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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 11:46 AM
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IM TRYIN TO DETERMINE WHICH WOULD BE BETTER FOR MY 00' INTEGRA DOES ANYONE NO THE PROS AND CONS OF THEM
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 11:57 AM
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SRI - makes noise
CAI - makes a bit of power
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 12:17 PM
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you get more hp out of short ram but keep your engine a little cooler with cold air. i reccomand 3"no name short ram of ebay for like $15-20 and by a aem filter
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 12:27 PM
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SRI makes power in lower RPM range

CAI High RPM range
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 12:59 PM
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so your saying that a hotter engine makes more hp, ehh no
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 01:30 PM
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ebay 2 in 1 no name intake's, you can have both!
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 01:34 PM
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Id say short ram with some sort of ram air!
Like mine


Mine is actually a modified stock air box!!
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 01:36 PM
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Now thats an original idea!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by carcala &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Id say short ram with some sort of ram air!
Like mine


Mine is actually a modified stock air box!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nice dude nice
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 01:36 PM
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LOL
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 01:40 PM
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i have an CAI on my 2000 integra and it makes more hp and also makes noise.
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 01:43 PM
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I like short ram....my friend has a AEM cold air on his 92 ls and he has sucked up waster twice (idiot), so i suggest if u go with a cold air, get a bypass valve because if it rains alot and theres still water on the road where u live and drive then there is a high risk of sucking up water
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 01:50 PM
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yeah not only get the bypass valve, one of those filters with heat sheilds work great for rain as your filter doesn't become nearly as saturated with water.
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 01:57 PM
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yea. best of both worlds.

I had done this back in 2001..
When it rained, I just taped up the front and removed the stock lid.
Long tubes to get to the cold air hurts high end power, this will have the gains of cold air, nad the benefits of more top end because of the short tubes.

All it takes is a used headlight ($150-$200 if you look good) and some PVC and Epoxy putty.




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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 02:23 PM
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**** CAI....my gs-r just sucked up some water and my engines fucked....gotta get it fixed now and it will be big $$$ ....i did not have a bypass valve so i guess that was my prob...
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 02:32 PM
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THX...I THINK THE WATER PROBLEMS ALONE IS ENOUGH TO GET A SHORT RAM...NICE IDEA WITH THE TUBE
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 02:44 PM
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thats badass.
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 08:12 PM
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im about to purchase the comptech icebox myself....good power gainss, cold air, wont suck up water nearly as easy as aem...sounds stock
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 08:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Swift_asian &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">SRI makes power in lower RPM range

CAI High RPM range</TD></TR></TABLE>

What?!? Think AEM hump...from the CAI...where is it? It's in the mid range...

SRI - Better at high RPM...CAI start to loose umph when they get into the higher RPM range.

Man, so much misinfo here...
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 08:20 PM
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short ram gives u more high-end power
cold air gives u low-end power
i might be wrong but that's how i feel on my car
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 09:11 PM
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i think its the other way around. short ram is more responsive than cai but it doesnt give a lot of top end as compared to a cai.
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 09:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itr 00 0108 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
What?!? Think AEM hump...from the CAI...where is it? It's in the mid range...

SRI - Better at high RPM...CAI start to loose umph when they get into the higher RPM range.

Man, so much misinfo here...</TD></TR></TABLE>

good info...the CORRECT info. cai - low mid, sri mid high. brand really doesnt matter. think you'll feel the difference between a top dollar intake compared to a ebay one? i vote NO
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 11:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gutted &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

good info...the CORRECT info. cai - low mid, sri mid high. brand really doesnt matter. think you'll feel the difference between a top dollar intake compared to a ebay one? i vote NO</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats true...but the brand name intakes usually have better fit, and they make you feel like you have a better product since you spent more money.
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 11:35 PM
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um, SRI=HIGH end, CAI's=usually midrange - low.

i love my ebay SRI, too bad the strap to brace the filter side snapped off, so i just put the lower stock box on to support it. lol

Chris and carcala, have you ever gotten stopped or a ticket for that setup? or is it race only? i'd assume that since it's the highbeam it should be legal. i might give that a whirl
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 11:41 PM
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Default Re: Short ram vs Cold air... (eric8876)

short ram
i will never run a cai due to the fact that its simpilly not worth the risk of ruining the motor when it rains
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Old Mar 6, 2004 | 12:29 AM
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Short Ram Intakes

Easily the most affordable intake you can buy, short ram intakes incorporate the most efficient design. Having a short pipe allows the engine to more easily access the air it needs to breathe. The issue with this intake however is that it takes in hot air from the engine bay, air which can reach into the hundreds of degrees. Hot air is less dense, and will have a lower number of oxygen molecules per cubic foot than cold air. The explosions in the combustion chamber depend on oxygen. If there is less oxygen, the explosion will be weaker and create less power.

An arguement made for short rams is that underhood air temperatures will be generally the same as the outside air when the car is moving. There have been tests that have shown both sides, but one thing is for certain, starting from a standstill you will definitely be drawing in very hot air for the first few seconds of your run.

Advantages:
-Short pipe length with minimal number of bends allows for quick and efficient airflow entry into the engine.
-Risk of sucking water into the engine is no greater than with the stock intake.

Disadvantages:
-Brings in hot air from inside the engine bay especially when starting from a standstill


The infamous cold air intake (CAI), thousands of import fans swear on cold air intakes to help their cars run at peak performance. Brands like AEM and Injen have made a big name for themselves just from this part alone. These cold air intakes are designed to suck in air from behind the turn signal, inside the fender, or in some cases from the front of the car. The air is much cooler in these places than inside the engine bay which allows a higher density of oxygen to be sucked in, resulting in a larger explosion inside the combustion chamber.

Advantages:
-Brings in cooler air from the outside allowing a higher density of oxygen molecules to enter the combustion chamber giving a more powerful explosion on ignition.

Disadvantages:
-High risk of sucking water into engine in partially flooded areas.
-Longer pipe and more bends will cause slight hesitation of airflow and may restrict power in bigger cammed engines.

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