which intake? short ram or cold-air?
i was thinkin about gettin an AEM. im not sure which one would benefit me more since i heard people say that short rams are better. in my opinion, i think a cold air intake would be better, but less responsive as a short ram once you hit the gas. any takes on this?
im going back to all motor for now. so dont ask me why i need an intake when i already have turbo.
im going back to all motor for now. so dont ask me why i need an intake when i already have turbo.
go to aempower.com and check out the AEm V2 cold air intake for da integra's it's nice
the thing is that cold air is more dense and so if uhave cold air going into ur engine then u will have more oxygen molecules going in which means more power.
don't worry about water getting into ur intake just get a bypass valve
EZ as that
the thing is that cold air is more dense and so if uhave cold air going into ur engine then u will have more oxygen molecules going in which means more power.
don't worry about water getting into ur intake just get a bypass valve
EZ as that
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hey i think that the aem short ram would be great...u can feel tha power to...my brother had one and it was good i had a nice sound that i liked..but now he is turbocharging tha car so i think i wont be heard that intake for a while..AEM is a good brand man...get tha short one if u like it but its all on ur opinion...i give it two
In a nutshell, if your going for a high powerband get a short ram, if your going for a midrange powerband get a cold air.
A short ram will offer better throttle response and better flow (aka more HP) at high rpm's compared to the cold air. The cold air will offer better HP gains at low/midrange rpm's than a short ram. Shortly after you've started moving, under hood temps and temps in the bumper are the same anyway. And honestly, the risk of sucking up water with a cold air is very small, you have to drive through a monstrous puddle or into a lake for that to happen. It's not going to suck up water driving through your average puddle. I have a CAI on my GSR and hit some pretty nasty puddles I didn't see coming that scared me to death when I did, but nothing ever happened.
Now that my own all motor project has progressed to the point it has, I'm taking out my AEM CAI and getting the Comptech Icebox for better high end flow because that's the powerband I'm going for. Actually I already have the Icebox, its chilling on my kitchen floor waiting for a nice day to be installed. The Icebox is unlike any other intake on the market and offers the benefits of both the SRI and CAI. It's also the most expensive but you get what you pay for.
Modified by USDMDC2NH at 3:29 AM 4/27/2004
A short ram will offer better throttle response and better flow (aka more HP) at high rpm's compared to the cold air. The cold air will offer better HP gains at low/midrange rpm's than a short ram. Shortly after you've started moving, under hood temps and temps in the bumper are the same anyway. And honestly, the risk of sucking up water with a cold air is very small, you have to drive through a monstrous puddle or into a lake for that to happen. It's not going to suck up water driving through your average puddle. I have a CAI on my GSR and hit some pretty nasty puddles I didn't see coming that scared me to death when I did, but nothing ever happened.
Now that my own all motor project has progressed to the point it has, I'm taking out my AEM CAI and getting the Comptech Icebox for better high end flow because that's the powerband I'm going for. Actually I already have the Icebox, its chilling on my kitchen floor waiting for a nice day to be installed. The Icebox is unlike any other intake on the market and offers the benefits of both the SRI and CAI. It's also the most expensive but you get what you pay for.
Modified by USDMDC2NH at 3:29 AM 4/27/2004
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I just bought my A'PEXi Power Intake filter, put it in, and the car runs really nice. AEM, your only buying a name, I have seen too many people suck water in. Just get an Icebox, or a good filter.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by USDMDC2NH »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In a nutshell, if your going for a high powerband get a short ram, if your going for a midrange powerband get a cold air.
A short ram will offer better throttle response and better flow (aka more HP) at high rpm's compared to the cold air. The cold air will offer better HP gains at low/midrange rpm's than a short ram. Shortly after you've started moving, under hood temps and temps in the bumper are the same anyway. And honestly, the risk of sucking up water with a cold air is very small, you have to drive through a monstrous puddle or into a lake for that to happen. It's not going to suck up water driving through your average puddle. I have a CAI on my GSR and hit some pretty nasty puddles I didn't see coming that scared me to death when I did, but nothing ever happened.
