http://ststurbo.com/home

check it out... you think this will be as effective as the regular setups? i don't have a honda anymore but you guys know best about turbos. I don't have much engine space on my current car for a turbo so maybe this can be an alternative for me. I'm just wondering on your views on their answers in the FAQ.

looks interesting.

 

i can imagine hydrolocking if there's a sudden downpour.

 

It woudld be nice to have it in the glove box.

 

I didn't spend too much time on the site, but I was wondering a few things:

How is the turbo going to be lubricated?
Is routing the charge piping going to be the nightmare it looks like?

What car are you driving nowadays?

 

the piping would be a nightmare but there is nothing else that would be difficult at all. i think it would suck up water also

 

well i see for the oil return there is a scaviging pump that has to pump the oil back to the pan, also the crush bent piping that gos to the turbos inlet and i wounder how much pressure drop and how responsive it is with all that piping? and wouldnt the spool up suck with the turbo that far away from the hot gases? i dont know about this one

 

i read through the site and the actual article in Turbo mag...says that the pressure drop was nearly nonexsistant and the long intake pipe acted as an intercooler....

what do some more turbo guru's think about this...

 

I personally like the idea, I would do it on a honda if I had the money.

 

What about spool time? That is a lot of charge pipe and a huuuuge header.

 

Idea is great - function however is garbage...by the time you even got your turbo to spool and then actually pump all tha tboost up front, the race would be over....

Save cash and do it correctly....

and remember...there is no replacement for a proper intercooler

There is no such this boosting cheap and being reliable...

Simple math -> cheap boost=broken parts=expesnsive repair bills

 

I would think that by the time the gases got to the turbo, they would have significantly cooled off and make spool times horrible....

also agree that the thing would suck up water and **** up the whole motor/turbo

Jon

 

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also agree that the thing would suck up water and **** up the whole motor/turbo

Jon

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exactly what he said... it works.... but wouldnt make as much power or spool like a regular turbo kit would

 

did you guys even read the site?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AceAltima &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Idea is great - function however is garbage...by the time you even got your turbo to spool and then actually pump all tha tboost up front, the race would be over....

Save cash and do it correctly....

and remember...there is no replacement for a proper intercooler

There is no such this boosting cheap and being reliable...

Simple math -&gt; cheap boost=broken parts=expesnsive repair bills</TD></TR></TABLE>

okay...............

 

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yes... even watched the video

although this kit does serve its purpose well on LT1 and LS1 cars were there is no room in the engine bay for anything else, thus you have to remote mount it. i wouldn't trust high boost on this without an intercooler.

 

The information in the FAQ's is correct regarding turbo sizing and spool characteristics. They are probably running somewhere around &lt; .4 A/R on the turbine side since the majority of vehicles they make the kit for have long exhaust systems. The long charge piping will come no where near 50% intercooling efficency since the total exposed surface area is maybe half that of a decent intercooler and isn't made of aluminum. If this were the only kit I could get for my car, I'd get a real intercooler and probably try to locate the turbo assembly as close to the cat a possible. One other thing; the exhaust leaving the cat has a very high water vapor content and trace chemical such as nitric acid, sulfuric acid, etc. Over time, the turbo will be exposed to this leading to corrosion. So, the further away from the cat the turbo is, the cooler the exhaust and the more chance of coming in contact with condensing water vapor.

 

There are several potential problems with this product. First, it's not designed for our imports. Two, you have the possibility of sucking up water. Three, like the guy before mentioned, it would take forever to build boost. Four, the piping to the intake manifold would have to be air tight. Also, there was no talk about a boost controller or BOV.

A clever idea, but for $4,000.00 large, you can do it like everyone else. The compainies main gripe was the fact that turbo manifolds get hot in the engine bay...so ******* what?

Also, something that I picked up on, was the testimonials. Almost all the pictures were of trucks (which the product was made for initially). Half the pictures were of trucks pulling something behind it.

By pulling something behind your car/truck, the engine would then be under high load which would cause this turbo system to build boost quicker. Not only this, but the relative speed of the vehicle to the output of the engine would give the vehicle pulling something, enough boost for enough time for it to actually be used, thus making it efficient enough to use in an application like that.

If I had a truck...WTF would stop me from buying a Turbo Diesel? At least on a factory rig, the boost would be almost instand and I wouldn't have to worry about it sucking water or all that extra piping underneath my rig. Something to think about...just my $.02 worth.