anyone know about this motor???

 

It has mad torque.... Only came out in Mexican ITRs... good luck finding one of them.


actually.. I have no idea what that is...

 

we actually a friend found one and dude sold it to him for 1500, and he was telling me about it and i was just like huh, wtf is a c3. so i posted up to see if some1 could help me figure out what was so special about it

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=303384

sgt's posts are about as much info as their is about the 'c3'.

and for 1500 - sounds shady and/or stolen. just my opinion... too cheap.

 

i think but iam not sure it is a euro spec type r motor but not 100%

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris N &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=303384

sgt's posts are about as much info as their is about the 'c3'.

and for 1500 - sounds shady and/or stolen. just my opinion... too cheap.</TD></TR></TABLE>


yeah ur telling me but nah it was outa a wrecked car and dude i guess thought it was a gsr cuz thats wut my boy initaly was looking for cuz he blew his **** up

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kingK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think but iam not sure it is a euro spec type r motor but not 100%</TD></TR></TABLE>

No. did you read the thread I linked?

Euro ITR is b18c6.

 

i have seen spoon motor with both b18c3 and just b18c.
i have seen motors from hong kong with b18c3.
spoon has a core exchange program, they also will build your motor if you send it to them. we don't do it here (cost of shipping)
but h.k. is so close to japan and alot of people there love to fix hondas, that i think majority of spoon cores come from h.k. and they also send alot of motors there. i have seen a completely sotck gsr with just a aftermarket head gasket stamped b18c3.

for what its worth this one was a spoon motor, that blew. now its been built by LDLspeedshop. much better motor now.

 

from this site:
http://www.jdmuniverse.com/for...0Info

B18C3
..
Displacement (cc): 1797
Power (bhp@rpm): 200 ps@8000 rpm
Torque (ft/lbs@rpm): 15.5 kg-m@7500 rpm
Compression Ratio: 10.8:1
Bore (mm): 81
Stroke (mm): 87.2
Cam Design: dohc
VTEC?: yes
OBD: 1 or 2
Year(s) Produced: 1996
In the following car(s): Honda Integra Type R (JDM)

 

There is also a c6

 

For anyone and everyone wanting to know the truth behind the B18C3, I will give it to you.

B18C3 is the block stamp for all OEM replacement blocks ordered from Honda dealerships in Japan. It isn't some special Spoon engine, and it was never released in a vehicle. It's just an OEM replacement block. It was available with either the Sir-G internals, the ITR internals, or as just a bare block. It's true that Spoon did get their hands on some of these, however there is nothing special about it. Also, it was not the stock engine from a 96 JDM ITR as some websites have claimed. It is only an OEM replacement block, so if you have one, the original block was probably damaged and this is what they replaced it with.

I have extensively researched this topic and have spoken with a couple of english speaking parts managers from Honda dealerships and this is the info that they gave me.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kendall &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For anyone and everyone wanting to know the truth behind the B18C3, I will give it to you.

B18C3 is the block stamp for all OEM replacement blocks ordered from Honda dealerships in Japan. It isn't some special Spoon engine, and it was never released in a vehicle. It's just an OEM replacement block. It was available with either the Sir-G internals, the ITR internals, or as just a bare block. It's true that Spoon did get their hands on some of these, however there is nothing special about it. Also, it was not the stock engine from a 96 JDM ITR as some websites have claimed. It is only an OEM replacement block, so if you have one, the original block was probably damaged and this is what they replaced it with.

I have extensively researched this topic and have spoken with a couple of english speaking parts managers from Honda dealerships and this is the info that they gave me.</TD></TR></TABLE>

B18C3's were ment for export to tawain and hong kong (hence why hongkong has them) They are nothign but GSR motors.

That whole thing about B18C3 JUST being replacement motors is UNTRUE...

What happened is the motors were ment for export but ended up just being sold in japan. Go to japan, find cars with B18C3's and ull notice that they will have full vins etc like other motors that are for export. I have seen numerous b18c3's and have personally taken them apart.

JUST a GSR.