Now that my own all motor project has progressed to the point it has, I'm taking out my AEM CAI and getting the Comptech Icebox for better high end flow because that's the powerband I'm going for. Actually I already have the Icebox, its chilling on my kitchen floor waiting for a nice day to be installed. The Icebox is unlike any other intake on the market and offers the benefits of both the SRI and CAI. It's also the most expensive but you get what you pay for.
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the icebox is not the most expensive, there's the MUGEN CAI and the J's racing carbon intake also
both of which are in my opinion better then the icebox
plus the icebox is almost exactly like the stock type R airbox with a larger intake pipe which kind of acts like a cai anyways....considering the filter is closed from the engine bay side anyway and is only getting air from the snorkel
for my money I'm getting a J's intake for dyno proven power I dont get why people waste so much on other less performing intakes, but I guess some people care what their car looks like cosmetically under the hood
just my .02
A short ram will offer better throttle response and better flow (aka more HP) at high rpm's compared to the cold air. The cold air will offer better HP gains at low/midrange rpm's than a short ram. Shortly after you've started moving, under hood temps and temps in the bumper are the same anyway. And honestly, the risk of sucking up water with a cold air is very small, you have to drive through a monstrous puddle or into a lake for that to happen. It's not going to suck up water driving through your average puddle. I have a CAI on my GSR and hit some pretty nasty puddles I didn't see coming that scared me to death when I did, but nothing ever happened.
Now that my own all motor project has progressed to the point it has, I'm taking out my AEM CAI and getting the Comptech Icebox for better high end flow because that's the powerband I'm going for. Actually I already have the Icebox, its chilling on my kitchen floor waiting for a nice day to be installed. The Icebox is unlike any other intake on the market and offers the benefits of both the SRI and CAI. It's also the most expensive but you get what you pay for.
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the icebox is not the most expensive, there's the MUGEN CAI and the J's racing carbon intake also
both of which are in my opinion better then the icebox
plus the icebox is almost exactly like the stock type R airbox with a larger intake pipe which kind of acts like a cai anyways....considering the filter is closed from the engine bay side anyway and is only getting air from the snorkel
for my money I'm getting a J's intake for dyno proven power I dont get why people waste so much on other less performing intakes, but I guess some people care what their car looks like cosmetically under the hood
just my .02
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custom a cold air intake and introduce ramair
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I strongly suggest reading the article "Intake Manifold Tech:Runner Size Calculations" on Team Integra to realize the full ignorance of this suggestion.
custom a cold air intake and introduce ramair
</TD></TR></TABLE>I strongly suggest reading the article "Intake Manifold Tech:Runner Size Calculations" on Team Integra to realize the full ignorance of this suggestion.
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the icebox is not the most expensive, there's the MUGEN CAI and the J's racing carbon intake also
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I just knew some jackass would chime in and split hairs about that.
Yes, the Mugen is by far the most expensive intake your likely to find, which is exactly why 99.9% of us on these boards would never consider it as an option. It is dyno proven that the Icebox puts out the similar gains for less than half the cost of the Mugen, we all live in the real world, come join us.
the icebox is not the most expensive, there's the MUGEN CAI and the J's racing carbon intake also
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I just knew some jackass would chime in and split hairs about that.
Yes, the Mugen is by far the most expensive intake your likely to find, which is exactly why 99.9% of us on these boards would never consider it as an option. It is dyno proven that the Icebox puts out the similar gains for less than half the cost of the Mugen, we all live in the real world, come join us.
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slap on a good filter and thats the best (and cheapest) way to go IMO
</TD></TR></TABLE>slap on a good filter and thats the best (and cheapest) way to go IMO
I'm taking the path of some past HTers and putting in BSQ's DIY Icebox. It's going in in a couple days.. I'll let you guys know how it is. I already recently put in K&N's Integra dropin filter and I can feel a teeeeeny difference. Hopefully some cold air would help it.
It's kind of hard to say which is best. These intakes are dyno tested. The problem is when a car is on a dyno its not exactly moving. I hardly consider a fan the equivalent of driving down the road at 45mph. If my father engraved me with just a tad more redneck dna I would tell you to punch a hole in your hood, run a 6inch heat wrapped pipe right out the middle of your hood with a velocity stack attached
. Seriously though its pretty much the question of which is better. Colder air? Or less distance the air has to travel?
. Seriously though its pretty much the question of which is better. Colder air? Or less distance the air has to travel?


