more expensive than the labor to replace piston rings.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dc2rtek »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont think its worth opening your block up to replace the piston rings. i mean i wouldnt do it myself since i have no experience with building motor, but i think labor is expensive.............i rather buy a new engine to replace with the old one burning oil.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, it is worth it. A new engine is a lot more expensive than the labor to replace piston rings.
09-02-2006, 07:08 PM
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was this a rebuild job? did you have the forged piston and cam and robs all put it by a shop? if so your problem on burning oil is that when u rebuild an engine the engine burns alot of oil during break in. you should keep the Rpms under 3000. everything in a new engine needs adjust to themself at a certain temp. and burning oil is a common thing, new parts need to be oiled alot more.!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sleeper Style »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah, it is worth it. A new engine is a lot more expensive than the labor to replace piston rings.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ehhh your right about the engine being more expensive, but your spending over $1000+ in labor just to change the piston rings.
ehhh your right about the engine being more expensive, but your spending over $1000+ in labor just to change the piston rings.
09-03-2006, 12:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dc2rtek »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ehhh your right about the engine being more expensive, but your spending over $1000+ in labor just to change the piston rings.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I paid $30 for the rings and $70 for a headgasket. I did mine in 10 hours working alone with hand tools. The dealership price for the job is around $900.
I paid $30 for the rings and $70 for a headgasket. I did mine in 10 hours working alone with hand tools. The dealership price for the job is around $900.