Here's the story. I bought this ECU off eBay, but it was NOT what I wanted. I wanted (and still want) a 96 USDM P13 ECU since it has no immobilizer but still OBD2. The title of the auction was "96 prelude DOHC Vtec H22A P13 ECU -5 speed-." I emailed the guy asking him whether it was JDM or not, so he "calls the dealership." He then tells me "I'm 99% sure it's not JDM." I won the auction and I got it the other day. I notice that one ****** mount is broken, but it's nothin big. Then I ask v4lu3s, a fellow member on here, if the part # is JDM or not. It's ****** JDM! Here's some pics..


You can see that the middle part of that sticker has been scratched off. Another potential way of telling whether it's JDM, USDM, 5-Speed, or Auto.


It's JDM!


This is where I need help.

Telling from the plugs, is this for a 5-Speed or Auto? v4lu3s wasn't sure (thanks for the help BTW).

Thanks to this ****** bastard and his inaccurate info, I now have a JDM ECU I don't need, so please, anybody who needs one, make me an offer. I have no vouches as of yet, so if you don't trust me, I'll put it on eBay for you so you can "Buy It Now" or whatever. Thanks.

 

You can't tell if it's auto or 5 speed. For sure it's 4WS. And the C plug MAY be used for TCS in Japan.

 

4WS? TCS? Please explain. If I can't sell this because nobody wants it, I'm reporting this guy to eBay.

 

I believe it is a 5spd from the J in the last 3 digits or a 0 in the second spot, I forget. But yes, it is a 4 wheel steering ECU.

 

4W on the label means that that car had a 4 wheel steering system.
As you can see there are 4 sockets for plugs in that ECU (ABCD). Usually 3 of them are used: AB and D. This C socket MAY (and probably is) used for Traction Control System met in JDM preludes (yes, they had it those years, yummie).

 

Do you know if people would buy this ECU?

 

If a car is:
USDM- possible CEL because not having TCS- not crucial I think
Euro- for sure CEL on knock sensor and electric load detector (I checked USDM ECU in my car and Japanese have those systems too) and TCS

Maybe someone with JDM imported car in England/Australia (right hand driven generally) will need this ECU...

 

Will this ECU still work fine with any JDM h22?


Modified by OutlawCL at 10:19 PM 9/4/2004

 

Generally yes except CEL for not having TCS.

 

So how exactly would I sell this? What should I label this as?

Anybody else have some helpful information?

 

Help! Still not sure whether it's 5 speed or auto..

 

Look at what the idiot seller who screwed me over sent me..

you're a ******* *******, I went out of my way to leave you good feedback then your going to try to bash me and say i sold you a "damaged" ECU? Call up any honda shop in this world and they'll tell you that you got the correct ecu, the ones in my town sure did, because and H22A is an H22A nomatter what country it is from. I told you you couldnt get your money back if it didnt work for you, mainly because thats a ****** hassle. thanks for being a dick and go resell the ecu... I should have just taken your money and not sent the damn thing, then maybe you'd have a reason to leave negative feedback, crybaby.

Wow, this guy REALLY knows what an h22a is alright!

 

well he deserves the neg. feedback he sold you a non-OBD2 as the description and that he claimed it was a USDM (99%) that's what I call false advertisement. btw I have that ecu too and works fine, it only gives you a soft code which means does not light the CEL only when you short the SCS connector. great ecu. can you post the ebay item number so that we can check his description of the ecu or his user name.

 

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you're a ******* *******, I went out of my way to leave you good feedback then your going to try to bash me and say i sold you a "damaged" ECU? Call up any honda shop in this world and they'll tell you that you got the correct ecu, the ones in my town sure did, because and H22A is an H22A nomatter what country it is from. I told you you couldnt get your money back if it didnt work for you, mainly because thats a ****** hassle. thanks for being a dick and go resell the ecu... I should have just taken your money and not sent the damn thing, then maybe you'd have a reason to leave negative feedback, crybaby.

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Whoa, what an *******. Definately give negative feedback on that one.

 

lets all give him negative feedback.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Qfactor &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well he deserves the neg. feedback he sold you a non-OBD2 as the description and that he claimed it was a USDM (99%) that's what I call false advertisement. btw I have that ecu too and works fine, it only gives you a soft code which means does not light the CEL only when you short the SCS connector. great ecu. can you post the ebay item number so that we can check his description of the ecu or his user name.</TD></TR></TABLE>

^^ what he said. Give that tool negative feedback and sell the ECU (can people be kicked off of e-bay for comments like that??) -

There is no reason why it should go for anything less than any other OBD1 P13, i have the 4-plug and it works great. if anything it's probably worth more.





Here are some pics of my numbers if that helps - if not take a pic of the board and post it up on http://PGMFI.org - you'll get an answer there.

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...%3AIT

There's the link to the item. He didn't specify OBD2 on the page, but I asked him about the ECU through emails. Here's some of the misleading information he gave me..

"I called my local honda dealership and they said that all of the 96 ECU produced were the same, there is no JDM or USDM ECU the are all universal. When do you need the ECU by???"

"I bought the ecu from a Honda shop outta state i forget where, i was going to build an H22 for my accord but ended up just buying the entire swap. Im about 99 percent sure there is no difference in ECUs and i dont want the hassle of maybe canceling a deal. Someone has already bid on it to my reserve so im not going to end auction on them. youre welcome to bid on it if you like, as i said i called the dealer and they told me there is no difference in ECUs. Thanks"

Here goes the harassment emails..

"you're a ******* *******, I went out of my way to leave you good feedback then your going to try to bash me and say i sold you a "damaged" ECU? Call up any honda shop in this world and they'll tell you that you got the correct ecu, the ones in my town sure did, because and H22A is an H22A nomatter what country it is from. I told you you couldnt get your money back if it didnt work for you, mainly because thats a ****** hassle. thanks for being a dick and go resell the ecu... I should have just taken your money and not sent the damn thing, then maybe you'd have a reason to leave negative feedback, crybaby."

Turns out that one of the mounts that were broken was done through the shipping(I found the mount later in the box), but guess what he used to pack the ECU in the box with? CRUMPLED UP GARBAGE BAGS.

"Well heres the picture of when I had the ecu its deffinitely the same ecu and the mounts not broken maybe it happened in shipment and I DID call the dealership around here and they told me there was no difference maybe theyre just idiots but I told you when you asked if it did happen to be wrong when you got it if I would cancel the deal and I said no, and you agreed to that...Oh and thanks for the nice harassing Email almighty H22 Guru man."

It wasn't broken, at least when he had it. Harassing email? I never called him any names when I emailed him. This kid is so pathetic, I can't even laugh at him.

 

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This is the missing part of the label on OultawCL's ECU I was looking for.
Yours states clearly J-MT... Japan specification with manual transmission...

 

ill give you 50 bucks

 

that seller is an asshat.
if anyone ever has a question about a usdm ecu part # check http://www.slhondaparts.com , makes it a lot easier to verify teh part # rather than fight with a no nothing on ebay.

and yes i woudl forward the email teh seller sent and complain to ebay about it. use the slhondaparts.com link to show the guy knew it wasnt the right part # or lied in teh transaction.

oh yeah and the TCS CEL wont be visible unless you check your codes, as in the light wotn trip, but when the codes are cheked it will show a 36.