H&R Race Springs or H&R Sport Springs?
I was wondering which would be better. i know the Race springs will drop it a little lower than the Sport springs. If i was going to get Tokico Illumina Adjustable Shocks down the road which one would be better. I have been looking at threads and site that say if i get the Race springs i would need sport-tuned dampers and special camber-adjusting components to keep your alignment in line. Is this true?
either springs you'll need to have a camber kit...but i'm usin h r sports rite now on my integra....usin tokico hp...my friend have hr race and he is usin the same shocks....race and sport has a big differance in height of the car....race has a real slam look to it...sport....is just perfect for regular driving...lease then a 1inch wheel gap....if you usin stock size tires...but....it's up to you...race is much more stiffer then sport.....NO BODY ROLL...KILLER SPRINGS...FO AUTOX...sport is built for more street use...so there's a lil body roll in the ride....but i still like both..
but if you have race on....watch where u goin!!
but if you have race on....watch where u goin!!
HR race...
i have HR sports right now and for the significant drop they give they are too soft IMO. the HR race should only drop a little more but are alot stiffer
i have HR sports right now and for the significant drop they give they are too soft IMO. the HR race should only drop a little more but are alot stiffer
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by aznstyler119 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">either springs you'll need to have a camber kit...but i'm usin h r sports rite now on my integra....usin tokico hp...my friend have hr race and he is usin the same shocks....race and sport has a big differance in height of the car....race has a real slam look to it...sport....is just perfect for regular driving...lease then a 1inch wheel gap....if you usin stock size tires...but....it's up to you...race is much more stiffer then sport.....NO BODY ROLL...KILLER SPRINGS...FO AUTOX...sport is built for more street use...so there's a lil body roll in the ride....but i still like both..
but if you have race on....watch where u goin!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
check out my drop w/ H&R Sports:
And I can tell you from experience from my friend's Civic that Race springs on Tokico HP (blue) shocks is a horrible combination. Those springs wore out those shocks pretty quick, and ride quality was just terrible.
but if you have race on....watch where u goin!!</TD></TR></TABLE>check out my drop w/ H&R Sports:
And I can tell you from experience from my friend's Civic that Race springs on Tokico HP (blue) shocks is a horrible combination. Those springs wore out those shocks pretty quick, and ride quality was just terrible.
I know you've been saying this over and over again in every H&R Sport thread, but I have the same setup as you and my camber is -1.75 in the front right and left. 2 years on the setup.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My H&R Sport springs dropped my Integra 3" with -2.5 camber in front. Do not get them.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My H&R Sport springs dropped my Integra 3" with -2.5 camber in front. Do not get them.
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I've ran the sport and race springs, cup kit, and now the coilovers from H&R. Here's my two cents....
Sport: softest spring they have, ran with KYB AGX. Did not like them that much because it left a lil too much of a gap. More of an every day driving type spring.
Race: Dropped TOO low for my liking, stiffer ride, ran with Illuminas. Cambered a bit but fixed most of the premature wear with an alignment.
Cup Kit: Stiff set up. Pracically running Koni yellows with a sport spring. Feels like running H&R's with Illuminas set on setting 4. big plus was the height adjustment. Dropped my car perfectly, also allows you to "rake" the height if you want that look. NOTE: USE FACTORY BUMP STOPS. DO NOT REMOVE THEM!
Coilovers: GREAT SETUP. Running it on my 4 dr GSR. Has a preload on the spring to decrease that nasty bounce you usually get. Stiff ride, yet bearable. Can SLAM the car or drop it nicely.
Sport: softest spring they have, ran with KYB AGX. Did not like them that much because it left a lil too much of a gap. More of an every day driving type spring.
Race: Dropped TOO low for my liking, stiffer ride, ran with Illuminas. Cambered a bit but fixed most of the premature wear with an alignment.
Cup Kit: Stiff set up. Pracically running Koni yellows with a sport spring. Feels like running H&R's with Illuminas set on setting 4. big plus was the height adjustment. Dropped my car perfectly, also allows you to "rake" the height if you want that look. NOTE: USE FACTORY BUMP STOPS. DO NOT REMOVE THEM!
Coilovers: GREAT SETUP. Running it on my 4 dr GSR. Has a preload on the spring to decrease that nasty bounce you usually get. Stiff ride, yet bearable. Can SLAM the car or drop it nicely.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
check out my drop w/ H&R Sports:
And I can tell you from experience from my friend's Civic that Race springs on Tokico HP (blue) shocks is a horrible combination. Those springs wore out those shocks pretty quick, and ride quality was just terrible.</TD></TR></TABLE>
hey patrick isn't your rear on the lowest of the koni perches? so the h&r sports should be a little higher. I dont know but if thats a 3 inch drop i don't know how low mine is. Looks just about right to me with a little sagging.
check out my drop w/ H&R Sports:
And I can tell you from experience from my friend's Civic that Race springs on Tokico HP (blue) shocks is a horrible combination. Those springs wore out those shocks pretty quick, and ride quality was just terrible.</TD></TR></TABLE>
hey patrick isn't your rear on the lowest of the koni perches? so the h&r sports should be a little higher. I dont know but if thats a 3 inch drop i don't know how low mine is. Looks just about right to me with a little sagging.
Gotta say, I'm on H&R Sports with Koni Yellows, apart from wanting a little more Stiff a spring rate, I can't complain. My drop looks similar to Skunk2nr, not patrick94GSR. Also note: I'm on the "stock" perches...
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hey patrick isn't your rear on the lowest of the koni perches? so the h&r sports should be a little higher. I dont know but if thats a 3 inch drop i don't know how low mine is. Looks just about right to me with a little sagging. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes I put the back on the lowest setting because on the middle setting the back had more gap than the front and I didn't like it.
But still, look how low the front of my car is, that's on the TOP perch in front. And yes it is a 3" drop, going by a stock GS-R that I compared to, and also going by the measurements on the diagrams shown in the Helms manual.
hey patrick isn't your rear on the lowest of the koni perches? so the h&r sports should be a little higher. I dont know but if thats a 3 inch drop i don't know how low mine is. Looks just about right to me with a little sagging. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes I put the back on the lowest setting because on the middle setting the back had more gap than the front and I didn't like it.
But still, look how low the front of my car is, that's on the TOP perch in front. And yes it is a 3" drop, going by a stock GS-R that I compared to, and also going by the measurements on the diagrams shown in the Helms manual.
H&R Race on stockies...gonna be getting some AGX's soon.
Thats a pretty old picture, I threw on the ambers back on instead of the clears.
i've got the h&r race with kyb-agx's, there alittle stiff, but with the setup and low pro's you've gotta expect that, i don't scrape on anything except a steep driveway but that can be avoided if you take it right. . . i truely have no complaints, i love em!
I have both H&R Race and Sport springs. The Race springs are on the car with Tokico Illuminas on settings 2/5 front and 3/5 rear. It rides awesome, firm but never bouncey.

