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Old Mar 19, 2004 | 06:48 PM
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So I convinced some freinds to come down to the strip with me tonight because I've been meaning to see what the car can do. After getting there I ran a 14.7 with some wheel hop in 1st gear. My second run came up and I dropped the Azenis from 30 to 28 psi and launched a little higher. Wheel hop through first and some of second, spinning well into second gear. During this run the car began to shake a little bit at high speed. I let off near the end of the run and pulled off to look at the car. Everything looked fine, clutch enguagement was still good, and no fluid was coming from around the axels/intermediate shaft. During my third run the shaking continued, really picking up at the top of second gear maintaing at a constant rate through 4th gear. I decided to call quits and not risk having to get towed home.

On the drive home the car continued to shake beginning noticeable aroind 35 or so mph. The shaking seems to be coming from the right side of the car, my guess an axel. The shaking increases when the throttle is applied.

So here I am, another problem with the R. I love her to death and I know well get things straightened out. I'm gonna take a look at the axels out tomorrow, though I don't really know what I'm looking for other than anything obvious. Any advice you guys may have would be useful, as installing a new axle without it being the probelm, would not be a cost effective way to determine the source of the problem.

On a more positive note my reaction time for my first run was a .096, 0.0 being the best, the way they were working it at the track. Also took out a VR6 GTI and a Mazdaspeed Protege who did a huge *** burnout, while I had the aforementioned problems. Thanks, Ryan
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Old Mar 19, 2004 | 06:53 PM
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could it be the motor mounts?
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Old Mar 19, 2004 | 06:59 PM
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could be wheel balance...never know when your gonna throw a weight with all that torque
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Old Mar 19, 2004 | 07:00 PM
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Could be God trying to tell you not to drag race an R.
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Old Mar 19, 2004 | 07:02 PM
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Check your lugnuts and see if they are tight. If not, it's the axle.
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Old Mar 19, 2004 | 07:02 PM
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Inner CV.
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Old Mar 19, 2004 | 07:04 PM
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it's definitely an axle, specifically the inner joint. When they go out you tend to get a nasty vibration within a certain range of speed, when the throttle is applied. When you close the throttle the vibration stops. You can't tell by looking at the boot, either, because this can happen even if the boot is still intact. Just look for play in either of the inboard joints (spin the wheel and watch the axle/inner joint to see if it moves exactly the same as the wheel or if there is any freeplay).
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Old Mar 19, 2004 | 10:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kendall &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Could be God trying to tell you not to drag race an R.</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol
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Old Mar 19, 2004 | 10:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kendall &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Could be God trying to tell you not to drag race an R.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Mar 20, 2004 | 05:20 AM
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like a few said, inner CV caused by the wheel hop. change the axle, pretty easy DIY. good luck
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Old Mar 20, 2004 | 05:42 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Inner CV.</TD></TR></TABLE>
sounds like it... Reason number #3 that I don't drag race anymore
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Old Mar 20, 2004 | 05:43 AM
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OK Guys, went out this morning and took the wheels off and there seems to be mroe noise coming frm the driver's sde than the passenger siude axle when turning them back and forth. After searching for what kind of axles to use I read that someone running a turbo R has been using units from Advanced Auto with a lifetime warranty witho no problems. For $200 I'll give them a shot. Should be OK with limited drag racing, and my near stock power levels. Thanks for all the info.
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Old Mar 20, 2004 | 05:52 AM
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I reccomend going with OEM units only if you plan on racing some more. Get them new or used. Some people have had just had bad luck with Pep Boys, NAPA, etc axles. BUT with the lifetime warranty they will replace them without a problem if ANYTHING happens. So its a 50/50
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Old Mar 28, 2004 | 05:06 PM
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Well it seems it wasn't the axles I replaced the axles today and the car seemed to be fine for 20 miles or so. After a few trips into VTEC and some qucik turns, still with no hard shifting, the vibrations come back. I'm gonna mess with it mroe tomorrow and see if the vibration happens on/off throttle, in/out of gear, etc. Going to retourque all the bolts and swap the wheels front to back to to recheck cheap aka free stuff before spending any mroe money. Any other ideas?
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Old Mar 28, 2004 | 06:47 PM
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I had the same problem a while back,i changed axels too but that didnt help this might sound silly but if you have a coilover set up on the car try raising the car a bit in the front and see if the vibration goes away worked for me after i waisted about a grand.
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 02:58 AM
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Any other ideas?
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 03:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">could be wheel balance</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 04:47 AM
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like a few said, inner CV caused by the wheel hop. change the axle, pretty easy DIY. good luck


I agree wheel hop takes its toll on axles
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 09:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaRcB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm gonna mess with it mroe tomorrow and see if the vibration happens on/off throttle, in/out of gear, etc. Going to retourque all the bolts and swap the wheels front to back </TD></TR></TABLE>

Did you find anything when you did those things?


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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 10:36 AM
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Inner CV for sure
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 11:17 AM
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I'm gonna do some testing tonight. I would highly doubt inner CV as I replaced the axles Sunday and they have less than 20 mile son them. Wheel balance seems to be out because the car was fine for the first 20 miles ago. Maybe the axle slid out having something to do with the passenger side retaining clip? Who knows. What else could it be? I just wanna drive my damn car. -Tear-
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 11:29 AM
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My guess was lug nuts coming loose

Wheel hop is probably the most catastrophic happening for a car besides actually being in an accident IMHO.

&lt;-- OT but, ran a 14.9 yesterday Slowest R ever.
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 01:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kendall &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Could be God trying to tell you not to drag race an R.</TD></TR></TABLE>

so true....but what if you drag race the heart of an itr in an eg?!?!?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Inner CV.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes this is the problem!
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 01:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaRcB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would highly doubt inner CV as I replaced the axles Sunday and they have less than 20 mile son them. </TD></TR></TABLE>

If they were autozone remans, i would not be suprised at all. Buy the new axles not reman, only $20 more.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Maybe the axle slid out having something to do with the passenger side retaining clip?</TD></TR></TABLE>

If it did, you would be dropping a trail of fluid and the axle would have fallen out.
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 02:44 PM
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Yeah I assumed that about the tranny fluid Are you saying that new OEM axles are only $120 a piece? I got the reman set from Advance for $200 a pair with a lifetime warranty. Worth trying another set so I'm not out $200. Anyone have a set of good axles they wanna let me borrow and see if thats the problem. Jon ?
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