Been trying to find a short block for weeks and a lot of different ones been coming my way from all different models from all over the world.
Now it looks like I'll be gettin a b18c1, 95 OBD1 from a kid here in local Chicago.
The block is BARE.
What would/can you transfer if you were me over to the new block from my b16a2 motor.
Ive heard too many opinions on fitments of different pumps and alternator, oil pan ect...
Talking internals now, What would be a better idea, hone it and slap my b16 pistons on the gsr rods, or get some GSR pistons, Im not lookin to get some ITRs Oh I'll be keeping the b18c1's crank on it also.
I know about making the right precautions such as new head studs, rod bolts, crank seals ect...Im not gonna skimp out, too much...

Basically if this goes down I wanna be extra ready to start building in my garage, I dont wanna be owned by the downtime since the point of this is to transfer safely over to the new motor from my 99 Si.
A nice input for this noob would be great, and no, Im not gonna touch the head.

Thanks ya'll!!!!

 

why dont you keep the b16 block and run an r topend ? its makes power looks stock and you dont have to touch your bottom end ?

when you say poor mans type r dosent that mean taking all r internals and installing them to a b16 or b18 ? just asking ?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmwanabe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why dont you keep the b16 block and run an r topend ? its makes power looks stock and you dont have to touch your bottom end ?

when you say poor mans type r dosent that mean taking all r internals and installing them to a b16 or b18 ? just asking ? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Keep the b16 bottom end with 109ft lbs of torque and put on the similar head off a type r so it looks stock?
What the hell would that do?

And buy replacing all the internals to a b18c5 that would probably not be a "POOR man's type R"

 

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when you say poor mans type r dosent that mean taking all r internals and installing them to a b16 or b18 ? just asking ? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Poor mans R is a B18C1 bottom end with B16 head. Usually with some ITR pistons or valve train, I don't really know what kind of specifics some people get into.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BseriesPWR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Poor mans R is a B18C1 bottom end with B16 head. Usually with some ITR pistons or valve train, I don't really know what kind of specifics some people get into. </TD></TR></TABLE>


Thats a poor man's R,....

Loius basically sell the entire b16 shorty, not much there to use.......

Pick up gsr oil pump, water pump, head studs, gsr rods, itr pistons, bearings, gsr timing belt, gasket sets basically pretty much everything. There is no cheap way to build up a motor......

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dwn-shift &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
There is no cheap way to build up a motor......</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'll give you 7 bucks to make me one.

I cant use the b16's oil and water pump?
I thought it was all good since they're both VTECHS!!

 

Use your B16A pistons in the GSR block and you will like the results.

 

the pumps are compatible, use the b16 pistons, you'll get more compression than the gsr's. if it's a 94 gsr block you'll need a water pipe with the extra spout for the oil cooler.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the pumps are compatible, use the b16 pistons, you'll get more compression than the gsr's. if it's a 94 gsr block you'll need a water pipe with the extra spout for the oil cooler. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Its a 95, if that makes a difference.
I thought that the water pipe deal was only with the Type-R b18c5 blocks?
Also the alternater switchable??

 

The b16 shortblock is basically useless. Unless you're going to reuse the burnt pistons, which I highly recommend replacing. You'll need to pull everything off a gsr block, from the oil pan to the head gasket. Good luck.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Davep &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Use your B16A pistons in the GSR block and you will like the results.</TD></TR></TABLE>

use that combo with that b16 head. , Toda a's...all good

 

Just buy some ctr pistons. I have seen them for as little $300 with rings. Should be around 12.0:1 with the b18c block and gs-r head.

 

You can save some $$ and reuse the b16 pistons... they'll be higher compression than the GSR slugs. Slap on the b16 head with a thin HG and the b16 pistons and yer in business. I am not sure if the 95 GSR came w/ the oil cooler, I think only the 94 did. But as far as the oil and water pumps, you can reuse them, but if you're rebuilding, trust me, just spring for a new water and oil pump... it'll save you headaches and worry in the future.

As said, you can't really build a motor cheaply... just try to save money on everything you buy.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by X2BOARD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can save some $$ and reuse the b16 pistons... they'll be higher compression than the GSR slugs. Slap on the b16 head with a thin HG and the b16 pistons and yer in business. I am not sure if the 95 GSR came w/ the oil cooler, I think only the 94 did. But as far as the oil and water pumps, you can reuse them, but if you're rebuilding, trust me, just spring for a new water and oil pump... it'll save you headaches and worry in the future.

As said, you can't really build a motor cheaply... just try to save money on everything you buy.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Damn pumps.
Well bump to see if the 95 does need that extra line int he back for the oil cooler.
Hey what about the oil pan also, reusable from the b16?

 

You will need the gsr oil pan for that.

 

Just as I thought, the B16's might not hold enough oil...
Bump for potential new info.