My H&R Sport springs are sitting in a box in my room, I planned on running them with stock shocks since the spring rates are fairly low. I'd match them up with a Tokico HP or KYB AGX strut.
Modified by Nihilation at 6:36 PM 1/14/2004

My H&R Sport springs are sitting in a box in my room, I planned on running them with stock shocks since the spring rates are fairly low. I'd match them up with a Tokico HP or KYB AGX strut.
Modified by Nihilation at 6:36 PM 1/14/2004
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nihilation »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have both H&R Race and Sport springs. The Race springs are on the car with Tokico Illuminas on settings 2/5 front and 3/5 rear. It rides awesome, firm but never bouncey.

Modified by Nihilation at 6:36 PM 1/14/2004</TD></TR></TABLE>
I have the same set up but my ride sucks , I am gonna change my setting to 2/5 in the front and 3/5 in rear and see what happens. Also when you look at my car you easily see the chamber issue and yours doesnt seem to have any..

Modified by Nihilation at 6:36 PM 1/14/2004</TD></TR></TABLE>
I have the same set up but my ride sucks , I am gonna change my setting to 2/5 in the front and 3/5 in rear and see what happens. Also when you look at my car you easily see the chamber issue and yours doesnt seem to have any..
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Also when you look at my car you easily see the chamber issue and yours doesnt seem to have any..</TD></TR></TABLE>
how can you tell his doesn't have any camber issues since the pic is a side shot?
Also when you look at my car you easily see the chamber issue and yours doesnt seem to have any..</TD></TR></TABLE>
how can you tell his doesn't have any camber issues since the pic is a side shot?
because his doesnt seem to have any positive or negative camber and when you look at mine from the same angle you can notice it <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
how can you tell his doesn't have any camber issues since the pic is a side shot?</TD></TR></TABLE>
how can you tell his doesn't have any camber issues since the pic is a side shot?</TD></TR></TABLE>






