auto to 5 speed
10-12-2009, 11:00 AM
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auto to 5 speed
i might be gettin this 91 integra i think but its an auto and i want to change it to 5 speed i kno some of the thing i need but can anyone tell me what all i need to make it a manual?
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Re: auto to 5 speed
I can't tell you what you need to change, but I know it'll be expensive and honestly not worth it. I would find a different Integra to buy. That's my 2 cents lol.
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Re: auto to 5 speed
Transmission - This is by far the biggest part that you'll be having to purchase. You'll need to buy one that is compatible with your motor D/B/H series which ever motor you have. You can find this part at local junkyards/transmission shops.
Clutch/Flywheel/Pressure Plate - These parts are obvious in their function. I used an OEM style clutch/flywheel and pressure plate. Now, the comboinations for these are endless. Use whatever brand/style you prefer. This is one part that I HIGHLY recommend buying brand new so you don't run into any problems later on. This is one of the few parts that can take constant abuse from the driver. You can purchase these across various internet websites and autopart stores. When using the manual flywheel you will need to get manual flywheel bolts, this was pointed out to be by a user. I simply neglected to mention it.
Starter - You will need a manual starter for your new manual transmission, your automatic one will not line up correctly, thus not allowing it to work. Again, this is a part that I would recommend buying brand new because it's a very crucial part to driving your car. Again, you can purchase these at autopart stores/internet websites.
Clutch Resovir - This peice holds your clutch fluid and also the master cylindar sits on the opposite side of it. This is a part that you can buy used from a local junkyard.
Hydraulic Lines - These steel lines run from the clutch resovir, and connect to the slave cylindar. Now, there are two pieces of this line. One that connects to the cluch resovir, and the other to the slave and these two peices meet in the middle.
Slave Cylindar - This part connects to your transmission. I was lucky and my tranny already had one on it. You can purchase this part at a local junkyard.
Master Cylindar - Like I stated earlier, this peice sits on the other side of your clutch resovir and connects to the clutch pedal itself. This is a piece that I got lost on. My master cylindar never came with the cotter pin that is needed. Now, this peice connects to master cylindar to the clutch pedal itself and allows you to engage the clutch. You can find this part at an junkyard.
ECU - This is the computer portion of your car and allows it to run effectivley. You will need a manual one for which ever motor you're running. Now, you can turn you're existing automatic ECU into a manual one. Now, I'm not sure how to go about this process, I just found it easier to buy a new one. Now, I found that most junkyards don't carry these on hand. I bought mine from Honda-Tech.
Pedal Assembly - You're going to need new pedals for this. Although, you can use your existing AT Brake/Gas pedal the clutch and brake will sit EXTREAMLY close together and could result in hazerdous driving. This part can be purchased from a junkyard.
Throttle Cable - This is the part that I never had and never knew I would need. My EG At throttle cable WOULD NOT work due to this mechanism that is found the on the AT gas pedal. With the manual pedal, the cable has a bigger end that goes into the car and allows it to sit securly on the gas pedal. Again, can be purchased from a junkyard.
Shift Linkage - This the peice that connects the shifter to the transmission and allows you to shift gears. As long as these peices aren't bent it will function properly. Again, junkyard for this peice.
Manual Console Piece - Your AT console peice will not work with a shift boot (well, you can modify it). I found one in mint condition for cheap, so I just picked that up. Junkyard it.
Shift Boot - Now, you don't 'need' this part or the shift boot for the car to function properly it just cleans up the interior. Junk yard it.
Shift **** - Peice that sits on the top of the shifter. Junkyard it.
Shifter - Now, you may want to use an OEM shifter or a short shifter. I use a Tenzo short shifter and I'm happy with it. Junkyard or website/autoparts store.
Shifter Bushings - You'll need several bushings for the shift linkage so it sits nice and tight, I purchased these parts brand new from Honda.
Mounts - A lot of people are under the belief that you can use an OEM top manual mount on your automatic chassi. This is incorrect, well you can use one but you will need to weld it to the tranny. I picked up a mount from JDMSh!t.com, the good thing about this mount is that it's made for an automatic chassi, and also a manual transmission. It's 100% bolt up. Placeracing.com/Hasport also make similar mounts.
Now, I mentioned 'mounts'. Yes, you will need more than one. I just mentioned the upper mount, the other mount is referred to as the front/lower mount. You can use an OEM manual mount for this one, it'll bolt directly to the frame of the car.
Clutch/Flywheel/Pressure Plate - These parts are obvious in their function. I used an OEM style clutch/flywheel and pressure plate. Now, the comboinations for these are endless. Use whatever brand/style you prefer. This is one part that I HIGHLY recommend buying brand new so you don't run into any problems later on. This is one of the few parts that can take constant abuse from the driver. You can purchase these across various internet websites and autopart stores. When using the manual flywheel you will need to get manual flywheel bolts, this was pointed out to be by a user. I simply neglected to mention it.
Starter - You will need a manual starter for your new manual transmission, your automatic one will not line up correctly, thus not allowing it to work. Again, this is a part that I would recommend buying brand new because it's a very crucial part to driving your car. Again, you can purchase these at autopart stores/internet websites.
Clutch Resovir - This peice holds your clutch fluid and also the master cylindar sits on the opposite side of it. This is a part that you can buy used from a local junkyard.
Hydraulic Lines - These steel lines run from the clutch resovir, and connect to the slave cylindar. Now, there are two pieces of this line. One that connects to the cluch resovir, and the other to the slave and these two peices meet in the middle.
Slave Cylindar - This part connects to your transmission. I was lucky and my tranny already had one on it. You can purchase this part at a local junkyard.
