When I got my cluster a few days ago I noticed that there were 3 wiring harnesses, but 4 locations for a harness.

I did a search and found this picture that I then stole from SiR Kid:



If you notice, there are 4 harnesses there. One is the yellow SRS harness, but the other 3 are all blue. What is this 3rd harness and why do all the How- To's disregard the top one completely? SiR Kid brought up this point as well.

I'm missing the 10 pin harness at the top of the cluster towards the right side.

What is this harness for!?!? I have the SRS/ABS harness, the 13 Pin harness and the 16 pin harness. Can anybody help me out here?

None of the wiring diagrams I've found helpful...they don't seem to correlate with my harness. The only diagram I could find whose colors matched up with mine pretty good was the one posted by Nevin.

The following list is comprised of lights I've traced with a 12v source and actually made light up. Everything with a question mark is based on some of the diagrams I've found online.

B1 - Yellow... fuel gauge?
B2 - Green/Red (Not sure of secondary color. Could be orange or pink?)
B3 - Empty
B4 - Low Fuel Indicator Light - Blue/White
B5 - Empty
B6 - Orange...speedometer gauge?
B7 - Green....trunk light? Even though I can't get it to come on
B8 - Seat Belt Indicator Light - Red/Blue
B9 - Red....brightness?
B10 - Red/Black and branches off...gauge lights?
B11 - Black/Yellow (Not sure of secondary color. Could be white?)...VSS?
B12 - White/Green
B13 - Left Turn Signal Indicator Light - Green
B14 - Right Turn Signal Indicator Light - Green/White and branches off
B15 - High Beam Indicator Light - Red/Green
B16 - Parking Brake Indicator Light - Green/Orange (Not sure of secondary color. Could be pink or red?)

C1 - Empty
C2 - Maint Req Indicator Light - Pink
C3 - Empty
C4 - Yellow/Blue and branches off...Dimmer?
C5 - Red/Blue.....Fuel gauge?
C6 - Ground (But manual says this is for the odometer?) - Black
C7 - Yellow/Green....Temp gauge?
C8 - Empty
C9 - White/Blue....Battery? Does this mean 12v power or battery indicator light?
C10 - Empty
C11 - Low Oil Pressure Indicator Light - Yellow/Red
C12 - C. E. L. - Green/Orange (Not sure of secondary color. Could be red or pink?)
C13 - Tach? - Blue

After going through every wire on plugs B and C there are several lights I cannot get to work (even after switching to a known good bulb). I'm afraid these may be due to my missing harness?

Battery Indicator Light
Trunk/Hatch Open Light
Door Ajar Light
Cruise Control Light

Even after tracing the circuits to a particular pin, I cannot get these to come on. I think they may be in dual-operation with other circuits, which I may be missing via the missing 10 pin harness.

Please do not tell me I don't need all of these to work. I have a sedan so I will be using the cruise control system, I'm retrofitting ABS (although I've already located that circuit), and I'm getting a low fuel level indicator sensor.

If anybody can help me fill this diagram out properly and/or tell me what the missing harness includes, I'd be much obliged.

 

Im not too sure here, but the 3rd plug is for the automatic clusters. Try and just follow the wires to see where they go instead of using diagrams. Many clusters are different, and its hard to follow diagrams. I have a edm vt cluster comming in the mail, and I have allready made a print out for my current cluster, then I will label my wires, then make a print out for the edm one, and match them. Hope this helps, and please post pics when its done. Ryan

 

i just matched up every wire except the fuel gauge and ebrake everything turned out great

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by droppedcrxsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im not too sure here, but the 3rd plug is for the automatic clusters. Try and just follow the wires to see where they go instead of using diagrams. Many clusters are different, and its hard to follow diagrams. I have a edm vt cluster comming in the mail, and I have allready made a print out for my current cluster, then I will label my wires, then make a print out for the edm one, and match them. Hope this helps, and please post pics when its done. Ryan</TD></TR></TABLE>

Are you sure the extra plug is for automatic crap? It would make sense, just double checking



This is SiR Kid's cluster again and it doesn't look like an automatic cluster (I don't see P R N D 1 2 etc), compared to what all the other automatic Honda clusters look like. I guess his harness could be an auto harness, though.

importboi22, what do you mean you just matched every wire up? You matched it up by color, or what?

I'm trying to trace the circuits themselves and match it up with each pin, but it's not that clear where everything goes. Some of them seem to just run into nothing. And I still can't get those other lights to come on by using ANY of the wires. It's like none of the wires on my harness control those lights.

