My bro has a co-worker who bought a black 94 integra (dunno if its ls or gs or gsr) and he slapped on a 98 jdm b18c5 engine, added a custom exhaust, put in a Type R tranny, painted the integra Cw, and a few other engine mods.

i've seen the teg and it still has a gsr spoiler, 4 lug hubcaps, and no ITR lip.
He's plaining to get some 5 lug conversions and he's buying a ITR spoiler and lip off ebay.

but once he's done will he be able to match a stock Type R?

 

nevaRRRRR!

 

if a plain regular integra recieves

: PY,Cw, FB paint job
added Type R front lip
added side skirts
added Type R spoiler
added 5 lug conversion and ITR stock rims
added Type R side and rare decals
and a B18c5 engine

would it still be called an integra ls/gs/gsr, or will it be considered a weaker type R,
because the exterior of an ITR isn't much different than a normal integra.

the only difference is handling (lighter and better suspension), and power.

 

Is this really a valid question?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hubjub &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if a plain regular integra recieves

: PY,Cw, FB paint job
added Type R front lip
added side skirts
added Type R spoiler
added 5 lug conversion and ITR stock rims
added Type R side and rare decals
and a B18c5 engine

would it still be called an integra ls/gs/gsr, or will it be considered a weaker type R,
because the exterior of an ITR isn't much different than a normal integra.

the only difference is handling (lighter and better suspension), and power.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No....it'll always be a GSR/GS/LS or whatever with ITR parts.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mugenracer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

No....it'll always be a GSR/GS/LS or whatever with ITR parts.</TD></TR></TABLE>

correct

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hubjub &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if a plain regular integra recieves

: PY,Cw, FB paint job
added Type R front lip
added side skirts
added Type R spoiler
added 5 lug conversion and ITR stock rims
added Type R side and rare decals
and a B18c5 engine

would it still be called an integra ls/gs/gsr, or will it be considered a weaker type R,
because the exterior of an ITR isn't much different than a normal integra.

the only difference is handling (lighter and better suspension), and power.</TD></TR></TABLE>


I pose this question to you. If a man got a sex change, would he still be a man? He has all woman parts. Think about it.

 

To the untrained eye he might pass as an ITR...but he will still have the Sunroof

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Comp97GSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


I pose this question to you. If a man got a sex change, would he still be a man? He has all woman parts. Think about it.
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His/hers/Its original birth certificate will state the sex as Male...so no matter what he'll always be a male. As far as i know, and maybe this is only in europe, but a male gets a sex change, he can change his name by deed pole, he can get a passport with his/her new name but you cannot alter a birth certificate.....so they'll always be male......just like his car will always be a GS/LS/GSR.


Modified by mugenracer at 7:09 PM 8/7/2004

 

Very nicely well put...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mugenracer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

His/hers/Its original birth certificate will state the sex as Male...so no matter what he'll always be a male. As far as i know, and maybe this is only in europe, but a male gets a sex change, he can change his name by deed pole, he can get a passport with his/her new name but you cannot alter a birth certificate.....so they'll always be male......just like hsi car will always be a GS/LS/GSR.</TD></TR></TABLE>


That is what I was getting at................

 

A ITR's body is 30% stiffer compare to a GSR.

Also it's lighter as well.

 

I got a friend that has a GSR and he put a JDM conversion and The full ITR interior thats it and he put on Type R decals on it and he called it a ITR. he says he's getting a ITR motor swap and 5lug conversion. but damn its not a Type R and will never be one. i always get upset when he says my Type R this and that. so i always say my car is better. since i really do have a Type R

 

only integra i seen fool me was a RS completly type r'd out no sunroof n such but its still considered a integra RS cause thats wut it is!

 

wow...didn't know there was such thing as a JDM b18c5...learn something new everyday


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hubjub &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My bro has a co-worker who bought a black 94 integra (dunno if its ls or gs or gsr) and he slapped on a 98 jdm b18c5 engine, added a custom exhaust, put in a Type R tranny, painted the integra Cw, and a few other engine mods.

i've seen the teg and it still has a gsr spoiler, 4 lug hubcaps, and no ITR lip.
He's plaining to get some 5 lug conversions and he's buying a ITR spoiler and lip off ebay.

but once he's done will he be able to match a stock Type R?</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mugenracer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

No....it'll always be a GSR/GS/LS or whatever with ITR parts.</TD></TR></TABLE>

exactly!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hubjub &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My bro has a co-worker who bought a black 94 integra (dunno if its ls or gs or gsr) and he slapped on a 98 jdm b18c5 engine, added a custom exhaust, put in a Type R tranny, painted the integra Cw, and a few other engine mods.

i've seen the teg and it still has a gsr spoiler, 4 lug hubcaps, and no ITR lip.
He's plaining to get some 5 lug conversions and he's buying a ITR spoiler and lip off ebay.

but once he's done will he be able to match a stock Type R?</TD></TR></TABLE>

dont forget the the vin plates

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hubjub &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but once he's done will he be able to match a stock Type R?</TD></TR></TABLE>

If he gets the right suspension setup why wouldn't he be able to match an ITR on the street or road course?

Secondly, who cares. It's an Integra. They are all Integras whether they are an RS, LS, GS, GSR, ITR... If he wants to swap parts to look like an ITR than let him. Why should it matter?! If he tried to pass it off as an actual ITR than that's another story.

But like I said... it's still an Integra. I swear, people act like the ITR is the god of cars!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jmk2888 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A ITR's body is 30% stiffer compare to a GSR.

Also it's lighter as well.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's the best part of an R, and can't be done after-the-fact.

He will have to change over 150 other things that are not easy. It will be hundreds of pounds heavier, and won't have the handling, or the HP to weight ratio (and drivability) of an R.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ill &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That's the best part of an R, and can't be done after-the-fact.

He will have to change over 150 other things that are not easy, and I'm not going to list. Then it will still show LS/GS/GSR, peeps will know it's not an R, and it can't be sold as such (fraud is such an ugly word). It will then be a faster, but still slower, flexy flyer, that weighs over 400lbs more than an R. Just buy an R.</TD></TR></TABLE>

and i bet only handfull of these differences really make a differnce.. once you start to modify, whether gsr or itr, you end up using same parts.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MiraiZ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow...didn't know there was such thing as a JDM b18c5...learn something new everyday </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'd think you would know better, living in Japan and all.....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RTW DC2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nevaRRRRR!</TD></TR></TABLE>
well said

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sinbro2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
well said</TD></TR></TABLE>

I second that..

 

in 1994 Acura only offered the RS, LS and GSR......... the ITR has different chassis stampings, that make it stiffer so he should of saved his money and bought a real ITR

 

You seem to know alot about you brothers coworkers car.... I get the felling this is actually your car but you just dont want to get flamed.