Master Cylindar - Like I stated earlier, this peice sits on the other side of your clutch resovir and connects to the clutch pedal itself. This is a piece that I got lost on. My master cylindar never came with the cotter pin that is needed. Now, this peice connects to master cylindar to the clutch pedal itself and allows you to engage the clutch. You can find this part at an junkyard.
ECU - This is the computer portion of your car and allows it to run effectivley. You will need a manual one for which ever motor you're running. Now, you can turn you're existing automatic ECU into a manual one. Now, I'm not sure how to go about this process, I just found it easier to buy a new one. Now, I found that most junkyards don't carry these on hand. I bought mine from Honda-Tech.
Pedal Assembly - You're going to need new pedals for this. Although, you can use your existing AT Brake/Gas pedal the clutch and brake will sit EXTREAMLY close together and could result in hazerdous driving. This part can be purchased from a junkyard.
Throttle Cable - This is the part that I never had and never knew I would need. My EG At throttle cable WOULD NOT work due to this mechanism that is found the on the AT gas pedal. With the manual pedal, the cable has a bigger end that goes into the car and allows it to sit securly on the gas pedal. Again, can be purchased from a junkyard.
Shift Linkage - This the peice that connects the shifter to the transmission and allows you to shift gears. As long as these peices aren't bent it will function properly. Again, junkyard for this peice.
Manual Console Piece - Your AT console peice will not work with a shift boot (well, you can modify it). I found one in mint condition for cheap, so I just picked that up. Junkyard it.
Shift Boot - Now, you don't 'need' this part or the shift boot for the car to function properly it just cleans up the interior. Junk yard it.
Shift **** - Peice that sits on the top of the shifter. Junkyard it.
Shifter - Now, you may want to use an OEM shifter or a short shifter. I use a Tenzo short shifter and I'm happy with it. Junkyard or website/autoparts store.
Shifter Bushings - You'll need several bushings for the shift linkage so it sits nice and tight, I purchased these parts brand new from Honda.
Mounts - A lot of people are under the belief that you can use an OEM top manual mount on your automatic chassi. This is incorrect, well you can use one but you will need to weld it to the tranny. I picked up a mount from JDMSh!t.com, the good thing about this mount is that it's made for an automatic chassi, and also a manual transmission. It's 100% bolt up. Placeracing.com/Hasport also make similar mounts.
Now, I mentioned 'mounts'. Yes, you will need more than one. I just mentioned the upper mount, the other mount is referred to as the front/lower mount. You can use an OEM manual mount for this one, it'll bolt directly to the frame of the car.
10-12-2009, 01:40 PM
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Re: auto to 5 speed
i think u should be able to do with getting a pedal assembly, manual trans with cable shifter assembly instead of hydraulic and being a 91 i think it should be a cable shift anyway, and possibly an ecu but not exactly sure bout that one, u might be able to get away without the ecu....then of course u know about the flywheel, clutch, and etc.....
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Re: auto to 5 speed
well thank cuz that first dude sure as hell didnt help lol. the good thing about it is i have all the things i need. according to that list you gave me. well other than that mount. im putting a b16 trans in it can i use my b16 rear trans bracket out of my ef?
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not sure about the mount but i would check ebay i have been on there loooking for mounts for my car and they got a **** load of differnt mounts so chances are u can find one there and cheap too...GL on the convert
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thanks i have to rebuild the b18 at the same time lol. so ill have alot of fun. does anyone else kno about this whole mount thing. is the mount moved a lil on the chasis between the auto and manual chasis?
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Re: auto to 5 speed
I'm doing a auto to manual swap on my 95 eg..
biggest things to note on.
I went ahead and drilled off the spot welded Auto trans side bracket, and bought a manual bracket for like 15 bucks.. and had it welded right up.
Also, had 2 sets of axles 1 auto, 1 manual, they are not the same, you need manual axles..
you're going to need to buy some small parts here and there, nuts, cotter pins, possibly other bolts you may need to cut off ( like my collector to cat bolts)...
and honestly, the biggest pain in the ***, which is where I am at now on my swap.. is the pedal assembly. It's a bitttch to get to, and I would suggest going to a junk yard and hopefully finding a car not totally stripped, getting yourself the pedal set, master cylinder, reservoir, etc... do yourself a favor too, by yourself a braided clutch line, would save you some time and they are cheap and well worth it.
if you got any questions pm me... it's not that hard of a job, once the parts are gathered up. All I am lacking is pedals, master cylinder, clutch line... I've spent about 150 bucks, that includes oil/coolant. Then again, I already had the transmission, clutch, slave cylinder, shift linkage, and I'm using the same d16.
biggest things to note on.
I went ahead and drilled off the spot welded Auto trans side bracket, and bought a manual bracket for like 15 bucks.. and had it welded right up.
Also, had 2 sets of axles 1 auto, 1 manual, they are not the same, you need manual axles..
you're going to need to buy some small parts here and there, nuts, cotter pins, possibly other bolts you may need to cut off ( like my collector to cat bolts)...
and honestly, the biggest pain in the ***, which is where I am at now on my swap.. is the pedal assembly. It's a bitttch to get to, and I would suggest going to a junk yard and hopefully finding a car not totally stripped, getting yourself the pedal set, master cylinder, reservoir, etc... do yourself a favor too, by yourself a braided clutch line, would save you some time and they are cheap and well worth it.
if you got any questions pm me... it's not that hard of a job, once the parts are gathered up. All I am lacking is pedals, master cylinder, clutch line... I've spent about 150 bucks, that includes oil/coolant. Then again, I already had the transmission, clutch, slave cylinder, shift linkage, and I'm using the same d16.
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