 

http://www.ef-honda.com/main/viewtopic.php?t=1400

this may help...

 

Thanks, I found that how-to a while back but it still doesn't help me out much.

I guess I'll just have to get in my car with a multimeter *sigh*

 

did you find this thread? https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=274235

this is one of the first ones I've seen on GSR cluster swaps and it had pretty good info.

 

Yep, I read that one front to back, and looked on his site as well.

My pins/wire colors/functions don't really correlate with anybody's I've seen post except the closest with Nevin.

I'll just sit in my car all day and figure it out. Was just hoping to be able to get everything labeled/ready before the install so I didn't have to spend so much time tracing the wires.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jonathan_EH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Are you sure the extra plug is for automatic crap? It would make sense, just double checking



This is SiR Kid's cluster again and it doesn't look like an automatic cluster (I don't see P R N D 1 2 etc), compared to what all the other automatic Honda clusters look like. I guess his harness could be an auto harness, though.

importboi22, what do you mean you just matched every wire up? You matched it up by color, or what?

I'm trying to trace the circuits themselves and match it up with each pin, but it's not that clear where everything goes. Some of them seem to just run into nothing. And I still can't get those other lights to come on by using ANY of the wires. It's like none of the wires on my harness control those lights. </TD></TR></TABLE>


Thats just what I always thought, cant confirm it though. Good luck bro. Ryan

 

I'm going to do a USDM ITR cluster into my EF after I get my swap certified. I'll check all the info I gathered on the wiring and see. I have to use a 94-95 GSR` back green circuit board (which I have) I only got 2 plugs and 1 SRS plug too. I did not hace the 10 pin one that you are referring to. I hope this 3rd blue plug is for automatic cars

 

I was looking to get a itr or gsr cluster for myself before I decided on the edm vt cluster. I was searching on ebay, and on the rare cases that I saw a harness included it seemed that the auto gsr's had 3 plugs, plus the srs plug. The 5spd ones had 2 plugs plus the srs. The harneses looked untouched. This is why I think its for auto trannys. Ryan

 

After searching on my gsr service manual, connector "c" is only for auto trannies!!

 

http://www.angelfire.com/dc/oregonimport/gsr.html
Have you tried this site?

 

It was made by ghettocrxsi (H-t name).

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecn8ive &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://www.angelfire.com/dc/oregonimport/gsr.html
Have you tried this site?</TD></TR></TABLE>

That site is off as well, I think he had the fuel gauge messed up on that site and something else. I looked over every site and was able to get about 75% of the cluster working. After that I had to look at pinouts for CRX and Integra clusters, it took a while but now EVERYTHING works except for the hi beam indicator.

 

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That site is off as well, I think he had the fuel gauge messed up on that site and something else. I looked over every site and was able to get about 75% of the cluster working. After that I had to look at pinouts for CRX and Integra clusters, it took a while but now EVERYTHING works except for the hi beam indicator.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Just tried the site and it worked fine.

 

I think everybody has the correct wiring diagram for THEIR particular cluster.

I guess this may depend on the year cluster you have, and what trim level the cluster is as well.

This has to be the case....because these peoples clusters work!

I've gone through every single wire on my harness and still can't get certain lights to come on! WTF?

 

There is no way that site worked fine, they list the same wire going to two places:

C13 Blue Tachometer C710 #2 Blue
C4 Yellow Dimmer C710 #2 Black/Yellow

 

I remember I got everything working except the highbeam and I was about to give up but then I figured it out somehow. I don't remember what I did, but I did it! Don't give up

 

I was saying the site works. I haven't done my cluster swap yet so I don't know for sure.

 

Its an easy swap..............

I don't know why its hard for everyone. Take one wire at a time and hook it up until the particular thing you are hooking up works.

Also the colors are about 90% the same as your stock colors for blinkers,battery,turn signals,high beam. Alot of things are the same.

You just have to take your time and mess with it. If you need help im me with specific questions.

I get alot of pms with " how do I install a cluster" or " what do I need to install one"
If you look at my origonal post like a year ago or on that site I made it tells you.

 

Oh ya the yellow plug on your harness is your srs plug. You dont need it. Its for newer cars only.

 

The yellow SRS harness also has the ABS circuit included. I'm installing ABS, so I'll be using it

I've gone through every wire on my wiring harness and can't get the following to light up, even when tested with a known working bulb:
Battery Indicator Light
Trunk/Hatch Open Light
Door Ajar Light
Cruise Control Light

What gives? Maybe the harness with my cluster didn't originally come from it, and I'm missing some pins/locations for these lights?