After driving around for several days, a few things really stand out.

1. The car steers more neutral now, even more like a rear driver

2. The front end feels much more planted in turns and the feedback thru the wheel is enhanced. Even going over uneven pavement the car doesn't exhibit any twitchiness. You can apply power in the turns much sooner as the tires are planted for better traction

3. As silly as it sounds, the car actually accelerates easier and maintains speed with less throttle. This last tank of gas I got 2 more MPG and didn't do anything other than install the kit. I think this is because the suspension is being held in a more precise manner, preventing the flex that allows the toe to change as speed is increased. Increased toe out will create extra tire friction. If the toe is maintained to reduce that friction gas mileage should increase

4. Acceleration squat (front end rising under acceleration) and front end dive under braking have been noticeably reduced, resulting in a much more balanced condition when driving fast.

Finally, the best way I can describe the steering is to compare it to my 87 RX 7 Turbo car. Steering input on the RX translates into car movement, something the Teg was lacking, but now wheel movement means car reaction. It takes a couple of days to get used to it, but it sure is nice. No more turning the wheel and waiting for the chassis to catch up.

If you know someone who has this, drive their car, you'll be glad you did.

 

Pardon my ignorance, what is a Z10 kit?

Peace

 

From Z10Engineering's website:

Bolt-On Traction Uses Factory Bolt Holes
Completely Eliminate Wheel-hop
Launch Harder, Lower 60’ times
Retains Complete Suspension Travel—No Binding
CNC Machined Components, TIG Welded Crossmember
Retains Factory Ground Clearance
Allows for Caster Adjustment
Suitable for both Road Race and Drag Race Applications

 

Thanks HX

 

man, i want one...how much did you pay Brian?

 

I got the same kit, wait until you get them on on a drag strip. It doesn't feel as squirrely from hard launches or traction lost.

Probably the only gripe, I have about them is that they replace the tow hooks, so I don't know how I am going to hook the car up to a dyno ?

 

OK OK!!! I'm convinced now. I want one. Too any good things being said about it.

 

'sigh' just ANOTHER part thats tucked away in my "gotta have list"
wheel hop suks royal goose nutz on hybrids...

 

Well I actually haven't paid anything for it yet I put it on to do some R&D for z10 due to an interference with my ITR spec brake upgrade kit.

I think retail is $420...I'll be carrying them starting next week, email me for good price.

 

brian this is cj, any idea if they look like they would cause interference with the wilwood calipers?

 

No clearance concerns with the Wilwoods. The only reason the bracket hits the larger caliper is because the ITR caliper is wider and the bolt happens to be on the same plane as the bracket...

 

what is their website name?

 

Great I hope they will be able to finish the DA front members soon need to buy one

 

fastbrakes, I didnt find your other post so here are those pics!

 

http://www.z10eng.com

 

If this is true then you've sold me, I can't stand that " twitchiness" that occurs under mild to hard cornering. And what needs to be done to remedy the clearance problems with the R calipers, I picking up a set this weekend to go with your 11" 2-piece rotors (may spring from the Stoptechs , if the budget allows ) . I'll email you tomorrow.

 

whats the website addy? and when u ordered from them did u just call them up? how long did it take to arrive?

thanks
darren

 

Now thats a close fit....Someone told me some rubbing can occur on hard turns?

 

I made the slots in the brackets long enough to clear at full lock both ways on my car. Unless there is some serious deflection of the wheel or knuckle I wouldn't expect any interference problems. I'm going to flog the car around some serious corners this weekend and I'll see if anything rubs.

I just love the way the car accelerates under power now, nothing but smooth clean pulling even around corners. Quite different from the stock feel.

 

Very much, keep me posted... this is good news!!!

 

Rubbing may in very rare situations occur, usually when a wheel of improper offset is used.

Even in the event that a wheel with the improper offset is used, rubbing will *only* occur at full lock. If someone is able to turn so hard that it necessitates hitting full lock on your steering wheel... then thats some crazy driving.

Realistically, if you run the proper wheels, you should not have any interference problems at all.

-geoff

 

I see.

Yah i heard it was only on full lock....and the only time i do full lock turns are u-turns......maybe if i had some oversteer that may change

thanks

*another component of my suspension list*

 

ha geoff its a small world :9 (sam from phoenix w/ pos gsr )

 

uh..... just curious..... why are you waiting for the DA z10 kit? i'm fairly sure that that z10 kit is pretty much the same thing the DA comes with stock......

i know on my DA, there is the front x-member with some rods connected to the lower control arms. isn't that pretty much what the z10 kit is? i know the newer integras and the newer civics don't have it, but my DA does......

so.... would someone like explain what's the difference? other than better material......???

 

I need the front memeber so I can have more clearance with the Hi-Tech header that I am running and also I want the caster adjustment feature also