Just like how in hong kong you can find B16A4's

Big deal guys, its a #

If you get one from a dealership brand new its just because honda had it laying around... ive seen MANY brand new dealer blocks that are JUST stamped B18C

Its nothing special, just a GSR. I assume its possible to get a B18C3 block with ITR internals... they do all sorts of **** in japan anyway. It is not uncommon for eg civic SiR's to have swap'd in B18C's





Modified by irev210 at 8:28 AM 4/11/2004

 

Good info!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by irev210 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">B18C3's were ment for export to tawain and hong kong (hence why hongkong has them) They are nothign but GSR motors.

That whole thing about B18C3 JUST being replacement motors is UNTRUE...

What happened is the motors were ment for export but ended up just being sold in japan. Go to japan, find cars with B18C3's and ull notice that they will have full vins etc like other motors that are for export. I have seen numerous b18c3's and have personally taken them apart.

JUST a GSR.

Just like how in hong kong you can find B16A4's

Big deal guys, its a #

If you get one from a dealership brand new its just because honda had it laying around... ive seen MANY brand new dealer blocks that are JUST stamped B18C

Its nothing special, just a GSR. I assume its possible to get a B18C3 block with ITR internals... they do all sorts of **** in japan anyway. It is not uncommon for eg civic SiR's to have swap'd in B18C's</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hmmm...in that case I'll call back the people I initially called and ask why they bullshitted me. Thanks for the info.

 

Yes, that is a european spec gsr motor... it has slightly higher compression, but the good thing about them is that they are usually in 4 door civics in europe and they only use obd1 over there, atleast until about 01 I think... not sure about that exactly... but they are almost all obd 1 even the really new ones like 98 and 99 swaps! Most also have lsd in them!! Great motor to get a hold of!

 

you goto ECU?

 

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Hmmm...in that case I'll call back the people I initially called and ask why they bullshitted me. Thanks for the info.</TD></TR></TABLE>

im getting pictures right now

I just sold the block on ebay not too long ago
1 sec

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...33613


there ya go

I have the "detailed" pictures on my other computer

Ive seen 4 or 5... all GSR's

I mean, im sure that Spoon and other people in japan have built b18c3 blocks due to the apparent excess of them


*edit- notice the OilMAX Made in japan JDM el cheapo oil filter that so many motors come from japan with...

 

So essentially we have the following list:

B18C: JDM Sir-G and ITR block
B18C1: US GSR block
B18C2: Australian GSR block
B18C3: Hong Kong/Taiwan GSR block
B18C4: European Civic
B18C5: US ITR block
B18C6: Euro ITR block
B18C7: Australian ITR block

 

I think ur on the right track, I know that the B16A4 is in hong kong AND b16A2 is in hong kong also.

Ive seen them both.

just the years are different then USDM...

B16A4 went into EK were B16A2 went into EG

its all so strange!!!

and GRR i only got 830 for a b18C3!!! no more 3 day auctions for me

 

Just searched and found out that the B18C7 is from an Australian ITR so I updated the list.

 

ill finish the list for ya

b18c2 is ozzy GSR

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by irev210 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ill finish the list for ya

b18c2 is ozzy GSR
</TD></TR></TABLE>

I just searched and found out that info and was about to post it. I'll update the list one last time. Apparently it's called the Honda Integra Vti-R and had 168 hp.

 

Okay this is directly from Mr. Tatsuru Ichisima of Spoon himself from an interview

"If the engine has B18C stamped and no number after it, that means it could either be a B18C2 or a B18C3. C1 through C3 of the VTEC B series are considered the knock-down models in Japan. The favored engines are the B18C4s. which are not available in the states. The C5, which is found in the U.S.-spec Integra Type, is also a good engine."

Here's also what he had to say about the B20/VTEC

"I don't understand why people want to do this. There is a small cult following in Japan on the same swap, but they are basically going home crying. The B20 crank in a B18 would have problems because the engine's sleeve already has a vibration problem at the sleeves with the original crank. The B20 crank causes even more vibration. If the engine were only revved up to 5000 rpm, it would be fine, but when you get up to 8000 to 9000 rpm, warping will start to occur. Again, this is a problem that occurs even with the original crank."

These quotes came directly off of an interview Import Tuner had with him in issue 41.

 

My engine has B18C only. Still not confirmed if it was out a JDM car or a UKDM car as the breakers were monkeys!!