I got a CRX parking pole assembly w/swich (yes, I purchased JDM rice. Sue me!)

I've already figured out how to mount it [on my passenger side so it is at least functional] , and the wiring can't be any simpler.

It's simple - up/down, and a light.

What I don't understand, however, is what prevents the motor from eating the gears/spine?

When you push 'up'...the pole goes up. But when it gets to the top, there's nothing to stop the current from continuing and what happens is that the motor strains and you can hear the gears clicking, which I'm sure over time will break the brittle plastic of the spine and/or the gears. So you've got to let off the switch RIGHT when it gets to the top or the pole will eat itself.

What can I wire in that will effectively cut off the current when the pole gets to the top, and vice versa for the bottom to keep the assembly from getting damaged?

I'd like to mimick what OEM power window systems use. I don't know what it's called, or what exactly it is...but I know what I need exists.

Is there something in the OEM system to prevent this? From inside the cabin there's no way you can hear the gears clicking or see that the pole is all the way down; My guess is that these things get broken very quickly from people who have a sticky trigger finger.

 

good question.....i listed this as one of the most rarest jdm parts for the crx in that thread on here but nobody said anything else about it.....i have never really seen one mounted on a rear bumper. I have no clue how it works and i wish i could help you out with your question but I hate wiring! Good luck with it and post up some pics if you get it figured out.

 

It might just control it itself. I know what with power folding mirrors even if you apply power to it when it is fully opened or folded it will not continue to make the motor work. It opens where it has to go and just stops no matter what you do to it.

 

Well I didn't get any of the wiring with the thing. Just the wiring cut at the motor and at the switch.

If I don't MANUALLY let off the switch/power it'll just continue to bog the motor down.

I don't know what I could wire in that'll make it stop so I don't ruin it.

 

I have a busted one in the garage.

I'll take a look at the insides and let you know.

There may be a control box that you are missing that is similar to the power folding mirrors.

 

I've seen a complete setup before and the only thing I'm missing is something that looks like a relay.

Is it possible to wire a relay to do this? Or is the 'relay' something that does exactly what I need and I'll have to hunt it down?

 

I haven't seen the switch!
Is the switch an up down one?
Or is it a momentary switch - you press it once, the pole comes up, press it again, the pole goes down.

The power folding mirrors are mementary switches.
That's what the black box (probably the same thing you are calling a relay) is.

I believe they detect current load so when the mirrors start drawing a bunch of power they stop trying to fold.

 

Well, the switch is a momentary switch in the sense that when you release the 'up' or 'down' portion of it, it will return to the nuetral/middle automatically.


But I'm nearly positive that if you keep either function (up or down) pushed in the motor will continue to run, regardless of how far extended the pole is.

Ideally I'd like power to the motor to stop at this point despite the switch still being pushed.

 

first of all there is no such thing on OEM windows. i have an LX and stripped the pass. side holding it in the up position.

second (and i dont know how u would design it) u could extend the pole below the bumper and put a magnet on it. then put a reed swich on the top and bottom of the travel. a reed swich is a little glass-encased swich that opens or closes a circut when a magneit is near it. when the pole is at the top or botteom it would open the circut shuting down the motor nomater how long u hold the switch.

BTW JDM,USDM,EDM or autoszone rice is nice!! i love nice rice!!!!

 

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I'm not sure what you mean by this.

When you window goes all the way up or down and the switch is still pushed, you do not hear the motor turning...you would hear it straining, but it does not.

Why?

 

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I'm not sure what you mean by this.

When you window goes all the way up or down and the switch is still pushed, you do not hear the motor turning...you would hear it straining, but it does not.

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it does strain but the motor but the motor is in "stall" meaning it has power but cant turn. on my LX, at night without my egine runing i role up the windows and all my idiot lights dim and headlights dim from the curent draw of the P/W motor. i even mesured the curent and it's like 2 amps runing and ~14 stalled.

 

Okay.

Well is it possible to make the motor on this parking pole stall out? It's way too powerful for the plastic gears/plastic spine; I'm confident that it can easily snap them.

Can I make it stall out BEFORE it puts stress on the gears?

 

when it's stalled IT IS STRESSED the motor is stalling because the gears wont let it move; so if u have plastic gears u could very easly strip the grars or what i call shaft spinning where the motor spins it's shaft inside the gear drilling it out and making the gear useless. could u take a pic of the motor assembly and motor i can tell ya what kind of motor it is to see if your dealing with an amp or 10.

Yes staling out a motor is a bad thing and can cause wire to melt or fuses to blow.

the P/W is difffrent because it uses metel gears and levers to convert the roatery action to linear (up / down) action.

 

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i have oem windows

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JC18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">when it's stalled IT IS STRESSED the motor is stalling because the gears wont let it move; so if u have plastic gears u could very easly strip the grars or what i call shaft spinning where the motor spins it's shaft inside the gear drilling it out and making the gear useless. could u take a pic of the motor assembly and motor i can tell ya what kind of motor it is to see if your dealing with an amp or 10.

Yes staling out a motor is a bad thing and can cause wire to melt or fuses to blow.

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I realize that when it's stalled it's stressed.

That's why I asked if there's a way to make it stall out BEFORE it puts the stress on the gears.

I guess I'll just try to rig up a metal 'stop' gear into the assembly or something. I can see that I won't be able to do what I want electrically.

 

uhh, what does it this "parking pole" do ?

 

It's a plastic pole that come out from inside the bumper.
When it's fully up you have a better feeling for where your bumper is for tight JDM parking.

 

It is mounted on the opposite (from the driver) bumper corner and when you're wanting to park in a tight spot you push the switch and a pole extends upwards.

The USPS jeep/truck things have them, but they're not power operated.

Most Semi trucks have them as well, again, generally not power operated.



It's obviously up in this picture, but it retracts down into the bumper.

 

any one get this to work?

 

Speaking of poles, here is the non-powered version.

 

Free bump. That is the gayest thing I have ever seen. Not becasue its jdm its just funny all together. Thank you i've never seen that before.....jdm pole..... Awesome. Anyone got any jdm pepsi???

 

Yeah it's kind of odd, just thought I'd share it for fun.

 

no jdm pepsi only coke

 

Were these power parking poles (PPP?) available on all Jap 88-91 Civics and CRXs?

What about power windows with the auto-down feature? They must have some way of detecting current draw. Other wise when you hit full down the motor would stall until you press the button again. Might want to look into that. HTH

 

Hmm never seen a non-powered one before, so it just says up all the time?