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Who wants to make $20 bucks? (tried everything and still no spark from dizzy)

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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 09:47 PM
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Default Who wants to make $20 bucks? (tried everything and still no spark from dizzy)

ok here's the scenario. i got done swapping in a b18c1 about 2 weeks ago and since then i haven't been able to get spark. the motor turns and it gets fuel. i've narrowed it down to my dizzy and i've tried numerous things:

-swapped out coil
-swapped out ignitor
-checked all my grounds
-checked all my fuses
-swapped out for another ignitor
-made sure all grounds are metal to metal
-installed msd sci w/ ss blaster
-checked my spark plug wires
-checked cap and rotor


---only thing i haven't done yet is completely swap out the dizzy for a totally different one. seemed like i wouldn't have to just as long as the coil and ignitor was swapped instead.


---maybe my dizzy is shot, but i didn't installed the msd correctly. heres what i basically did:

-big red wire to + terminal on battery
-big black wire to - terminal on battery
-orange wire to SS blaster
-black wire to SS blaster
-red wire to + terminal on coil
-white wire to - terminal on coil

i thought for sure my car would start up after i installed the msd, but still same thing. as of right now i am complete stumped. if anyone has an idea for me to try and it works i'll paypal you $20. having no car for the last 2 weeks sucks and i'm getting pretty desperate

- $20 to person who helps me solve my problem
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 10:02 PM
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u sure ur timing is right on? how did u verify no spark?
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 10:06 PM
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Default Re: Who wants to make $20 bucks? (ChkN)

when i swapped the motor i didn't touch the timing of anything. i checked for the spark by pulling out one of the spark plug wires and connecting a spare spark plug to the end of it and cranking up the motor. no spark is visible.
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 10:09 PM
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Default Re: Who wants to make $20 bucks? (AzntaggeR)

you crank it while the spark plug is touching a ground, correct? i had the same problem about two or three weeks ago. turned out it was a bad ignitor/coil, ordered a dizzy off ebay, and swapped in these parts, started right up.
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 10:13 PM
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give the timing a look at. check the TDC and ur cam gears. cant hurt to look, cuz that was the last thing i checked b4 i was gonna take it in to the mechanic and it turned out to be it. cant hurt. if not then maybe u just need a new dizzy?
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 10:18 PM
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Default Re: Who wants to make $20 bucks? (AzntaggeR)

i say triple check your wiring! the tripple check it again! as sure as you may think you are it might be wrong trust me i was in the sae boat ! check your wiring again and again!
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 10:26 PM
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check for blown fuses
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 10:28 PM
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Default Re: Who wants to make $20 bucks? (SnoFlake EG)

when i did my swap, the only wires i unplugged and plugged back in was the shock tower harnesses. switched out my module twice, and the coil about 3 times. i didn't have to run any wires at all. only thing wire-related that i did was re-wire my vafc.
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 10:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Turbo E 604 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">check for blown fuses</TD></TR></TABLE>

triple checked that too


-sad thing is i actually drove the car i pulled the motor from and it ran fine, before i swapped it.
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 10:34 PM
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main relay
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 10:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Spence &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">main relay</TD></TR></TABLE>

it can't be my main relay, because if it was the main realy i would have fuel problems too. that's what i thought too.

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Old Feb 28, 2004 | 08:25 AM
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ohh sorry i misread your post i thought you said it was not getting fuel

I would say get a new dizzy and youll be good
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Old Feb 28, 2004 | 08:51 AM
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Check your ECU me and a friend had a prob with no spark and the ecu was fried. Check it.
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Old Feb 28, 2004 | 09:05 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OOsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ignition Control Module </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Feb 28, 2004 | 09:11 AM
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you've got a pm .
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Old Feb 28, 2004 | 09:52 AM
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IC freakn' M...


Check that!!!
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Old Feb 28, 2004 | 12:50 PM
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if it is my ecu, how would i know it's fried? it's a rechipped p28 from kenji that i just got.
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Old Feb 28, 2004 | 01:00 PM
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I belive that you can take an ECU to honda, and they can run a scan on it to see if it is working propery. Call up honda. I know that you can do that with other manufactors.
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Old Feb 28, 2004 | 01:11 PM
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Default Re: Who wants to make $20 bucks? (asmallsol)

Had the identical problem in my brother's gsr. Turned out the brand new MSD Blaster SS was the culprit. We swapped it out with a Bosch coil and everything worked perfectly. That was after we swapped buttons, ignitors, msd ignition boxes, and wires.
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Old Feb 28, 2004 | 01:31 PM
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any chance i could've shorted out a wire?
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Old Feb 28, 2004 | 01:42 PM
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unlikely. you would know if you burned a wire up.
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Old Feb 28, 2004 | 01:43 PM
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Not if it came from the ecu you cant smell it unless you open it or pull up the carpet. You check the ECU? Like open it up and look at the board, itd show a burn spot or itd smell like crap.
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Old Feb 28, 2004 | 01:46 PM
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yeah i pulled the carpet up and had the ecu out since, cuz i had to swap ecus anyways and re-wire my vafc.
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Old Feb 28, 2004 | 01:48 PM
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You take the covers off of the ecu and look at the green board on BOTH sides? If thats ok then rule out it being the ECU
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Old Feb 28, 2004 | 01:52 PM
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Have you checked to see if your getting current to the dizzy plugs? Test Light time!!!
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